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Pat Buchanan: The Deep State Targets Trump


Friday - February 17, 2017

When Gen. Michael Flynn was forced to resign as national security adviser, Bill Kristol purred his satisfaction, "If it comes to it, prefer the deep state to the Trump state."

To Kristol, the permanent regime, not the elected president and his government, is the real defender and rightful repository of our liberties.

Yet it was this regime, the deep state, that carried out what Eli Lake of Bloomberg calls "The Political Assassination of Michael Flynn."

And what were Flynn's offenses?

In December, when Barack Obama expelled 35 Russian diplomats, Flynn spoke to the Russian ambassador. He apparently counseled the envoy not to overreact, saying a new team would be in place in a few weeks and would review U.S.-Russian relations.

"That's neither illegal nor improper," writes Lake.

Vladimir Putin swiftly declared that there would be no reciprocal expulsions and U.S. diplomats and their families would be welcome at the Kremlin's Christmas and New Year's parties.

Diplomatic crisis averted. "Great move (by V. Putin)," tweeted Trump, "I always knew he was very smart."

But apparently, this did not sit well with the deep state.

For when Vice President Pence told a TV show that Flynn told him that sanctions did not come up in conversation with the Russian ambassador, a transcript of Flynn's call was produced from recordings by intelligence agencies, and its contents leaked to The Washington Post.

After seeing the transcript, the White House concluded that Flynn had misled Pence, mutual trust was gone, and Flynn must go.

Like a good soldier, Flynn took the bullet.

The real crime here, however, is not that the incoming national security adviser spoke with a Russian diplomat seeking guidance on the future president's thinking. The real crime is the criminal conspiracy inside the deep state to transcribe the private conversation of a U.S. citizen and leak it to press collaborators to destroy a political career.

"This is what police states do," writes Lake.

But the deep state is after larger game than General Flynn. It is out to bring down President Trump and abort any move to effect the sort of rapprochement with Russia that Ronald Reagan achieved.

For the deep state is deeply committed to Cold War II.

Hence, suddenly, we read reports of a Russian spy ship off the Connecticut, Delaware and Virginia coasts, of Russian jets buzzing a U.S. warship in the Black Sea, and Russian violations of Reagan's INF treaty outlawing intermediate-range missiles in Europe.

Purpose: Stampede the White House into abandoning any idea of a detente with Russia. And it appears to be working. At a White House briefing Tuesday, Sean Spicer said, "President Trump has made it very clear that he expects the Russian government to return Crimea."

Is the White House serious?

Putin could no more survive returning Crimea to Ukraine than Bibi Netanyahu could survive giving East Jerusalem back to Jordan.

How does the deep state go about its work? We have seen a classic example with Flynn. The intelligence and investigative arms of the regime dig up dirt, and then move it to their Fourth Estate collaborators, who enjoy First Amendment immunity to get it out.

For violating their oaths and breaking the law, bureaucratic saboteurs are hailed as "whistleblowers" while the journalists who receive the fruits of their felonies put in for Pulitzers.

Now if Russians hacked into the DNC and John Podesta's computer during the campaign, and, more seriously, if Trump aides colluded in any such scheme, it should be investigated.

But we should not stop there. Those in the FBI, Justice Department and intelligence agencies who were complicit in a conspiracy to leak the contents of Flynn's private conversations in order to bring down the national security adviser should be exposed and prosecuted.

An independent counsel should be appointed by the attorney general and a grand jury impaneled to investigate what Trump himself rightly calls "criminal" misconduct in the security agencies.

As for interfering in elections, how clean are our hands?

Our own CIA has a storied history of interfering in elections. In the late '40s, we shoveled cash into France and Italy after World War II to defeat the Communists who had been part of the wartime resistance to the Nazis and Fascists.

And we succeeded. But we continued these practices after the Cold War ended. In this century, our National Endowment for Democracy, which dates to the Reagan era, has backed "color revolutions" and "regime change" in nations across what Russia regards as her "near abroad."

NED's continued existence appears a contradiction of Trump's inaugural declaration: "We do not seek to impose our way of life on anyone."

The president and GOP should get out front here. Let Congress investigate Russia meddling in our election. And let a special prosecutor run down, root out, expose and indict those in the investigative and intel agencies who used their custody of America's secrets, in collusion with press collaborators, to take down Trump appointees who are on their enemies lists.

Then put NED down.

http://buchanan.org/blog/deep-state-targets-trump-126550


Re: Pat Buchanan: The Deep State Targets Trump

We all know what happened to the last President who wanted to make peace with Russia (JFK) and what the "intelligence services" did to him.

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This is a huge problem for Americans. The CIA shouldn't even exist. They're basically a secret, unelected government with too much power.

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Is the deep state also known as the swamp?

BTW: I've always enjoyed you keeping us up to date on PJB's opinion pieces. I respect his reasoned views on most topics, particularly foreign policy.

Also, it took me more than 20 attempts to reply to you. Most just got the "D'oh" page.

Live long and prosper.

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Hence, suddenly, we read reports of a Russian spy ship off the Connecticut, Delaware and Virginia coasts, of Russian jets buzzing a U.S. warship in the Black Sea, and Russian violations of Reagan's INF treaty outlawing intermediate-range missiles in Europe.

Purpose: Stampede the White House into abandoning any idea of a detente with Russia.

That seems like an odd conclusion for Pat to draw considering that the media simply reported events that recently happened - which is their job. One could equally conclude that this is game-playing by Putin, either to test President Trump's resolve or to distance himself from any implications that he and President Trump have some kind of bromance.


So it goes.

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we read reports of a Russian spy ship off the Connecticut, Delaware and Virginia coasts, of Russian jets buzzing a U.S. warship in the Black Sea, and Russian violations of Reagan's INF treaty outlawing intermediate-range missiles in Europe.




That seems like an odd conclusion for Pat to draw considering that the media simply reported events that recently happened - which is their job.





Because there aren't both Russian ships and US ships in international waters every day of the year? Planes don't fly over other vessels weekly?

My Russian buddy has been calling the Media's moves about a week in advance this entire time.

It's interesting when all the anti-war types suddenly start ramping up for a new Cold War. No wonder Obama never brought the troops home or stopped droning people. Apparently both sides are filled with huge supporters of the Military Industrial complex.

Frankly, for someone that's spent a good bit of time in Russia, I'm surprised that you don't seem to support having them as an ally?.. instead of the likes of China or Saudi, for instance.

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I'm surprised that you don't seem to support having them as an ally?

What led you to draw this conclusion? Especially considering that I have expressly stated otherwise more than once?


Planes don't fly over other vessels weekly?

I agree with you that it's not all that unusual, but don't you recall the Right-wingers having a shlt-fit about Russian planes buzzing American ships just a few months ago - about how President Obama showed weakness by not reacting to that?

How do you think President Trump should respond in order to show "strength"?


So it goes.

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There's a difference between calling it weak like we did with Obama and calling it evidence that Trump is under Russia's control as is implied by the media and stated openly by his critics.


To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it. G.K. Chesterton

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How do you think President Trump should respond in order to show "strength"?


So it goes.

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If it were me, I would find playing it cool to be the strong person's choice. Jumping at every provocation tells your enemy that you are easily manipulated and incited.

I would also not respond in kind, tit-for-tat shows you have no savvy, no imagination.

I would keep it in my pocket for leverage when the time comes someone expects a favor or insists on being shown due respect.

If the public were drooling for an example to be made, I'd use the proximity of the ship, for example, to study our new friend with as many facilities as would be needed to make them feel they've defeated the purpose. With conventional resources, of course. Don't want to show off our secret ship-following drones just to make a point. More of a, 'that's not a knifeTHIS is a knife' sort of exercise.

Perhaps conduct an operation to deliberately spam the area with air, sea and communications traffic about nothing, make 'em waste their time sifting through it all.

Maybe encrypt 1000's of hours of A&E, Hallmark Channel and Food Network programming and such, make it look like the kind of communications they are there to "practice" intercepting.

Or just hack the *beep* out of that ship and let them find the breach to say it serves them right.

My response would resemble the smile you give someone to say you 'aren't impressing anyone'. Whatever form that takesI'm not a joint chief or diplomat, so I could not possibly articulate the best way to do that out of what would be available to me.

Russia is playing games, Trump knows it. The media is not playing games, Trump knows it. It looks to me like he's very much in control of himself and the situation.

Trump saying it's not good, then zipping his lip about it for the time being ain't bad.

To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it. G.K. Chesterton

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If it were me, I would find playing it cool to be the strong person's choice. Jumping at every provocation tells your enemy that you are easily manipulated and incited.

I would also not respond in kind, tit-for-tat shows you have no savvy, no imagination.

So it was "weakness" when Obama did this but will be "strength" when Trump does?


So it goes.

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It was wrong for his opponents to call it weakness when he played it cool in the same situation. No it was not weakness, the criticism was unfair.

Unfortunately there were times when he should have reacted with force or at least armed support, but didn't. And that was weak.

To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it. G.K. Chesterton

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Especially considering that I have expressly stated otherwise more than once?


In all of the Russia bashing and calls for sanctions I musta forgot.





don't you recall the Right-wingers having a shlt-fit about Russian planes buzzing American ships just a few months ago


Just like I remember the Chinese hacking the Government last year, too.



How do you think President Trump should respond in order to show "strength"?


He should broker a deal with Putin to start importing all sorts of American products.. if for no other reason than to royally pith off McCain.

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I think Buchanan assumed the reader is aware that any mention of Russia by Trump that is not unbridled contempt is seen as fellatio.

They were not so hard-line when Obama negotiated with Iran, which has been far more uncompromising in it's hatred of the U.S. than Russia, in spite.

Sure, conservatives HATED all the concessions Obama gave Iranbut reaching out to our adversaries with an open hand rather than a fist was argued to be morally and diplomatically superior, wise and conscientious. Where did that high ground go all of a sudden when Trump merely talks that talk?

To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it. G.K. Chesterton

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Crypt, I'm going to have to subscribe to Pat's commentaries now that I won't be getting them here. As a firm believer that if Pat had been elected POTUS back in the 90s instead of "Neoliberal" Soros pawn Bill Clinton, the US would be situated far better than it is today, thanks for your posts.


The real crime here, however, is not that the incoming national security adviser spoke with a Russian diplomat seeking guidance on the future president's thinking. The real crime is the criminal conspiracy inside the deep state to transcribe the private conversation of a U.S. citizen and leak it to press collaborators to destroy a political career.

"This is what police states do," writes Lake.

But the deep state is after larger game than General Flynn. It is out to bring down President Trump and abort any move to effect the sort of rapprochement with Russia that Ronald Reagan achieved.

For the deep state is deeply committed to Cold War II.


The Deep State lost its well-funded and planned last piece of the puzzle when Trump thwarted the Clintons getting back in the White House. Trump had best realize he is at War with themand they are the greatest threat to National Security and Representative Democracy as we have it.



"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them." Solzhenitsyn

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The Deep State lost its well-funded and planned last piece of the puzzle when Trump thwarted the Clintons getting back in the White House. Trump had best realize he is at War with them—and they are the greatest threat to National Security and Representative Democracy as we have it.

Oh, the irony!
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Re: Pat Buchanan: The Deep State Targets Trump

The Russkies are jealous at all the Obama plants in various departments. Obama put them there to sabotage the Trump Administration.




Goodbye

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This is a great article. I laughed out loud at this:

Bill Kristol purred his satisfaction
I just KNOW Buchanan wanted to call him a certain synonym for cat that starts with p. lol


"If it doesn't make sense, it's not true." Judge Judy
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The real crime is the criminal conspiracy inside the deep state to transcribe the private conversation of a U.S. citizen and leak it to press collaborators to destroy a political career.



Good grief, I almost have to admire someone who made his career as a Nixon White House stooge to have the gall to say that.



"Paranoia is just another word for ignorance."
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson.
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