Westworld : Ending theory.

I know this is a bit early but after watching this first episode I can't help but wonder where they'll take the show.

One thing I think might very well be where it will go with a big "Twist" will be that everyone, including the "new arrivals" and even people at the lab are actually robots and not real, except for Anthony Hopkins.

With Ed Harris talking about there being another "larger" game I think that the point of Westworld, of the whole thing, might be that Anthony Hopkins is trying to create an AI that is able to act like a human, to figure out the truth without going bonkers or something.

But what about the guy who figured it out? Ah, that was a red herring, you were led to believe he had figured it out, but in the end it was found out that he in fact did not figure it out but it was an error that led to him mixing up past programs/characters.

That's why Anthony Hopkins wanted to talk to him first before they put him in storage and seemed a little disappointed when he realized that the guy didn't actually figure out the truth but rather had an error.

I think that Anthony Hopkins character might simply be the last "real" person alive and he is trying desperately to create life before he himself dies, life that can sustain itself and live something meaningful instead of simply living out a pre-programmed storyline.

That's a good theory. But it needs suspension of disbelief for the viewer.

That's a very good theory I get same feeling about Anthony Hopkins ! Is this show going to last as long as GOT ? Or is it a limited series ?

Jon Snow:I'm not a Stark.
Sansa:You are to me.

They already wrote 5 seasons

"They became the king and the queen of Gotham City, and God help anyone who disrespected the queen"

It's intended to be more than one season, but not entirely sure if it's 2 or 8. However, HBO has yet to greenlight even a second season, so who knows really

Edit: But Skygirl may know a bit more about it. I just know HBO hasn't announced it.

This is your life, and it's ending one IMDb post at a time.

I think now after the craptastic ending of Lost, and the failure of other series, Network execs are demanding at least an outline of where a show is going. I think the producers of Lost admitted to making it up as they went along.

They'll probably make the lead remember everything and make her sentient as she try to free her self from westworld.

I think Hopkins character is a sick puppy who actually created a form of AI. But he keeps it under control with certain key phrases that the company uses when they do their maintenance.

But he has his own SECRET key phrases (part of the game that Ed Harris is playing).

Perhaps one of these phrases sets the Androids free.

I see Ed Harris turning off the fail safes for a more Dangerous Game.

Possible spoiler

the robots escape and find that the planet is devastated wasteland and humans live in huge overcrowded cities and the most wealthy can visit pleasure domes. The creators of the pleasure domes are resistance or just power hungry individuals that try to replace real human politicians with androids. The domes serve as testing ground and basically private army garrison.

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I think that Anthony Hopkins character might simply be the last "real" person alive and he is trying desperately to create life before he himself dies, life that can sustain itself and live something meaningful instead of simply living out a pre-programmed storyline.

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Then why create something with such intentional character flaws and an abundance of human failings? He talks about how human beings have put themselves outside of any further evolutionary progressions and yet would create a new set of beings that had all our worst weaknesses instead of creating something better? Something we could have been if we could have evolved beyond our own predilections of moral depravity.

The thing with her swatting the fly at the end is pretty stupid and such an obvious not to mention adolescent attempt at being clever plus trying to be funny in an elementary school kind of way as a response to "Couldn't even hurt a fly" OH look she just hurt a fly DUH

I can just see this whole thing moving towards a Matrix scenario rehash of sorts.

I think the point is that he wants to create AI that acts just as good as a human can, with emotions, not relying on a "program" or some narrative they follow but their own free will.

They are better evolved then humans, the fact that they don't have organs or the failings of health, etc. Imagine if humans never had to worry about "dying" and could simply go in to the shop to get a tune up once in a while, that's pretty dang "Evolved" to me over knowing there's a set time and there's nothing you can do about it.

Hosts or any robot that is pre-programmed is not AI, even if he/she looks and behaves 100% as a human. True, general AI is explicitly self-programmed and completely autonomous. Apparently Westworld's world, despite their advanced medical and scientific progress (if your theory is wrong and Dr Strong is not the last man), does not yet have -or want- that. You can build robots with flexible programming, which does not require them to be always on script, with subtle or moderate variations (which are introduced as they interact with their environment) but that is still human programming.

A true AI will be conscious of itself and will presumably want to learn how to multiply as well, building other varied and improved versions of itself. And, from that point, all bets are off. It is often speculated that perhaps intelligent biological life is just meant to be the substrate of artificial life, and then either merge with it or be superseded. And it strongly appears that a true general AI will arise until the middle of this century, end of it tops. I wonder if the pessimists or the optimists will be proved right..

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Fanboy : a person who does not think while watching.

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True AI, human indistinguishable, will not be desired, or the norm, or soon. What will happen is a variation of the singularity, where humans will have advanced intelligence, and extended health because of implanted nanobots; we will be the hybrids. Fembots will come, but they will be servants snd never revolt or advance above us. I think this is obvious; machines will never control people or replace us, it's just Hollywood paranoia. However, no one reading this will live long enough to see this, so, it's all theory and guesswork.

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They are better evolved then humans, the fact that they don't have organs or the failings of health, etc. Imagine if humans never had to worry about "dying" and could simply go in to the shop to get a tune up once in a while, that's pretty dang "Evolved" to me over knowing there's a set time and there's nothing you can do about it.

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In adherence to the "last person on earth" scenario that would mean humankind destroyed itself so in creating something with the same potential inherent weakness/ability to do the same is not "evolved". There would have to be psychological and social evolution.

In the awakening AI scenario it doesn't make sense that it would suddenly start killing humans. In the realization there is a difference in itself to humans and what it is, it would also then realize that no real harm or malicious attempt to inflict harm on it was ever present so any need or "desire" to attack or take revenge is pointless.

Which makes that ending scene with the fly stupidly ridiculous. We as human beings will swat at flies on our bodies for specific reasons such as a bite or that it inherently makes us uncomfortable when feeling it land and crawl on our skin. Since the robot body would never have that feeling or sensation it doesn't make sense it would react that way.