Shailene Woodley : Why is she the lead in divergent and the fault in our stars?

Why is she the lead in divergent and the fault in our stars?

Hello, my apologies to any fan of hers reading this and finding it offensive. I have never seen her in anything else other than these two movies. I am in no way trying to be mean to her on a personal level but merely curious.

However, I don't understand how she got chosen as the lead for these two movies. First of all, she is not that pretty. Not as in ugly for a regular person but as an actress her looks are just average. Then her acting is tasteless as water and I don't find her spectacularly talented either. She does her job but you could just switch her with a supporting actress (for ex if Christina's actress act as Beatrice and she becomes Christina instead) and it won't affect my view of the film overall. So I am just WONDERING, how the hell did she get to be the lead for two best-selling-novel-turned-into-movies? Does she have famous/rich parents, is it just luck or are we just running out of talented young artists?

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Those are not her best movies. Maybe you should watch Spectacular Now and then make up your mind.

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cause shes really pretty and a good actress and talent etc.

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I thought she was pretty until I saw Divergent. Boy, what an ugly girl she is. No charisma, no charm, nothing. I was happy when they cut her part from TASM2, but after seeing the movie, she was probably happier than I was.

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Wait till you see Insurgent... You'll prolly be embarrassed by your accuracy of her acting "ability".

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I'm definitely happy Jennifer Lawrence is more popular than her. But at least Shailene is a better actor than Kristen Stewart. Actually I think Shailene and Kristen should have swapped characters, how old was the former when Twilight was being made. Or just say fu--it and have Jennifer Lawrence be Katnis, Bella, and Tris.

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I actually think she was the best part of The Descendants. Clooney did a lot of scenery chewing in it, IMO, and her scenes usually brought it back around for me.

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Ok... I'm sorry, but what the f--k?! "not as in ugly for a regular person but as an actress her looks are just average" a 2000 re you kidding me right now?! That "point" is just... I seriously have no words for that. Well I do, but they aren't appropriate.

And I like her acting, I mean with her role in American Teen Life or whatever it's called yeah she got pegged with the ABC gene, but she's trying to get out of that like Disney stars that do the same thing. She has the talent to pull them off I think she's just a little more subtle hah. I haven't seen Fault In Our Stars, don't really plan to either, but I just watched Divergent and she did a fine job. Kind of like in that movie, she's underestimated. But that's your opinion on her acting, if you don't like her then don't watch the movies she stars in.

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if you don't like her then don't watch the movies she stars in.

i agree

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That's bollocks. A person can give a legitimate opinion about an actress' abilities without having to avoid the movies they are in for the sake of their fans.

For the record, I have seen Shailene in The Secret Life of an American Teenager and she was terrible, and from what I've seen of the Divergent and The Fault in Our Stars trailers, she hasn't gained any charisma since then. In my opinion.


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if you don't like her then don't watch the movies she stars in.


I understand how you feel but he did try to explain that he is just confused.

I kind of was not hugely impressed in the beginning of Divergent but as it went on she became prettier. I think that was the intent. She was supposed to be plain in the beginning. She plays plain really well.

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1.) Beauty truly is in the eye of the beholder. Some may find a particular person gorgeous while another thinks that they are nothing. Shailene as Tris makes sense even though she is not as small. Actors and actresses are not all supposed to conform to the ideal beauty. Sometimes it has to do with their part. But Shailene fits the part of Tris through and through.

2.) Actors and actresses do what they are told to do. They act how they are directed. They have no say really in what makes the final cut. They just act.

3.) Shailene is actually a great actress. I first saw her in True Life of An American Teenager. She was beautiful, but her acting was stale. BUT... all of the others were stale too. I notice that with the same writers. The actors talk hurriedly and without emotion.

4.) If you read the Divergent series and TFIOS then you would see how Shai truy brings those characters to life. I don't normally cry... but she brought tears to my eyes with both parts.

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I think ashley judd really sells it as her mom in divergent

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Why does every starring woman have to be a super sexy model who weighs less than 100 pounds? I think Shailene is very pretty, and she's a talented actress. I like that she's not ultra thin; she's a realistic role model for girls, as far as appearances go. She's not ugly AT ALL, maybe a bit plain. But there's nothing wrong with that. I personally go for natural women who don't feel the need to diet excessively and wear tons of makeup. You comments make you appear really shallow.


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lol first me thinks the thread starter meant shes do-able but not hot/pretty. And i agree , shes nothing great to look at , she looks like the male 16d0 counter-part in a lesbian relationship.


and for the poeple trying to act like the topic starter is shallow or what ever , your picking a fight with the wrong person . Its a fact that hollywood is shallow, hes asking since her acting is not above avg. , what makes her stand out from the vast number of young women actresses?

And i again i agree with him it was the whole reason i went to this page i saw her in a interview and thought the same thing the thread starter thought.


And for why i think shes getting big roles? For the same reason the twilight series made so much money. Her movies are targeted for pre-teen/teen girls. I would be willing to bet the male roles in her movies are good looking guys.



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Dude your attitude clearly illustrates that you're more familiar with your hand than you are with real women.

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lol...took the words right out of my mouth. I think she is "girl next door" beautiful. So what if she doesn't have the classic movie star looks. She's more like JLaw pretty. Not a damn thing wrong with that.

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I am a girl and I agree with him. In the land of Hollywood she is not as hot or beautiful or do-able - whatever you want to call it - as the typical "starlet". However, I do believe it doesn't matter. Not everyone has to be perfect.

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I've only seen her in Divergent and I too seem to miss whatever it is that makes her a hot property. Further, I found her bad nose job extremely distracting and was more focused on that than the film.

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I don't think she's hit her stride yet, but I definitely think she has the chops. Divergent was ok for the type of movie it was and she did ok. She did fine in Fault in a more dramatic role though and made it feel real. I definitely disagree on her being unattractive though - I think she's fine as hell.

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We can agree to disagree on anyone's acting because unless actors are terrible, it's really just a question of perspective between finding someone good or just ok.
But what the *beep* should we care if she's "pretty" (even if there was objective criteria for such a vapid concept) and why the *beep* should it factor into her getting roles or not?

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You don't get the lead in a coveted movie because you have rich parents (there are Oscar winning A listers that have been turned down for roles) and being the child of a famous person often works against an actor (it would be hard to get the studio/director/media to know if they like you or your connection).

It's not like she suddenly hit it big. She's been in the business for most of her life. In the early 2000s she played young Kaitlin in season one of The OC and young Jordan on Crossing Jordan.

Hazel in The Fault in our Stars isn't supposed to be a knockout. She's supposed to be average looking, maybe even slightly below average since the character is battling a deadly disease and despite how many tv shows/movies portray that, it doesn't make you look like a supermodel.

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Some people do indeed get roles due to the status of their parents. Nepotism exists in every industry, including film. Look at Dakota Johnson or the Mara sisters. Or Dallas Howard. Sure, they're okay actors, but there is no question they got a leg up in the business because of their families.

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Those are easily her two worst films.

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I think she is fairly good-looking, though she definitely doesn't have super star
good-looks.

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Maybe she is banging for parts like Kristen Stewart. She doesn't seem to have any connected parents or Jew connections. So it seems like she just got lucky.







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Shailene, while you are not my favorite person in the world, I will stand up for you.
You think she's bad? Have you seen Paris Hilton? She can't act her way out of a paper bag.
OP, if you're so holy, post us a link to a video of you acting, and we can critique your face.

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I just caught "The Fault if Our Stars" on DVD. Before the film, there were all those previews DVDs have, an 16d0 d one was for "If I Stay," which starred Chloë Grace Moretz, who I like well enough.

While watching the film, I found Woodley's performance quite moving and, probably because I'd just seen her in the previews, thought of Moretz in the role, and I just couldn't see it. Woodley really owned the role for me. I thought she did a fantastic job and can't really think of anyone who could have done it better.

(Btw, I'm not bashing Moretz here. I'm thinking that we haven't seen the best of her yet, and it's not like she's bad now, but when competing for roles against Woodley and Lawrence, she needs to step it up a little.)

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I agree. Woodley isn't quite Lawrence in Divergent, but after Fault in Our Stars I'm expecting more - what's the word I want here - from her in Insurgent.

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That was quite a condescending post towards young Shailene there OP? Stating it like that sounds as is she has no qualities what so ever.

I'm guessing she was hired because she was talented? In the case Fault in Our Stars she was really commuted to the role and even agreed to cut her hair for it. That commitment and dedication is probably why they chose her.

Plus she was also a fan of the book and that what they wanted for the film: People who read and loved the book.

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What the *beep*?

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Did you read the books? She fits the description of the character in the books very well. I'm so tired of Hollywood being a sex appeal place instead of a talent place. Who would you rather have casted instead? And I hope to god you don't say Meghan Fox or Kate Upton.

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Since when was the lead in The Fault in Our Stars supposed to be a great beauty? She's dying of an incurable disease!

Maybe if people read books more instead of just relying on the Hollywood adaptations...

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Excuse me for being rude but Shai is a wonderfully talented actress and she brings both books to life. She has amazing character and is gorgeous so I am sorry but I don't see where you are coming from.

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I have not seen Divergent yet,but I thought she was great in Fault in our stars












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Re: Why is she the lead in divergent and the fault in our stars?

It's because she can open her eyes widely. That is the only thing I see her doing. When I watched Divergence all I could do was think about how great Jennifer Lawrence would have been in that part. I was hoping they would change her for "Insurgence". They didn't.

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If you haven't seen her in The Descendants then don't say anything, she is beautiful and should have been nominated for an oscar for that peformance. Go watch Transformers 3 if you want to see models act.

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First of all, she is not that pretty. Not as in ugly for a regular person but as an actress her looks are just average.


While Shaileen may not be "Hollywood pretty," she's "model pretty." Think about it. Most models look strange, almost alien-like because of their strong features that are not classically beautiful, but they are absolutely gorgeous in photo shoots and on the runway or red c b68 arpet. Shaileen is exactly the same way. For example, look at the May 9, 2014 Entertainment Weekly Cover Story about TFiOS. BTW...many "Hollywood pretty" women are actually quite average looking with little/no makeup.

Also, both characters were written (in their respective books) to be unconventionally beautiful because of their inner spirits. In fact, in the Divergent book (not the film), Will's mother makes fun of Tris' looks and Tris constantly worries about not being "pretty." I think the stories wouldn't have been as convincing if the main character had been "Hollywood pretty."


Then her acting is tasteless as water and I don't find her spectacularly talented either.


Everyone is entitled to a opinion. But, apparently some people disagree since she had to audition for these roles. In fact, the director for TFiOS didn't want her UNTIL she auditioned. I'm not a particular fan, but I will say that her emoting skills are very impressive.

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I feel compelled to post. I am critical as anyone when it comes to looks, body type, etc. I can barely watch Patricia Arquette get so PORKY in her new CSI role. THAT is unacceptable to me a viewer. It is simply way too distracting. And the wardrobe folks think that black and black jackets is going to fool the viewers in to hide her porkiness. NOT!

But Shai has got that special something that I find overwhelmingly appealing. Her stage presence transcends any beauty she may be lacking.
I have taken a really close look at her and decided that she IS star quality in looks as well as acting ability. Have you seen any red carpet pictures of her? Pretty darn impressive.

She tends to be have a bit more padding than a lot of lean female action stars, but she is convincing as being strong and most capable of any kind of fighting/running and ass kicking. Yes, I can see that they do use stunt doubles for her in some sequences. She is no Black Belt, but definitely believable of kicking anyone's ass.

I love long hair, but I like her better with short hair/page boy cut for some reason. Her range is subtle...very subtle. Its not dead pan or limited. Its controlled and calculated I believe. She has intelligence/vulnerability/ and pathos all happening in her eyes. That is the best part of her.

She seems much slimmer AFTER filming is done and she is on the red carpet. IMO, she is pretty hot. I mean LOOK at the photos and tell me she is not.

I hate to watch chunky actresses. She is not chunky, just padded with an obviously strong layer of muscle underneath.
She is only 23 and still has a tiny bit of puppy fat. I see female actresses who age and really pour on the gym time and nutrition and get BETTER looking with age. She might just be one of those.
But I am happy enough just as she is.

I liked her a LOT in Fault of Our Stars...so did a TON of critics. She got much accolades for that role. She did loose some lbs for that role.

She has two more sequels in the bag, plus an Oliver Stone thriller. In 3 years she should be an A list actress assuming she has all hit movies.
I expect to see her pick up the slack and get even more leaner and more physical by age 25 or 26.
If she doesnt, I will still go to see her movies.

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One word for you: P.O.P.U.L.A.R.I.T.Y.

There is no need to be pretty or talented nowadays; just have a leading role in a mainstream film and you're all good.
Instead of coming here and asking silly questions, stop watching movies starring Woodley, Stewart and Lawrence, and maybe they'll go away.

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Why would Jennifer Lawrence need to go away ? She's talented ! It's because their popular they get so much hate get over it.

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I do not enjoy some of Shailene's wooden acting either, but her eye socket that is higher up on her face drives me nuts.

It's similar to Shannen Doherty's "Picasso" eye issue. It makes them "real" people of course, and director's try to minimize the effect by using certain angles and hairstyles, but I find it distracting on film nonetheless.



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Why does she have to be the pretties 2000 t girl in the book? There are many male actors in lead roles who aren't even remotely "attractive" and so why should this not apply to women also? And last but not least "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" I'd rather watch character actresses any day before I watch a man or woman chosen solely because of their look! BORRRRRRRING

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I agree I think she's a very bland actress. She is quite memorable to me though, as I never really understood what anyone meant when they said someone had a "slappable face" until I watched her in Divergent,

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I disagree, I don't think she is average for an actress, I think she is average for a normal person and ugly for an actress.
The majority of people here claiming they find her to be pretty are female, either insecure about their own looks, or find petty on the ugly girl

in all honesty, her current IMDB photo she looks really good, but that picture is heavily photoshopped, just compare it to the other pictures of her

as to her acting talent, I think it's ok, not bad, but not great either.

why she got these roles? probably because the target audience is teenage girls and they wouldn't mind seeing a not so pretty girl take the lead in a movie.

I also have to state that to me looks are not too important for a role, it is important for the business, but not for me personally, but thats just how it works

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