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Do you think that six million Jews really did die in the Holocaust?

I think the true number is considerably less than that.

Take a look at your "promised" land. Your deed is that gun in your hand.

Re: Do you think that six million Jews really did die in the Holocaust?

They keep lowering the count for Auschwitz, but the total always stays at 6 million somehow.

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That's because of inflation

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It's a miracle!

Re: Do you think that six million Jews really did die in the Holocaust?

It's possible that they used a method of counting the dead that did not account for the large number of Jews in Europe killed by bombings and other violence of war that killed Europeans of all religions.

Suppose the number is four million. Or "only" two million. So what?

That wouldn't change the fact that yet another socialist nation engaged in mass killings is an economic measure in order to prop up a totalitarian regime.



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Re: Do you think that six million Jews really did die in the Holocaust?

Trump deported 50 million Mexicans.

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If only Trump would deport those third worlders who came here after 1965, legal or illegal, as well as their progeny. THis country would be so much better off.

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Ted Kennedy promised it wouldn't change the demographics. White liberals are the problem.

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I wish we could sterilize your kind from breeding. The world would be so much better off.

Re: Do you think that six million Jews really did die in the Holocaust?

Yeah then we could all be as good as everywhere that isn't Europe.

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Don't reply to me, it was addressed to the other Neo-Nazi pig.

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Where do you live?

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I'd vote to sterilize you, too. lol

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Re: Do you think that six million Jews really did die in the Holocaust?

Nice try. The Reichstag extracts confirm Adolf wanted the complete annihilation of Jews across Europe.

Re: Do you think that six million Jews really did die in the Holocaust?

Ever heard of Bolshevism?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavarian_Soviet_Republic

Bavarian Soviet Republic
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article may be expanded with text translated from the corresponding article in German. (August 2015) Click [show] for important translation instructions. [show]
Bavarian Soviet Republic
Bayerische Räterepublik
Unrecognized state
1919

Flag
Capital Munich
Languages German
Government Socialist republic
President
• 6 April – 12 April Ernst Toller
• 12 April – 3 May Eugen Leviné
History
• Established 6 April 1919
• Disestablished 3 May 1919
Currency German Papiermark (ℳ)
Preceded by Succeeded by
Weimar Republic
Kingdom of Bavaria
Weimar Republic
Free State of Bavaria
Today part of Germany
The Bavarian Soviet Republic (German: Bayerische Räterepublik)[1][2] was the short-lived attempt to establish a socialist state in the Free State of Bavaria during the German Revolution.[3][4] It took the form of a workers' council republic. Its name is variously rendered in English as the Bavarian Council Republic[5] or the Munich Soviet Republic (the German name Räterepublik means a republic of councils or committees; council or committee is also the meaning of the Russian word soviet)[6][2] after its capital of Munich. It sought independence from the also recently proclaimed Weimar Republic.
Contents
1 Kurt Eisner's bloodless revolution
2 Hoffmann government
3 Ernst Toller government
4 Eugen Leviné government
5 Demise
6 See also
7 References
8 External links
Kurt Eisner's bloodless revolution[edit]
On the afternoon of 7 November 1918, the first anniversary of the Russian revolution, Kurt Eisner, a politician [3] of the Independent Social Democratic Party of Germany (USPD) addressed a crowd, estimated to have been about 60,000, on the Theresienwiese (current site of the Oktoberfest). He demanded an immediate peace, an 8-hour workday, relief for the unemployed, abdication of the Bavarian king, King Ludwig III, and Kaiser Wilhelm II, and proposed the formation of workers' and soldiers' councils. The crowd marched to the army barracks and won over most of the soldiers to the side of the revolution. That night, the King went into exile. The next day, Eisner declared Bavaria a "free state" – a declaration which overthrew the monarchy of the Wittelsbach dynasty which had ruled for over 700 years, and Eisner became Minister-President of Bavaria.[7] Though he advocated a "socialist republic", he distanced himself from the Russian Bolsheviks, declaring that his government would protect property rights. For a few days, the Munich economist Lujo Brentano served as People's Commissar for Trade (Volkskommissar für Handel).
Eisner's Independent Social Democrats were defeated in the January 1919 election, coming in sixth. On 21 February 1919, as he was on his way to parliament to announce his resignation, he was shot dead by the right-wing nationalist Anton Graf von Arco auf Valley, who had been rejected from membership in the Thule Society because of Jewish ancestry on his mother's side. This assassination caused unrest and lawlessness in Bavaria, and the news of a left-wing revolution in Hungary encouraged communists and anarchists to seize power.[8]
Hoffmann government[edit]
On 7 March 1919, the leader of the majority Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD), Johannes Hoffmann, formed a coalition government, but was unable to muster political support.[9]
Ernst Toller government[edit]
On 6 April 1919, a soviet republic was formally proclaimed. Initially, it was ruled by USPD members such as Ernst Toller, and anarchists like Gustav Landauer, Silvio Gesell, and Erich Mühsam. Toller, a playwright, described the revolution as the "Bavarian Revolution of Love".[10]
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His government members were not always well-chosen. For instance, the Foreign Affairs Deputy Dr. Franz Lipp (who had been admitted several times to psychiatric hospitals), declared war on Switzerland over the Swiss refusal to lend 60 locomotives to the Republic.[11] He also claimed to be well acquainted with Pope Benedict XV[12] and he informed Vladimir Lenin via cable that the ousted former Minister-President Hoffmann had fled to Bamberg and taken the key to the ministry toilet with him.[13]
Eugen Leviné government[edit]
On Sunday, 12 April 1919, the Communist Party seized power, with Eugen Leviné as their leader.[3] Leviné began to enact communist reforms, which included forming a "Red Army", seizing cash and food supplies, expropriating luxurious apartments and giving them to the homeless and placing factories under the ownership and control of their workers. Leviné also had plans to abolish paper money and reform the education system, but never had time to implement them.
On 30 April 1919, eight men, including the well-connected Prince Gustav of Thurn and Taxis, were accused as right-wing spies and executed. The Thule Society's secretary, Countess Hella von Westarp, was also executed.[14]
Demise[edit]
Soon after, on 3 May 1919, remaining loyal elements of the German army (called the "White Guards of Capitalism" by the communists), with a force of 9,000, and Freikorps (such as the Freikorps Epp and the Marinebrigade Ehrhardt) with a force of about 30,000 men, entered Munich and defeated the communists after bitter street fighting in which over 1,000 supporters of the Munich council government were killed. About 700 men and women were arrested and summarily executed by the victorious Freikorps troops. Leviné was condemned to death for treason, and was shot by a firing squad in Stadelheim Prison. Gustav Landauer was beaten and shot by a mob of soldiers.[15]
One notable supporter of the movement was the young artist Georg Schrimpf, then aged 20, who was arrested when the movement was crushed.[16] Other prominent participants were Paul Klee and Hans Richter.

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Those were "Good Killings", LIB Approved And Certified.

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By 1943, ample reports of massacres of Europe’s Jews were arriving in the US, though it garnered little of the mainstream press.

At this time, Peter Bergson, a Palestinian Jew and member of the Irgun, a militant offspring of the Revisionist Zionists, and his young colleagues, shifted their attention to saving Europe’s Jews. Bergson, who had been sent to New York City, by Revisionists leader, Jaobtinsky, in order to create American support of the establishment of a Jewish army in Palestine, and his colleagues formed the Emergency Committee to Save Europe’s Jews and initiated it with a conference attended by 1500 delegates including former President Herbert Hoover and New York Mayor Fiorello La Guardia. The delegates ultimately adopted an eight-point rescue program, the primary feature of which was the creation of a US government agency charged with saving Europe’s Jews. They also called for their allies to immediately attack the concentration camps and bomb railroads lines leading to them.

The conference’s program sought to avoid the issue of a Jewish state in Palestine, preferring to leave that to another day. Indeed, the efforts of Bergson were perceived by the American Jewish organizations, and especially by Rabbi Stephen Wise, head of the American Jewish Conference, as an effort to divert energy and attention away from Zionism and the upbuilding of a Jewish state in Palestine.

Bergson’s group sponsored full page advertisements in the New York Timesand other newspapers with such bold headlines as, “HELP Prevent 4,000,000 People from Becoming Ghosts.” Another read, “THIS IS STRICTLY A RACE AGAINST DEATH.”

The Emergency Committee also organized public events and rallies and a march by 450 Orthodox rabbis to the White House and the US Capitol. They also staged a theatrical production, entitled, We Will Never Die, authored by Academy Award winning screen writer Ben Hecht and included actors such as Edward G. Robinson with music written by Bertoldt Brecht. The play chronicled the contributions of Jews and addressed the current situation of Europe’s Jews.

The production played to 40,000 in Madison Square Garden and, in Washington, was viewed by Eleanor Roosevelt and hundreds of members of Congress.

Though the Emergency Committee had raised the consciousness of Americans for the plight of Europe’s Jews, their efforts were strongly opposed by America’s organized Jewish groups including Rabbi Stephen Wise and his American Jewish Congress.

In Buffalo, Baltimore, and Pittsburgh, local mainstream Jewish organizations attempted to block the production of We Will Never Die.

Most significant of the Emergency Committees’ actions was to provoke the sponsorship of a resolution, introduced in the House by Baldwin and Will Rogers Jr., and in the Senate by Guy Gillette, on November 9, 1943.

The full text follows:

Whereas the Congress of the United States, by concurrent resolution adopted on March 15 of this year, expressed its condemnation of Nazi Germany’s ‘mass murder of Jewish men, women, and children,’ a mass crime which has already exterminated close to two million human beings, about 30 per centum of the total Jewish population of Europe, and which is growing in intensity as Germany approaches defeat; and

Whereas the American tradition of justice and humanity dictates that all possible means be employed to save from this fate the surviving Jews of Europe, some four million souls who have been rendered homeless and destitute by the Nazis: therefore be it

Resolved, That the House of Representatives recommends and urges the creation by the President of a commission of diplomatic, economic, and military experts to formulate and effectuate a plan of immediate action designed to save the surviving Jewish people of Europe from extinction at the hands of Nazi Germany.

Senator Gillette emphasized that the bill focused only on rescue and not on the issue of Palestine or a Jewish state.

It is not to be confused with the dispute over the future of Palestine, over a Jewish state or a Jewish army. The issue is non-sectarian. The sole object here is to rescue as many as possible of Hitler’s victims, pending complete Allied victory.

Stephen Wise tried unsuccessfully to persuade the sponsors of the bill to withdraw their support. But failing that, Wise traveled to Washington and testified before the House Foreign Affairs Committee, chaired by Sol Bloom, stating that the resolution was ‘“inadequate” because it did not urge the British government to open Palestine to Jewish refugees”

The lack of a reference to Palestine was, of course, intentionally absent from the bill.


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You're growing ever so closely extinct, anti-semite.

Re: Do you think that six million Jews really did die in the Holocaust?


That wouldn't change the fact that yet another socialist nation engaged in mass killings is an economic measure in order to prop up a totalitarian regime.
Makes you wonder why all the rightwingers cheered him on, don't you think?







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Re: Do you think that six million Jews really did die in the Holocaust?

The accepted number now seems to be 4.5-5M actually directly killed by the Germans and their surrogates, with another 1.5-2M dying from starvation, disease and mistreatment by nationals, Russians, while in hiding in the forests of Poland, Russia, etc. So probably 5-6M is an accurate estimate.



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Re: Do you think that six million Jews really did die in the Holocaust?


The accepted number now seems to be 4.5-5M actually directly killed by the Germans and their surrogates


Proof?

Take a look at your "promised" land. Your deed is that gun in your hand.

Re: Do you think that six million Jews really did die in the Holocaust?

Do you honestly want proof? Or is this an "evidence +1" type of thing?

Kola's work at Belzec for example certainly confirm that they died in truly vast numbers.

Re: Do you think that six million Jews really did die in the Holocaust?

How many people died?

Re: Do you think that six million Jews really did die in the Holocaust?

Between four and five hundred thousand at Belzec.

Re: Do you think that six million Jews really did die in the Holocaust?

What sort of proof would satisfy you?

Re: Do you think that six million Jews really did die in the Holocaust?

They didn't, it's a lie.

Re: Do you think that six million Jews really did die in the Holocaust?

No none of them died. You know how jews lie.

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Re: Do you think that six million Jews really did die in the Holocaust?

Are we expected to believe that in a war that killed 50 million people, the primary target of Hitler's ire came out basically unscathed?

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50 million died to save 6 million. Good deal.

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That isn't what I said, and that makes no sense. The six million weren't saved.

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Good points.

Take a look at your "promised" land. Your deed is that gun in your hand.

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Never showed up anywhere on this planet again. I've looked for such a listing but have not seen it. It is claimed but never proven.


Indeed, there were hundreds of thousands taken from France, Holland & Western Europe. Of course, that's gotta be some kind of shadow cover-up, leaving out the thousands of eye-witnesses and records left by government officials.


It looks as if the Allies went into Germany mid 1945 looking for whatever they wished to find. To some degree they were.


Yup. Railways. Death camps. Zyklon-B. Crematoria. Of course that was all fabrication on their part.



And the number 6 million is suspicious.


Queue the stupid pseudo-scientific number-crunching. Heaps of bodies were incinerated together. You already knew that you dumb lying prick.

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What proof do you have that gas chambers were used for homicidal purposes in the Holocaust?

Anything other than confessions that were extorted using torture?

Take a look at your "promised" land. Your deed is that gun in your hand.

Re: Do you think that six million Jews really did die in the Holocaust?

You didn't refute anything I said here, stupid a-hole. There are no records with names/identities for 6 million. You claim it, you prove it. No more acceptance of guestimates.

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Why did the camps have residue of Zyklon-B in them?

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That would depend on what Zyklon-B was used for.

For the second time, there is no proof of 6 million. No list of names of actual jews who were alive in mid 1945 but never seen again, couldn't be found anywhere after mid 1945. None.

You make the claim, you have to prove it. You cannot even identify these six million.

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Ah, so you listen to that idiot Nicholas Kollerstrom. The disinfection theory can be quickly debunked here: https://www.historiography-project.com/books/pressac-auschwitz/505.php

Why would they need a crematorium, you dumbass?

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For sanitary disposal of dead bodies.

Having a crematorium isn't proof of anything. You've supplied zero proof for any of your claims so far.

Take a look at your "promised" land. Your deed is that gun in your hand.

Re: Do you think that six million Jews really did die in the Holocaust?

No, you igna-f^ing-ramus.

The first and foremost question is ... what is the proof that six million jews, bar mitzvahed or born to two known jews, fell into German hands 1939-45 and then were never seen again. That must be answered before this pseudo-logical-deduction you are engaging in. There is no list of names fitting the aforementioned description. None.

It looks to be around 2 million, if German records are taken on face value.

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Speaking of proof, aren't you one of the mongoloids who insists the universe must've been created by a higher power even though there's zero evidence?

What a genuine mongoloid.

Re: Do you think that six million Jews really did die in the Holocaust?

You're trying to steer the direction of the conversation off-course.

Go make your own topic if you want to talk about that.

P.S. It is you who is the stupid one.

Take a look at your "promised" land. Your deed is that gun in your hand.

Re: Do you think that six million Jews really did die in the Holocaust?

Listen you god damned poofter. It is those who make the claim who must prove it. Not others to disprove. That is basic logical reasoning 101. No surprise you don't get that. There is no damned list of six million who were either barmitzvahed or born to two known jews that fell into German hands 1939-45 and then were never seen/heard from again. NONE. Maybe up to two million if German records are to be taken.

As for your other crap, no basis for it. In the past, I've said that what we can see on this planet and universe has the hallmarks of being created and certainly not random occurrence. It is Darwin's BS that has no proof whatsoever. No one has ever, or ever can, point at something and say "there you go, look at that, one species changing into another." None. Nada. Zilch. Nor can they claim that it has happened over immense periods of time.

All you have ever done here, since I've posted here, is make one or maybe two sentence little snarky remarks (excepting this one). Some lame a*s attempt at being witty. You belong over there on that sewer called the Soapbox. Not here on the politics board. You've had a bug up your a*s (whoops, pardon pun you poofter) ever since you read something I wrote that demolished the claim of homo marriage advocates. That's what you gripe with me is.

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Railways. [everyone has them]
Death camps. [work camps]
Zyklon-B. [louse killer]
Crematoria. [infectious materials disposal/terribly expensive and time consuming to run.]

Of course that was all fabrication on their part.


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Re: Do you think that six million Jews really did die in the Holocaust?

What is about the other 5-6 million victims?

It's always the Jews...

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Re: Do you think that six million Jews really did die in the Holocaust?

The Jews are the only ones that people are denying it happened to.

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Look at the owners/operators of major news media, entertainment media, and to some extent academia; the common thread running through the people in those.

Those three basically run the culture. Whoever runs those three will in turn run the culture. And its narratives.

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could be more could be less, loads of others got killed as well

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I think the true number is considerably less than that.
Based upon what? Ignorance? Hatred?

There is NO acceptable number!

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