Westworld : Humans can't be hurt, then they can?

They start out saying they can't be hurt. The man in black gets shot numerous times without flinching. Then the other human is knocked flat and bruised by a bullet. Later his boss is nearly strangled.

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The man in black gets shot numerous times without flinching. Then the other human is knocked flat and bruised by a bullet.

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The 'other human' is the same person as the man in black; his story happens 30 years in the past after visiting the park every year for 3 decades he's now used to the bullets & doesn't flinch when they hit him.

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Later his boss is nearly strangled.

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Nearly.


Several times, it is specified onscreen that the guests can't be KILLED. They can be hurt, tho.


Sometimes fires don't go out when you're done playin' with them.

you must have missed the part towards the end of episode 10 when Teddy comes in guns blazing to recuse Delores and knocks down Ed Harris William with a couple of bullets.

also why was the horse not programmed to be smart enough to know that running away would strangle ed harris as he had the noose tied around his neck? :P

i wondered about the horse too. i had thought maybe it would only move enough to make him nervous, but the horse did in fact go to run so who knows.

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Teddy's gun got a bit altered. Had more stopping power. Remember how perplexed he was as he gunned down Grizzly in Sweetwater? He looks at his gun like "wut?"
The horse might have been reprogrammed by our mysterious hacker. All animals are hosts too.

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The horse might have been reprogrammed by our mysterious hacker. All animals are hosts too.

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Might. But the show does not tell that. The whole concept of rules should have been better thought through, finding hard reasons why guests cannot shoot guests, host cannot shoot guests and maybe how justice is enforced in the park when guests start hurting each other. But the show leaves the game play as some undefined area, using it in a deus ex machina way, depending on what is needed at the moment. Which feels a bit lame.

Anyway, the overseers knows what happens. Charlotte did appear as MiB was about to be hanged. In any case he wouldve been saved. But MiB made it also clear he did not want to be interrupted. Real risk was what he was there for..as he was never going back.

Interstellar - Pruit Igoe and Prophecies

I was wondering about the animals as well, although they did not make it a thing in the movies either.

It would be all too easy to be a "fly on the wall", with all those hosts around, people only look at humanoids as a threat, but who knows, your dog or horse has been betraying you the whole time, it would add a layer of paranoia, but i like it as it is too.

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They can be hurt, but not actually injured. That is probably even more true in the areas where children are allowed.

But that's not really true because as mentioned before the horse bolted while the noose was around man in black. It really is just a matter that is best left alone and I don't say that often.

By then the reprogramming of the hosts had already started. Elsie told Bernard someone had made some major alterations in their programming.

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Then the other human [William] is knocked flat and bruised by a bullet. Later his boss [Logan] is nearly strangled.

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The bullets give enough of a sting to make most Guests want to avoid being on the receiving end. Logan has many deviant fetishes, as you probably already have seen. The park is always happy to do whatever it can to please their Guests, especially when they're VIP like Logan, whose family owns a small investment in the park (as revealed in episode 2).

i think the effectivness of the bullets on guests had changed/ evolved during the park's history. That might explain why billy gets knocked down whilst bullets bounce off the man in black, as shown just before he drags delores into the barn.

there is a 30 year time difference between those events.

the woman robot that woke up changed the level of park security at the end.
and I guess she changed the rules of theme park as a result robots could fight back.
and the man in black could be shot.

They need to be reprogammed, that's all, and then they can kill humans.

Except Teddy tried, but couldn't kill the Man in Black.

They need weapons that are diifferent and can kill humans. But how hard would that be for Ford to achieve?

Remember the Board unanomously voted him out. So his personal revenge waa to kill all of them.

It is explained in one of the earlier episodes that the 'central' town we see is where the guests/newcomers can get a feel of the place and experiment until they're ready for something more adventurous. I remember someone saying that the further one radiates towards the outer reaches of the park, the more vivid, intense, brutal the experience becomes
The guests, knowing this, are prepared for the risks. By design, at least, the guests can be hurt but not killed or permanently injured.
That's the way I understood it, anyway.

honestly the show is a bit of a mess with some of the trains of logic

A) what magically makes the bullets/guns different that the robots shoot than the ones that the humans shoot? the humans are shown repeatedly taking the robots guns and them operating perfectly normal, except suddenly magically when a robot shoots a human the bullets act like pellets. Makes no sense (it would if the humans only deliberately ever used one gun, but that's not the case)

also inconsistent in terms of sometimes the robots shooting the humans and it being like pellets, and then the next moment them just not being able to aim and fire at a human whatsoever.

B) The humans are entirely capable of being killed. They are beaten up, tied up, left in situations where they could be hung to death- etc. There is no consistency in terms of the humans genuinely being watched or being safe

the haywire wood chipping guy with the GPS coordinates is an example of this- the robots are fully capable of damaging the humans physically (deliberately or accidentally). In fact the robots are repeatedly shown using knives and axes- they could easily damage the guests. Not to mention there seems to be no proticol necessarily stopping the guests from damaging one another (all it would take is one of them getting mega into their role). For that matter the Ed Harris character, when younger, seems to have possibly sent his brother in law off to his death by leaving him wandering in Westworld on a horse.

The show doesn't explain a lot of these things and I think its most likely because they're explainable and on some level plot holes. The show requires the robots to be SOME level of threat to the guests at times, but also wants to maintain the allusion that people would visit the park because its supposedly insanely safe. Its a bit of a conundrum there


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The website had a little game where you're tested on responses to a given situation, and when it came to a gunfight it mentions that some sort of bullet velocity protocol is enabled whenever a gun is aimed at a human. Also, the original movie said that the guns had safety interlocks wired to IR sensors so they couldn't fire when aimed at a living person.

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The website said they're some sort of bullet velocity protocol in effect that slows ordnance down whenever a gun is fired at a human, which was clearly disengaged in the season finale.

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