Andy Serkis : His an atheist.

His an atheist.

I love it when good actors doesn't believe in superstitious humbo jumbo!

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Well that's just your opinion - and to be honest, I think that's a rather sad and pathetic way of looking at it: I don't see why you have to be so gleeful about it. You can still be a good actor and have a faith/spirituality of some kind. Although...that being said, I'm kinda with you, as I can't warm to actors who are Born Again/Evangelical Xns...

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Well I love that he is brave enough to speak out on being atheist. Too often people in the public eye play lip service to 'christianity' simply to be seen as acceptable.

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amen to that...

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Why do people really care what other peoples religious affiliations are? If he's a buddhist, muslim, catholic, atheist, voodoo, baptist I couldn't care less.

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This particular sub-thread is about caring if someone is PRETENDING to be religious for public image.

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Maniac-9,

Tell that to the Republicans who are pushing christianity onto the American public as a prerequisite for being President. As if that's in the Constitution...They disgust me to the core. As Thomas Jefferson wrote in a treaty, this is in no way a christian nation. It just happens to be a nation with many christians. The founding fathers would throw-up if they had to see what goes on with these ridiculous Republicans. Santorum, of course, is the worst. But Gingrich is right up there, too. And how would anyone know what Romney thinks about anything? I'm always fascinated when people have such certainty about the biggest thing in their lives which is based on no proof. My 'belief' is that blue is the best color. There's no proof of that, either. They are certain that their religion has it right, exactly like those in other, completely different religions feel about their religion. It's just what Republican campaigns use to make others running seem like 'not us.' They use it on Obama all the time. It's despicable. But then that's the stock in trade of the Republican party.

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2nd

It's my RIGHT to offend you!!!

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to: hb004e9899

Your response is asinine. It's OK for christians to be gleeful and try and convert every Tom, Dick, and Harry to that religion, yet you think it's pathetic for anyone else to be gleeful.

I'm disgusted with the current state of affairs in this country, where you have people, especially Republicans, espousing christianity, yet in every way and in all that they would like to do, they are no more 'christian' than Bolshevik soldiers, or worse, Nazis. These Fake-christians in the Republican party don't give a crap about their fellow man, nor do they want the share anything with those who cannot help themselves during these tough times. And worse yet, and taking a page from Nazi propagandists, they blame things on the poor. I despise everything coming out of the Republican party this year, especially the clowns that they have running, and the scum bags who applaud executions and people to be left dying just because they cannot get health insurance.

So, even with your tacit "I'm kinda with you," it must be said that my best friends, and some of the smartest and most interesting and moral people I know and associate with, are atheists. Christian Republic b68 ans these days seem to be devoid of morality, proving that you don't need a god to be moral...in fact it may be what you rally around to pronounce your immorality. As for me, I understand that we have absolutely no idea of there is or isn't a god. But the one christians have made for themselves, is one who doesn't care to show up, and is incredibly insecure, requiring this great god of the universe to have us tiny ants keep telling him/her/it how great he/she/it is.

Right now, some 20-30% of this once great nation is certifiably psychotic.

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OK - I don't even know where to start with this one...

True fascists believe in legislative control. That should take out half your argument, but it won't in your mind, so I'll start with (psychotic) issue number one.

Everyone in this country is granted free speech. From your anti Nestle Quik hater to the guy who hates Thursdays, we all 5b4 have that right regardless of how stupid it is.

Nazi's were actually socialists. Nationals Socialists, hence the term. They voted away their right to vote, and they were leftists.

Conservatives - not RINO's - believe in an individual's right to choose - you are lumping Right voters into one category and it makes you look stupid - delineate and you will have a more logical argument.

All Republican voters are not the same as all Democrat voters. Point of fact is that I try to offend everyone, left as well as right, to verify that I still enjoy the only amendment that lets me do it. Eff you if you don't like me.

I AM a republican atheist - I just vote for the party that wants to mandate less. I prefer to piss off people who don't make choice a crime.

It's my RIGHT to offend you!!!

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"Nazi's were actually socialists. Nationals Socialists, hence the term. They voted away their right to vote, and they were leftists."

You are such a fücking idiot it is unbelievable.

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Fascism is a mix of left wing and right wing positions.

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Atheism is superstitious, supernatural mumbo jumbo.Existence self-creating out of nothingness. That's worse than magic.

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As an engineer making a technical observation, I'd say that materialism alone is inadequate to explain the human condition. I mean, obviously there is a material component to our existence, but how does consciousness or free will creep into the equation? If we're just accidental machines, why did we "come awake"? And to say that free will is real is to acknowledge a supernatural force, in that natural events are only driven by cause-and-effect or statistical quantum uncertainty. Free will implies an effect without a cause, or an organizing spirit in the quantum chaos; that is to say, a fundamental violation of natural law as we know it.

The bottom line is atheists have taken as much a leap of faith, and have at least as much to explain, as those who profess religious faith. I've chosen traditional religious faith be 5b4 cause I realized it made more sense to me, once I'd opened my mind to the possibility.

I don't need to convince atheists they're wrong. I hope the more aggressive atheists will come to realize that not everyone who comes to an alternate conclusion is a kook to be mocked. Some of us are decent people who got here through reason.

This came up in this thread because Serkis was quoted something to the effect that he wished he could make religion disappear. Which struck me as ignorant, bigoted nonsense, in light of the history of the 20th century. As far as these actors go, I'm happiest knowing nothing about their personal lives; that way they can be blank slates. Instead, when I see Gollum, I'm pulled out of the show and I remember what he did that pushed my buttons.

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Atheism is not the belief of existence self-creating out of nothingness.
It is the lack of a belief in a supernatural deity.
I'm fairly certain that the vast majority of atheists like myself don't believe that existence appeared out of absolutely nowhere.

Just because I'm not on THEIR side, doesn't mean I'm on YOURS.

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This thread is about why having religious belief is a terrible personality trait for an actor/sewer rat to have. The guy before you made the mistake of dragging american politics into it, to sum up your post. I really like your post, since its about the tendencies of ideologies, rather than political parties.

However if we return to the topic briefly, ideology becomes less interesting. We want to see if we can say something about actual people in power (today), that have religious belief;

Both republicans and democrats claim that they are supported by Jesus, while suggesting states of government that are abominable to the christian mindset. Or as Dawkins puts it; the people in power are either the worst christians ever, or they are lying about their faiths.

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hb004e9899 (nice handle...?), wrote: "You can still be a good actor and have a faith/spirituality of some kind."

Yes, just look at the Republicans running for the Presidency...

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Though it's been quite a while since anyone in Hollywood was assassinated or tortured for being an atheist.

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great, welcome to the club. Enjoy the freedom

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great
reason rally

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So?

Gread

Good to hear he is not a relitard!!! All hail Ceasar!!!

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Make's me like him even more.
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