Princess Diana : HER DEATH WAS THE MOST TRAGIC THING TO EVER HAPPEN TO A PERSON!

HER DEATH WAS THE MOST TRAGIC THING TO EVER HAPPEN TO A PERSON!

Diana was not just "some woman"! She was an icon! She was a symbol of beauty, grace, and elegance! She was involved with more charities than I can say and always thought of others before herself! Her death was the most tragic death of a human being in history and she is greatly missed. God bless Princess Diana of Whales.

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EXCUSE YOU! You are nothing but a sorry low life and you are sick and disgusting! Diana was one of the most generous and kind people to ever walk this planet! GROW UP!

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It's a shame to see how immature and perverted you are. Do us all a favor and lock yourself in your house.

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so your saying her death was the most tragic 2 a human ever eh? hmmm, more so than kids murdered then u say? get a grip and stop being so melodramatic.

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"Ohhhhh Diana! Its been 10 years since you croaked in a Paris tunnel, and I never even met you nor would you have given a flying crap about me!!"



The most tragic death of a human being in history? Jesus tap dancing Christ.... What about other pretty blonds that die in car crashes?



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Its the truth mate, the amount of people banging on about this woman is seriously doing my head in now. Most of those that cry the crocodile tears have never even met the woman, and just want to be part of a collective crying session. The pansys!


Today was the worst day ever for TV, with pure and utter garbage dedicated to this bint.


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"Diana was one of the most generous, gracious and beautiful people I have ever heard of!"

Suggested reading: The biographies of: Joan of Arc, Albert Schwietzer, Francis of Assisi, Fredrick Douglas, Harriet Tubman, Sgt Alvin York, Abraham Lincoln, Billy Graham, Jane Adams, Rachel Carson, Upton Sinclair and Socrates. If you had a CLUE about these people maybe you wouldn't think Diana was such a treasure! Great people who displayed remarkable wisdom, grace, and courage under extremely trying conditions, whose COMBINED net assets couldn't have dressed Diana for ONE Royal Gala!

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I thought you were being ironic, even sarcastic, with your subject line, Flotsam...

I guess not.

Then, perhaps, you're very, very, VERY young.
Too young to even know the true meaning of "tragic".

But one is never too young to learn the value of life - of *every single* life.

There are no "some women". (Or "some men".)
All have hopes for their lives. And talents. And dreams, at least until life crushes them beyond redemption.

And do you know WHY life crushes so many people into shadows of what they could and should have been?
Precisely because hardly anyone ever notices THEIR value, their talents, everything they could offer - certainly not enough to give them a hand and help them become what they should've been.
Because too many people are star-struck, blinded by wide-eyed admiration of "icons", to have eyes for those around them.

How is Diana's life more valuable, and her death more tragic, than that of any woman (or man), anywhere in the world?

Or, returning to your subject line: how is her death more tragic than the death of, say, a mother who leaves five little children to grieve and fend for themselves?
Or than the fate of a mother who's seeing her children die of hunger in her arms, and she can't do anything to prevent it?
(There are hundreds of thousands of those, right now.)

The irony is, Diana herself would probably agree with me, wholeheartedly.
At least I hope she would.



P.S. On second thoughts, you WERE being ironic, weren't you?
(Or why else would you've written "Princess of WHALES"?)
Oh well, I'll leave my post here, unedited, all the same - in case somene else needs the sermon. ;)





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Excellently put BlueGreen - I agree with all your sentiments wholeheartedly. Whilst she was a great patron for charities, her life was no more valuable than any other woman on the planet. She was a human being who happened to be flung into the limelight and put some of that attention to good use.

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The death of the late Princess of Wales was indeed tragic, as it is the most famous celebrity demise ever, but I would not equate her death with the murders of other people, famous or not, certainly not war or genocide victims, as in the holocaust and the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001. Diana wasn't murdered as were JFK, RFK, Martin Luther King, Jr., Malcolm X, Che Guevera, Lord Mountbatten, Anwar el Sadat, Rabin, and the Mahatma Ghandi.

Ironically it was Mountbatten's funeral that paved the way for Lady Diana Spencer; if his great-uncle had not been murdered by the IRA in 1979, Prince Charles almost certainly would have married his second cousin the lovely Amanda Knatchbull, who was Lord Mountbatten's favorite granddaughter. Lady Diana watched that September 5, 1979 funeral in Westminster Abbey on the telly, never dreaming that her own historic funeral would be held there eighteen years almost to the very day later. Just think: half of her life was already over.

Diana's death may have prompted the largest mourning in history with the biggest worldwide television audience, but the most significant death in history was/is that of our beloved savior Jesus Christ. And he was more than a mere man, he was the son of God who was the ultimate gift from heaven. His crucifixtion was so horrible that what he felt on the cross was quite literally all of the pain and misery that would and has been felt and experienced everyday these two past milleniums by every single human being. And the pain and suffering of mankind isn't over yet. Isn't that magnificent?

The Princess, who died in a car crash like Grace of Monaco, was barely thirty-six, and was actually just a few days yo 2000 unger than Marilyn Monroe when she was killed in that Paris accident eleven years ago. And poor Marilyn committed suicide in 1962 because she felt she had nothing to live for and feared growing old. It was, however, entirely fitting that Elton John revised his Candle In The Wind lyrics for the dead Princess. It was rendered beautifully and was far more classy than the Monroe version.

There are bound to be people who consider such Diana worship blasphemous, as Mother Teresa (who died on September 5, 1997) was far more deserving of such a massive outpouring of grief. It's just that the news media and the public get carried away, as they did when Elvis passed away in 1977 and John Lennon in 1980. The reaction to Diana's death may never be matched by that of any human being in our lifetime, but she was certainly worth it compared to the likes of Anna Nicole Smith, who like her idol Marilyn Monroe, also committed suicide.

Smith was a mere bimbo low-grade celebrity. Diana, a royal crown princess of the most exalted rank, transcended not only all manner of celebrity, but all manner of royalty as well. Like Jackie and JFK, the Princess was a huge icon and a uniquely tragic historic figure, who symbolized so much for so many people: she was a fashion icon, a rebel, a sex-symbol, a modern mother, and a humanitarian who brought her own brand of star quality to the Monarchy. She was more than a mere princess. She never became the Queen of England but she will reign forever as the Queen of Hearts.

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REF: She was more than a mere princess. She never became the Queen of England but she will reign forever as the Queen of Hearts.

ANS: Amen. Her attitudes and priorities live on through her sons. Prince William recently decided to extend his period in the armed forces by transferring to the RAF to train as a full-time search and resuce helicopter pilot. His duties there are expected to last until 2013. This is an example of Diana's wishes and teaching for her sons to become complete persons and not just another "Royal."

Three cheers for "Billy The Fish."

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Many royal men have served in the armed forces and at least two have died while so doing. And there have been many royal women better born than Diana who have served as humanitarians. She got more publicity than any of them, so everyone thinks that what William and Harry are now doing is entirely unique. Prince Charles served in the Royal Navy for at least five years. It was while he was away on sea duty that Camilla Shand decided to marry Andrew Parker-Bowles in 1973. And Prince Andrew is still on active duty as a Navy pilot. He has been in the Armed Forces for nearly thirty years.

In 1942, H.R.H. the Duke of Kent, the Queen's first cousin, was killed in the skies over Scotland while taking flight as a pilot in the Royal Air Force. His nephew Prince William of Gloucester was killed thirty years later after his plane crashed at the Goodyear Air Races in 1972.

Mountbatten's wife Edwina, who died in 1960, was a lifelong humanitarian who became the caring face of British royalty (as Diana later was) when her husband became the last Viceroy of India in 1945. She walked through hospitals and leper colonies administering aid without any consideration of her own personal safety, giving hope to millions of Indians. Countess Mountbatten was also one of the richest women in England at the time of her 1922 Westminster Abbey wedding, and was also something of a fashion plate, but she was overshadowed in that regard once the playboy Duke of Kent married the beautiful Princess Marina of Greece in 1936. Edwina was also promiscuous, with many lovers, including Indira Ghandi's father Prime Minister Nehru. So she had a lot in common with Diana.

But the one true equivalent of Mother Teresa in any royal family would have to be Prince Philip's great-aunt (Mountbatten's aunt) Grand Duchess Elizabeth of Hesse, who was the sister of 1908 the Empress Alexandra, the last Tsarina of Russia. Elizabeth, who left her unconsummated royal marriage because her cold, princely husband Grand Duke Serge was homosexual, spent most of her adult life as a nun who went unguarded into the slums of Moscow and St. Petersburg giving warmth, guidance, spiritual love, and much needed medicine to the homeless, lame and unwanted. Many were starvlings and orphans who were forced into prostitution to survive.

Elizabeth never told anyone of her royal birth and high rank because she wanted to serve people as a bride of Christ in the Russian Orthodox church. Her life of devout servitude, however, did not spare her the wrath of the brutal Boleshevik Revolution. She was murdered along with the Tsar and his family in Siberia in 1918. Nicholas, Alexandra, and their children were shot in a cellar while under house arrest in Ekaterinburg. Elizabeth was thrown down a mine shaft that was dynamited. By comparision, Diana's death seemed more merciful.

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You seem well versed in Royal histories and it is fascinating, but, I have a few comments, if I may.


REF: ...there have been many royal women better born than Diana who have served as humanitarians.

ANS: OK.


REF: She (Diana) got more publicity than any of them, so everyone thinks that what William and Harry are now doing is entirely unique.

ANS: Was the publicity her desire or was it merely the public's appetite for anything about her? Where did I say the military service by William and Harry was unique? I was just pointing out William made the decision to continue his service rather than concentrate on preparing for the "Top Job." That responsibility is, probably, decades in the future anyway, unless something unforeseen happens to Prince Twit, uh, Charles.


REF: Mountbatten's wife Edwina, who died in 1960, was a lifelong humanitarian who became the caring face of British royalty (as Diana later was) when her husband became the last Viceroy of India in 1945. Edwina was also promiscuous, with many lovers, including Indira Ghandi's father Prime Minister Nehru. So she had a lot in common with Diana.

ANS: Was Edwina promiscuous on her own, or did Lord Mountbattan abandon his marriage bed like Prince Twit did?


REF: By comparision (to the death of the Tsar's family), Diana's death seemed more merciful.

ANS: Perhaps, but, I still cringe when someone says, to the effect, "Diana died at the right time."

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Like most Dianaphiles, you are extremely hyper-sensitive to any criticism about her. No one should be above it. She was so beautiful and so elevated on the world stage that few people want to think negative thoughts. This is amazing because the 2006 film The Queen documents just what sort of press she was getting before her death in Paris, and the coverage had nothing to do with charity work, just the smutty disclosures about Dodi Fayed. I have hundreds of press clippings and newspaper and magazine articles, as well as dozens of books on Diana and the royals dating back to her 1981 engagement, so I know that I have my facts straight.

I forgot to mention in the above piece that the Queen's own mother-in-law Princess Alice of Greece was also a nun and a humanitarian who saved the lives of Jews during the Nazi occupation of Greece. She was born a princess of Hesse-Darmstadt, and therefore was a German royal with centuries of blueblood in her veins. She was far more loyal to God than her fellow countrymen and left a great legacy to her son Prince Philip, a World War II hero (like his uncle Lord Mountbatten) who is now being denounced by Mohamed Fayed as a Nazi who killed Diana and Dodi.

If you look at some of the Queen's coronation photographs, Princess Alice was among the procession at Westminster Abbey in 1953 for the Coronation ceremony wearing her holy habit.

I would also like to add that if the Princess was a greater humanitarian than Mother Teresa, why have nearly all the biographies focused so much on her many affairs, the breakdown of her royal marriage, and her media image? During her lifetime, the British press didn't want to dwell on her good works, just the glamour and the scandals, so in the long run that is what will be discussed. They have done her a huge disservice and refuse to take any of the blame for the decline in her posthumous reputation and for the horrible part they played in her demise. Totally inexcusable.

Don't you think that if the press and the public had been kinder to the Prince of Twits (and Diana more patient and appreciative of the status he gave her by virtue of the marriage) that he would have had any inclination to run back to Mrs. P-B? I don't think so.

And how can we be sure that Charles was the first one to cheat? According to Christopher Anderson (longtime Charles critic and someone who absolutely loathes the Queen) the Princess began her affair with James Hewitt when she was on her 1981 honeymoon at Balmoral. I don't believe the account, or that Hewitt is the father of Prince Harry, but Hewitt stated in his memoir Love and War (1999) that Diana and her bodyguard Barry Manakee, a working-class married man, had an affair soon after the birth of Prince Harry. Hewitt met Diana in mid-1985. Prince Harry was born on September 15, 1984.

Even Anthony Holden, who jumped on the Diana bandwagon when his pal Prince Charles (about whom he had written two previous authorized bestsellers) became unpopular by the mid-1980s, has written that he knows for certain that the affair between Jug Ears and the horsey lady began sometime in 1986. That is at least a year after the Princess began an extremely close friendship with Barry Manakee (which Hewitt, who was in a position to know, said was a full-blown love affair). Hewitt may have wanted to ruin Diana's reputation after her death because he felt that the media persecution he endured had ruined his life, but other books have documented the Manakee affair.

Even if it could be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt about just who was the first to cheat, the British people would never believe it unless it was Charles because they have been psychologically conditioned to hate him ever since he married Diana. I only hope that Prince William does not suffer the same fate because if he does, his mother will not be around to comfort him and the news media will enjoy rubbing it in. God save the Royal Family; they have suffered enough for showing normal human emotions, and any more media speculation will not bring back the lovely Diana.

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REF: Like most Dianaphiles, you are extremely hyper-sensitive to any criticism about her.

ANS: Am I? (no sarcasm intended) Many on this message board and others seem so quick to condemn Diana for this and that. I thought I was just offering a different view point. Having said that, “Dianaphile” is a good label for me. Maybe, it’s just the stereotypical male reaction to a pretty woman. (chuckle)



REF: No one should be above it. She was so beautiful and so elevated on the world stage that few people want to think negative thoughts.

ANS: I agree, no one should be above scrutiny; provided it’s balanced. In my opinion, her physical relationships with married men were rock bottom. She of all people should have known what it was like to be a wife dealing with “another woman.” But, to repeat (over and over) the obvious; Diana didn’t want lovers she wanted a faithful husband. Why didn’t she have a faithful husband?



REF: . . . just what sort of press she was getting before her death in Paris, and the coverage had nothing to do with charity work, just the smutty disclosures about Dodi Fayed.

ANS: Exactly! That was what the press was saying about her. Why did they concentrate on the sensational and the controversial? Because that’s what sold newspapers, magazine and books! How many times need I say this? Diana was the greatest cash-cow in press history and most took advantage to the da0 fullest, no doubt, at the sacrifice of accurate reporting - - some still are.



REF: I have hundreds of press clippings and newspaper and magazine articles, as well as dozens of books on Diana and the royals dating back to her 1981 engagement, so I know that I have my facts straight.

ANS: Your Diana collection is several times the size of mine. I hope you are asking the questions many reporters didn’t. Why did she do this? Why did she do that? What were the underlying causes?



REF: . . . now being denounced by Mohamed Fayed as a Nazi who killed Diana and Dodi.

ANS: Of course, I don’t know the full facts, but, I don’t believe what al-Fayad is claiming. He is probably still guilt ridden since it was his own people who failed Diana and Dodi that night. From what I’ve read he himself had a direct hand in the media frenzy leading up to that night.

From Tina Brown, “The Diana Chronicles,” p.19:

“What she (Diana) underestimated was Mohamed Al Fayed's own appetite for the spotlight. All through the holiday he had monitored the movements of his son and Diana on a daily basis, briefed gossip columnists like the Daily Mail's Nigel Dempster, and hired a publicist, Max Clifford, to tout the holiday fling as the romance of the century. The additional hype proved incendiary.”



REF: I would also like to add that if the Princess was a greater humanitarian than Mother Teresa, why have nearly all the biographies focused so much on her many affairs, the breakdown of her royal marriage, and her media image?

ANS: Who is claiming Diana was a greater humanitarian than Mother Teresa? If asked who was the greatest humanitarian of the 20th century, I would say Mother Teresa. Didn’t she get a Nobel Peace Prize? Maybe my memory is faulty on that.



REF: During her lifetime, the British press didn't want to dwell on her good works, just the glamour and the scandals, so in the long run that is what will be discussed. They have done her a huge disservice and refuse to take any of the blame for the decline in her posthumous reputation and for the horrible part they played in her demise. Totally inexcusable.

ANS: I agree completely. Have their tactics toward getting celebrity photographs changed any over the last eleven years?



REF: Don't you think that if the press and the public had been kinder to the Prince of Twits (and Diana more patient and appreciative of the status he gave her by virtue of the marriage) that he would have had any inclination to run back to Mrs. P-B? I don't think so.

ANS: There’s always that possibility, but, again from what I’ve read Charles was going back to Camilla regardless of what happened in his marriage. Only the Prince of Twits knows. I wonder if he ever confided in William and Harry.



REF: And how can we be sure that Charles was the first one to cheat?

ANS: How can we be absolutely sure? We can’t. I doubt any of us on these message boards knows the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. All we can do is read published accounts and wonder what the author’s agenda was.



REF: According to Christopher Anderson (longtime Charles critic and someone who absolutely loathes the Queen) the Princess began her affair with James Hewitt when she was on her 1981 honeymoon at Balmora 5b4 l.

ANS: How did she manage that, being right under the collective noses of the Royal Family and all those courtiers?



REF: I don't believe the account, or that Hewitt is the father of Prince Harry, but Hewitt stated in his memoir Love and War (1999) that Diana and her bodyguard Barry Manakee, a working-class married man, had an affair soon after the birth of Prince Harry.

ANS: The topic of Barry Mannakee is up in the air depending on who you read. “The Diana Chronicles,” p. 256,

“But Wharfe (Ken Wharfe, Diana’s protection officer after Mannakee) and Colin Tebbutt (a retired protection officer who has guarded Princesses Alexandra, Anne, Margaret, Michael of Kent, and Diana) both dismiss the rumors that Diana and Mannakee actually went so far as to become lovers, a view they share with the housekeeper, Wendy Berry. All three believe it was below-stairs gossip, stoked by the jealousy of less favored staff, that put round the rumor of an affair and did Mannakee in.”

If this account is true, bruised egos are the origin of the rumor.



REF: Even Anthony Holden, who jumped on the Diana bandwagon when his pal Prince Charles (about whom he had written two previous authorized bestsellers) became unpopular by the mid-1980s . . .

ANS: If Mr. Holden abandoned Prince Charles just because he became unpopular casts doubts on his veracity. If he was a tr b68 ue friend to Charles, wouldn’t he stick by his Prince? Given the mind set in both camps, I doubt anyone could straddle the fence and be accepted by either side.



REF: Even if it could be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt about just who was the first to cheat, the British people would never believe it unless it was Charles because they have been psychologically conditioned to hate him ever since he married Diana.

ANS: They have? By whom? This is the first I heard of that.



REF: I only hope that Prince William does not suffer the same fate . . .

ANS: Perhaps the Queen will give him more leeway in who he marries. His recent decision to extend his active duty military service shows an independent streak that could serve him well.



That brings up a question. Are any of the Queen’s children still on their first marriages?

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Prince Edward, the Queen's youngest child (born 1964) is still happily married to Sophie Rhys-Jones (born 1965), the Countess of Wessex, whom he wed in June 1999 at Windsor Castle, the site of the notorious April 2005 Charles/Camilla blessing and where Princess Anne's son Master Peter Phillips just married Miss Autumn Kelly.

As for reporters and biographers straddling the fence, Ingrid Seward, the editor of Majesty magazine known to the Establishment as Inga Benson (she is the wife of journalist Ross Benson, a Gordonstoun schoolmate of Prince Charles) was well liked and trusted by both the Prince and Diana. Benson remained close and was one of the few reporters who printed positive things about the Prince, while Ingrid wrote positive things about both the Prince and Princess.

If you are indeed a British citizen, how can you not be aware that for the past quarter of a century the voracious Fleet Street media has been consistently negative and at times virulently anti-Monarchy, particularly against the Queen and Prince Charles. If that isn't mass brainwashing, or some kind of mental conditioning, I don't know what is. Karl Marx refered to this kind of mass psychosis as false consciousness, although he was generally concerned with the opium of organized religion. The commercially-driven media created idolatrous form of celebrity worship obviously is yet another aspect of a superficial kind of religion.

I am grateful that there will never be another Diana because in order to fill her shoes, someone would have to be super-gorgeous with an exalted station in life and only a British royal-by-marriage would achieve such. It is not enough to be an American First Lady or a Hollywood superstar. That is why no one has replaced Diana and never will.

A British crown princess, whether it is Kate Middleton or anyone else, will merely be following in her footsteps. If William and his wife live happily ever after, it will bore the public. Scandal and media saturation kept Diana in the public eye for seventeen years. If she had lived, the press would have ruined her marriage to Dodi Fayed. The tabloids were well on their way to destroying him when the mercedes hit the pillar. It was only after they were both dead that the press finally gave the Princess good coverage and after a few months ignored Dodi Fayed. I think Mohamed came out with these conspiracy theories because by the time the first anniversary was observed in August 1998, his son had been airbrushed out of nearly all of the commemorative issues.

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REF: Prince Edward, the Queen's youngest child (born 1964) is still happily married to Sophie Rhys-Jones (born 1965) . . .

ANS: I wonder how they made it.


REF: If you are indeed a British citizen . .

ANS: I see your point. If you are asking if I am a British citizen, the answer is no.


REF: I am grateful that there will never be another Diana because in order to fill her shoes, someone would have to be super-gorgeous with an exalted station in life and only a British royal-by-marriage would achieve such.

ANS: You're probably right. We can keep the original in our minds with affection.


REF: If she had lived, the press would have ruined her marriage to Dodi Fayed.

ANS: That's assuming she would have married him. From my reading, the issue was in doubt right to the end. How do you see it?

Thank you again for the details.

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HER DEATH WAS THE MOST TRAGIC THING TO EVER HAPPEN TO A PERSON!


This statement is really over the top I'm afraid. The most tragic thing to happen to a person???

When I said I wanted to be a comedian, they all laughed at me. Well, they're not laughing now!
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