Politics : Liberals learned nothing from this election

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Seems that you've chosen Elizabeth Warren to be your leader,

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It's pretty obvious.

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You have no one else at this point.

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Watch the "news."

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but yes, as of right now, she's considered the front runner for the Dems to run in 2020.

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Bernie is a thousand years old and will be a mummy by the time 2020 gets here.

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they are both not truly black

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In calling Obama the "first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," the implication was that the black people who are regularly seen by whites or at least those who aspire to the highest office in the land are none of these things. But give Biden credit at least he acknowledged Obama's identity.

For years pundits excoriated young black kids for attacking other smart successful black kids by questioning their blackness. But this is suddenly permissible for presidential candidates. Beinart's good black/bad black dynamic is the sort of armchair logic that comes from not spending much time around actual black people.

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Before he was elected as President, Senator Barack Obama, was criticized in 2007 as "acting white" by Jesse Jackson in relation to a specific case involving blacks.[15] Also before Obama's election, Ralph Nader, a longtime activist, in 2008 characterized the senator as "talking white".[16] However, one must note that Obama is also a Mixed-race American, with a White/European mother and Kenyan father; he also has Cherokee descent. Kenyans are a different ethnic group than the various groups modern day African Americans are descended from.

Also, note that "talking white" is a form of a dialect. Who President Obama is speaking with may determine the dialect he chooses to use.

Obama's presidential victory in the 2008 election and public image prompted a public discussion about whether he would shift the ground of critics of 'acting white.' Commentators John McWhorter and Stephen J. Dubner have said that it might.[5][6] Yahanna of the Israelite School of Universal Practical Knowledge, described by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a black supremacist sect, did not consider Obama to be black but "African of white descent" and advised African Americans not to vote for him.[17]

Obama strongly criticized the idea that achievement was limited to "acting white" in his keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention. He said that "children cant achieve unless we raise their expectations and turn off the television sets and eradicate the slander that says a black youth with a book is acting white.[1]


Seattle Seahawks football player Russell Wilson came under fire in 2014 when anonymous sources alleged that the feeling in the Seahawks locker room was that Wilson lacked "blackness." CBS Sports cited this conflict as a possible reason for the trading of star player Percy Harvin from the Seahawks to the New York Jets.[18]

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Before he was elected as President, Senator Barack Obama, was criticized in 2007 as "acting white" by Jesse Jackson in relation to a specific case involving blacks.[15] Also before Obama's election, Ralph Nader, a longtime activist, in 2008 characterized the senator as "talking white".[16] However, one must note that Obama is also a Mixed-race American, with a White/European mother and Kenyan father; he also has Cherokee descent. Kenyans are a different ethnic group than the various groups modern day African Americans are descended from.

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Yahanna of the Israelite School of Universal Practical Knowledge, described by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a black supremacist sect, did not consider Obama to be black but "African of white descent" and advised African Americans not to vote for him.

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Seattle Seahawks football player Russell Wilson came under fire in 2014 when anonymous sources alleged that the feeling in the Seahawks locker room was that Wilson lacked "blackness." CBS Sports cited this conflict as a possible reason for the trading of star player Percy Harvin from the Seahawks to the New York Jets.

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Jets receiver Percy Harvin has had rocky times at the University of Florida, at Minnesota, and ultimately at Seattle. So will his experiences change his behavior/approach in New York?

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'Acting White' Remains a Barrier for Black Education.http://reason.com/archives/2014/10/08/acting-white-remains-a-barrier-for-black

Why do you want to deny this?

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You're going to make an excuse for every piece of evidence I show you?

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Barack Obama is a successful and educated black man who was subjected to this and so was I.

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You seem to be too dense to get this point after it was shown to you over and over again.

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by Black_Lies_Matter
» 1 day ago (Sun Feb 12 2017 10:34:20) Flag | Reply |
IMDb member since April 2011
I fully agree. I think it's going to be that Kamala Harris idiot, or Corey Booker. Like Obama, they are both not truly black, too. That's what the Democrats are looking for.

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I'm sorry Jpat, you may well be correct in what you've argued on the subjectbut the fact does remain that these images work.

The black people who you insist are slave-minded and race pimps are one of the most valuable voting blocks in politicsbecause they are not swayed by reason or a broader world view. They are easily motivated and reactionarywhich is extremely useful in governments that bank on pandering.

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It's like psychics and fortune tellers, science can label them all frauds, every last one. But tens of thousands of such businesses survive serving hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people. It's easy to say it's because people are stupid, but far from a sufficient explanation for the phenomenon.

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Not necessarily. They are a minority of the "black community". Many blacks that know better, vote Democrat simply because they don't want to vote on the side of people that say some of the horribly racist sh!t you hear on this board.

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How do you think it feels, as a black man to be in an argument on the same side as someone that just called "black people inferior, and should be shipped back to Africa"?

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Unfortunately people are making this a left right thing, when it's really a right wrong thing.

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I'm just blown away how movies, and the media portray the "black community" It's like their only loop is of the young and dumb.

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So long as the desired result it obtained.

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I imagine it sucks. It's not much fun to be white and hear people talk like that either. I've brought it up once or twice at 'white guys of America' meetings, but no one cares what I have to say.

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Divide and conquer, baby.

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Theyre not doing enough in the black community. I have been screaming for months about this and nothing changed and now look whats happening, said Democratic U.S. Rep. Alcee Hastings, who represents one of South Floridas largest African-American communities.

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I've had a similar observation. Unfortunately it's a popular by-product of contemporary story tellingthe hero must overcome great and recognizable obstacles. I have many friends in the mental health field, did you know that the wealthy have just as many emotional issues, depression, anxiety, all levels of dysfunction just as much as everyone else? Of course you do, you're a cop

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But the general view is that rich people have no room to complain about the same pain everyone else is vulnerable to. It's just not popular. Also, I've noticed a false narrative in movies and media that raise a supposedly oppressed person onto a pedestal where they are solely responsible for the greatest moments in historysubconscious guilt mongering. The Imitation Game seemed more about a persecuted gay man won WWII single handedly than a story about brilliant man and his work. Secretariat, Hidden Figures and others implying how strongly society worked to prevent great moments in history on behalf of their biases. It's exaggerated. But that's what passes for inspiration and thought provoking in our culture.

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But this has nothing to do with being "black enough".

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