Politics : The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

A distraction from all the sh!t-stained laundry that was thrown into the light regarding the corruption among the DNC. The Democrats have never even attempted to deny the details of those leaked emails. Because they can't. So the next step? Blame Russia and insinuate that your opponent was collaborating with them (all with no evidence) in order to deflect. They just can't handle the fact that Hillary lost and they're behaving like the biggest sore losers in history.

"Black Lives Matter is the last socially acceptable hate group."-Milo Yiannopoulos

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

^can't face reality

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

^Blindly believes everything CNN tells him.

"Black Lives Matter is the last socially acceptable hate group."-Milo Yiannopoulos

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

^triggered

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

When told blindly believes everything CNN tells him.


Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

Yeah, getting impeached for treasonous behavior would definitely be a distraction.


Farewell Transmission

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

It's more likely that the leakers will be charged with treason when found. And hopefully those who directed their actions. I hope they find a connection with your former messiah and the fake news networks undermining democracy for political gain.

To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it. G.K. Chesterton

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

You don't find it odd that Trump can't find it in himself to criticise a dictator who has had multiple sets of perfectly deserved sanctions laid against him and his country by the US and who by trump's own admission led the attempts to hack his political opponents?

"Whether homosexuality causes less harm (than slavery) is debatable" - Hada

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

https://www.dailywire.com/news/12224/greenwald-no-evidence-russian-hacking-narrative-robert-kraychik

http://www.globalresearch.ca/stunning-admission-from-obama-on-wikileaks-dnc-emails-leaked-but-not-hacked/5569807

And even if it turns out Russia did the hacking, what proof is there that this changed the outcome of the election? Can you read minds and tell me how many people's minds were changed by those emails? The only way they could have definitively rigged the election was if they hacked voting machines, which has already been demonstrated to not have happened.

Sorry, but you TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) sufferers have no case.

"Black Lives Matter is the last socially acceptable hate group."-Milo Yiannopoulos

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction



Figures you'd be one of those morons getting hung up on Obama using the word leaked as a desperate attempt to save face. The e-mails were hacked and then leaked you unbelievable cockwomble.

Face it, you voted for someone who was helped by a foreign state.

"Whether homosexuality causes less harm (than slavery) is debatable" - Hada

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

Figures you would ignore anything that contradicts your false narrative. Like a good liberal.

Your candidate and her party desperately wanted war with Russia. She lost and now they're pissed. And now they're doing whatever they can to reinvigorate conflict with Russia, even if it means manufacturing phony evidence. Russian hacking has become your party's weapons of mass destruction. And again, the Democrats have never denied any of the dirty laundry that was exposed. They've only deflected. They're not concerned with the notion of a foreign nation hacking (because if GOP emails were leaked they wouldn't care), they're just angry they got caught.

Oh and where was your outrage over Obama's "need more space" comment? Or Obama's campaign being in contact with Iran during the 2008 campaign? Remember when your boy mocked Romney for saying Russia was a threat? Now all of a sudden the Democrats are saying Russia is dangerous. GTFO. This is why people think you're a joke.


you voted for someone who was helped by a foreign state



You still have no hard evidence for this. But like a good liberal, you believe whatever PMSNBC tells you.

"Black Lives Matter is the last socially acceptable hate group."-Milo Yiannopoulos

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

Deflect, deflect, deflect!

"Whether homosexuality causes less harm (than slavery) is debatable" - Hada

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

Yes, you are.



Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

I more/less agree. I don't care about pointing fingers as much because I don't know the ins and outs of Democrat's behaviour. I do agree though that Russia is a distraction and it's nonsense. Completely erroneous. For anyone who ever wondered how a conspiracy theory begins and unfolds, you're looking at one.

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

^^This^^



^^And This^^

The Original 'The Trashcan Man' since 2001

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

No-one has ever applauded one of his posts before, not even his fake wife.

"Whether homosexuality causes less harm (than slavery) is debatable" - Hada

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

Ihave no socks. None, eddy.

The Original 'The Trashcan Man' since 2001

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

My wife is every bit as real as your beta-ness and internalized misandry. Which is quite real.

"Black Lives Matter is the last socially acceptable hate group."-Milo Yiannopoulos

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

LOL



Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

You are a wee wee. I am crushing your head.

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

Are you really that fuqqing naive?

Wake up and smell the coffee, Doosh Bag!

"Drudge is one of the most Unbiased news sources" - carrot_handvo

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

I'm curious to see evidence then. As far as I can tell, the Russia thing only exists in the less mainstream American media. I.e. I live in Canada and I've yet to see anything confirming anything about Russian involvement. So from where I'm sitting, even the debate over Russia hacking the elections exists in a bubble. You know how enormous it would be is the allegations were true? Surely the coverage would transcend borders, but there's nothing.

So why do you think Russia had something to do with it? Assume I've had coffee already. What's your evidence?

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

The FACT is, as of right now, no concrete evidence exists to prove a link At best they have anonymous sources, claiming there is a link, but as of right now it's a circumstantial case


"the absence of evidence is the actual evidence." Tcob44

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

I barely even understand why it's circumstantial but I'll take it. What you said seems pretty reasonable. Sounds right.

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction


I'm curious to see evidence then. As far as I can tell, the Russia thing only exists in the less mainstream American media.


The whole "17 intelligence agencies" thing was a joke from the start.
How so?

Lets look at the "17 intelligence agencies." Or at least one of them.


Here is all of them (that we know about).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Intelligence_Community

This is the one I want to focus on for this little demonstration
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coast_Guard_Intelligence

So. The Coast Guard.
Does anyone really believe that the Coast Guard conducted its own independent investigation of the election? And came to the same "Russian Hackers" conclusion?

It is beyond absurd.


Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

Yeah, Hillary is gone. And we all know she was a rat-fuq son-of-a-bitch liar.

I wish Trump did prosecute her. I would have liked to see her in an orange jumpsuit. But he's a pussy.

But it really proves nothing to continue regurgitating *beep* that lying twat said.

"Drudge is one of the most Unbiased news sources" - carrot_handvo

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

A) Trump released one of his cabinet members that had been linked to meetings with the Russians before his inauguration.

B) Senate members from both parties are requesting that an investigation be done. The Republicans are not doing this to "clear the air", but to maintain the security of the United States.

C) Trump has been more defensive of (and more cordial to) Putin than he has been to many of the other Republicans. When the media called Putin a "killer", we got the "Lots of killers speech". Had that been Ted Cruz, he would have jumped all over it. "His Daddy is a killer."

D) Trump just held a news conference, and barely mentioned it. When you ask a kid about his/her report card and he/she just says "It's fine", it obviously warrants further investigation.



"Drudge is one of the most Unbiased news sources" - carrot_handvo

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

Yes, a slam dunk, circumstantial case oh wait, there are no slam dunks in circumstantial cases


"the absence of evidence is the actual evidence." Tcob44

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

And what would comprise a slam dunk?

Video footage of the meetings? Audio recordings of the conversations?

Now, even much of that can be manipulated.

I gave three points that show a pattern of inconsistent behavior. Republicans siding with democrats, Trump being cordial, and a very short run for a new cabinet member.

But this is America, and you a free to be an ignorant fuqqin doosh bag if that is what you wish.



"Drudge is one of the most Unbiased news sources" - carrot_handvo

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

Here's a test. Trump on tape saying "grab her pussy" versus, someone saying, trump said "grab her pussy." Which is circumstantial, which is actual evidence?

It's entirely possible there are ties to trump. And I am guessing, if true, there will be actual evidence but as of now, nothing


"I gave three points that show a pattern of inconsistent behavior. Republicans siding with democrats, Trump being cordial, and a very short run for a new cabinet member."

The very definition of circumstantial evidence


"But this is America, and you a free to be an ignorant fuqqin doosh bag if that is what you wish."

And you a free to act like a child, because you can produce actual evidence of what you are claiming



"the absence of evidence is the actual evidence." Tcob44

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction


Here's a test. Trump on tape saying "grab her pussy" versus, someone saying, trump said "grab her pussy." Which is circumstantial, which is actual evidence?


Today? Audio recordings can be manipulated, easily. Someone who is very skilled can remove any evidence that it was altered. So, neither is actual evidence.


It's entirely possible there are ties to trump. And I am guessing, if true, there will be actual evidence but as of now, nothing


Financial transactions, if there were any financial transactions. That's the only thing I would consider 100% evidence any more. Video can be altered, not as easily as audio, but it can be.


Circumstantial evidence is evidence that relies on an inference to connect it to a conclusion of factlike a fingerprint at the scene of a crime. By contrast, direct evidence supports the truth of an assertion directlyi.e., without need for any additional evidence or inference.



The very definition of circumstantial evidence


I showed a pattern of four inconsistencies. Ever done any forensic accounting? There are errors, and then there are intentional manipulations. The difference is when there is intent, there is usually a pattern of several discrepancies. So not really the very definition of "circumstantial evidence". Same idea. But now you're just wasting my time.


And you free to act like a child, because you don't seem to the know what actual, versus circumstantial, evidence is


I'm calling you a doosh bag because you are ignorant, don't know the point you're trying to make (circumstantial vs actual) and you're wasting my time. So, go fuqq yourself.

Have a great day!

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

"Today? Audio recordings can be manipulated, easily. Someone who is very skilled can remove any evidence that it was altered. So, neither is actual evidence."

So nothing is evidence? Nope, not buying that response


"Financial transactions, if there were any financial transactions. That's the only thing I would consider 100% evidence any more. Video can be altered, not as easily as audio, but it can be."

None of which has actually been attributed to trump try again


"I showed a pattern of four inconsistencies. Ever done any forensic accounting? There are errors, and then there are intentional manipulations. The difference is when there is intent, there is usually a pattern of several discrepancies. So not really the very definition of "circumstantial evidence"."

Right. Based on such circumstantial evidence it would behoove people to investigate for actual evidence which I have never said we shouldn't investigate


"I'm calling you a doosh bag because you are ignorant"

Says the guy who can't provide any actual evidence


"don't know the point you're trying to make (circumstantial vs actual)"

I am pointing out reality to you cause in reality, actual evidence is required to prove said claims


"and you're wasting my time. So, go fuqq yourself."

You're wasting your own time, with comebacks that don't actually refute anything you're attacking me, because you know you're wrong, and can't just admit it

Good luck, troll.

"the absence of evidence is the actual evidence." Tcob44

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

A) is the only one that's even remotely suspicious. I'd be curious about anything that requires a man of that position to step down and or be fired. But who knows what could have occurred during those meetings. How many meetings? Before the inauguration could mean anything, including before or after the election. Wasn't the guy fired because he lied to Pence? That was technically the reason for his dismissal, right?

Senate members calling for an investigation means nothing. An investigation could yield no results.

Being cordial to another world leader also means nothing. As far as I can tell he was nice to Justin Trudeaua and Shinzo Abe.

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

Sure. Enjoy your Kool-Aid, Ass Hole.

"Drudge is one of the most Unbiased news sources" - carrot_handvo

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

Dude, you offer me nothing and expect me to believe you. Who's drinking the Kool-Aid?

Show me a source that confirms Russian hacking. Literally anything. Any website, any language, show me anything that justifies your conviction. Your arguments are unconvincing and you have no actual proof. What would you say if you were me looking at you?

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

A) I offered you four things. Learn to fuqqing count. You offered me nothing.

B) I said nothing about Russian hacking.

If I was you looking at me, I would say, "I am entrenched in my position and I'm not open to any information you're going to provide me."



"Drudge is one of the most Unbiased news sources" - carrot_handvo

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

You offered arguments that I addressed. You didn't give me any information. And if you're not talking about allegations of Russian hacking then I don't know what you're talking about. That's what I'm talking about. I agree with the OP for once in my life because I feel those allegations are untrue, unfounded and distracting. So

Also, when I responded to your arguments you told me to keep drinking the Kool-aid. In what world is that an argument? And you call me an ahole for what, having an explanation to all your arguments. Well, as me looking at you I see a guy who took offense because his arguments failed to persuade me so you think I'm stubborn when in fact it's you who are arrogant. Remember with whom the burden of proof lies here, buddy. You claim Russian shenanigans, back it up better.

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

"I am entrenched in my position and I'm not open to any information you're going to provide me."

Wow! You just described all of your responses, rather succinctly


"the absence of evidence is the actual evidence." Tcob44

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

Exactly. This guy probably thinks I'm a Trump supporter hence the Kool-Aid. That or conservative and beyond reason because he's what passes for an American liberal these days. I'm just a Canadian citizen who's never heard anything confirmed about Russian involvement in Trumps candidacy or election but see much belief that something did happen. To me, this is up there with any political lunatic statement like Obama's born in Kenya. People who love calling it out in others never see it in themselves. Make the same mistakes as their ideological opponents? Inconceivable!

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

From a joint FBI/CIA/NSA report:

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

Based on the views that Trump has expressed about the intelligence community, I see no reason why any of the groups that released this report would be pro-Trump.

Start there.

Don't be surprised that when you don't do your own homework, people get pissed off.

"Drudge is one of the most Unbiased news sources" - carrot_handvo

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

Yeah, the report, is still circumstantial (which is was when it was released over a month ago). If that report could actually prove, with actual evidence, the trump ties, we wouldn't be having this discussion.



"Don't be surprised that when you don't do your own homework, people get pissed off."

Knock off that ad hominem *beep* This isn't about the poster, it's about the FACTS, the actual evidence proving something, which as of right now, you don't have.


"the absence of evidence is the actual evidence." Tcob44

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

Nice play on the "I'm bubble gum and you're glue" technique.

FAIL

Grow up and then go fuqq yourself.


"Drudge is one of the most Unbiased news sources" - carrot_handvo

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

Nope. That didn't happen. What happened was, I am asking for proof, and you have none.

But sell yourself whatever you need


"the absence of evidence is the actual evidence." Tcob44

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

The best thing about this sh!tshow is watching morons like you tie yourself into knots trying to explain away treason. Just look at the pathetic figure you've become! Clinging so desperately to a now irrelevant figure like Hillary and shifting blame to a completely helpless party - and all just to shine the ring of your supreme overlord.

It would be sad if it wasn't so hilarious.


Instead of just waiting for their turn to speak.
- Marla

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

This isn't about Hillary. It's about the Democrats being sore losers to the point where they will make up any and every excuse for their failures. Blaming Russia is just one of many excuses.

BTW, talking about lifting sanctions is not treason. Sorry.


"Black Lives Matter is the last socially acceptable hate group."-Milo Yiannopoulos

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

LOL LOL yet more deflection and excuses. Now it's just the Democrats who are to blame!

Anyone but you and your Lord and Master, eh?

Must be unbearable to a sycophant like you to see him brought down like this.


Instead of just waiting for their turn to speak.
- Marla

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

Russia interfering in the election is the main item, it's the sex scandals
that are the sideshow. However, both can be used to rip the Trump admin to pieces.
http://pagesix.com/2016/12/26/trump-staffer-allegedly-entangled-in-sex-scandal/

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sex-scandal-behind-jason-millers-sudden-exit-from-trump-team-reports-say/article/2610377

Then there is the little matter of Steve Bannon's illicit drug habit
and how Donald Trump was a drug trafficker.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/19/the-drug-trafficker-donald-trump-risked-his-casino-empire-to-protect.html

It isn't any accident that Bannon and Trump are so close, like a junkie
is close to his dealer. And those sky high helicopter rides are probably
around the same time that Steve Bannon and Donald Trump met as junkie and dealer.

"Without education and intellectualism there is no morality."

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

Too bad, international press disagrees with you on that. Your guy pissed off Putin. Peace with Russia, eh?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ominous-story-of-syria-climate-refugees/

Re: The whole Russia nonsense is a distraction

Agreed
Top