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Liberal Logic

Trump telling you to buy a line of clothing is an ethics violation.

Obama forcing you to buy health insurance you can't afford is cool.

Re: Liberal Logic

Your ignorance is showing.

Re: Liberal Logic

Con - flation.



You actually see those events as parallel, don't you?











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Re: Liberal Logic

You're right. One simply gave his opinion, the other used the force of the government. They aren't comparable at all.

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LOL



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Absolutely.

Obama didn't break an ethics LAW.

tRump's minions DID break an ethics LAW.

So much so that ummm, even Republicans agree and are alarmed.

I know that EmoCons think of themselves as the Lawgiver ones who shove laws down America's throatand NEVER have to actually live under laws themselves

IF they are giving laws, they are good. If the law is against them, burn America down.

Remember all those GOPee draft dodgers during Viet Nam with "other priorities" than USA.

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Obama in 2008 going on world tour (reporters following him around like rock band groupies), talking to heads of foreign gov'ts, quite a few hostile to the USA, talking about God-knows-what, promising God-knows-what if he's elected, potentially undercutting foreign policy of Bush II or McCain if elected. LIBs say: "so what?"

Trump simply talking during Presidential campaign that it would be good for USA to be on friendly terms with Russia. LIBs say: "massive investigation needed".





Gen. Flynn, still a private citizen, talks to Russian official and then doesn't tell VP Pence every entire, cotton-picking, single-solitary detail. LIBs say: "we demand a spec. prosecutor".

It is pointed out that the above information was obtained by secret intelligence monitoring of said Russian official. Release by someone in intel. community to MSM constitutes violation of US secrecy acts. <>

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Obama in 2008 going on world tour (reporters following him around like rock band groupies), talking to heads of foreign gov'ts, quite a few hostile to the USA, talking about God-knows-what, promising God-knows-what if he's elected, potentially undercutting foreign policy of Bush II or McCain if elected. LIBs say: "so what?"
You mean while he was a Senator? Are no US Senators allowed to go overseas or just the ones you hate?

Gen. Flynn, still a private citizen, talks to Russian official and then doesn't tell VP Pence every entire, cotton-picking, single-solitary detail. LIBs say: "we demand a spec. prosecutor".
So you're saying you think a US Senator and a private citizen are equivalent?
Interesting.

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Are no US Senators allowed to go overseas
Read the rest of that quote, dipsh!t. All I wrote makes perfect sense.




you think a US Senator and a private citizen are equivalent
No such thing follows from what I've written, dipsh!t.

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Read the rest of that quote, dipsh!t.
Name calling just reflects poorly on you, not me.

All I wrote makes perfect sense.
OK, let's start with this.
"talking to heads of foreign gov'ts, quite a few hostile to the USA"
Of the countries he visited, which ones do you think were hostile to the USA?

No such thing follows from what I've written, dipsh!t.
Again, juvenile name calling doesn't strengthen your argument, it weakens it.
But to your point, you start out talking about President Obama talking to foreign heads of state as a Senator and end the paragraph with, ' LIBs say: "so what?"' In the same post you talk about General Flynn, "as a private citizen", talking to "Russian official" and end with, ' LIBs say: "we demand a spec. prosecutor".' If you're not trying to say they are equivalent, then what is your point?

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Wrong again, dipsh!t. I haven't reflected nothing on myself by calling you names. My OP makes good sense. And the point of it was self evident. Your kindergarten English reading level probably caused you to miss it. Here it is again, since my unknown stalker will come along and report it for deletion.


Obama in 2008 going on world tour (reporters following him around like rock band groupies), talking to heads of foreign gov'ts, quite a few hostile to the USA, talking about God-knows-what, promising God-knows-what if he's elected, potentially undercutting foreign policy of Bush II or McCain if elected. LIBs say: "so what?"

Trump simply talking during Presidential campaign that it would be good for USA to be on friendly terms with Russia. LIBs say: "massive investigation needed".





Gen. Flynn, still a private citizen, talks to Russian official and then doesn't tell VP Pence every entire, cotton-picking, single-solitary detail. LIBs say: "we demand a spec. prosecutor".

It is pointed out that the above information was obtained by secret intelligence monitoring of said Russian official. Release by someone in intel. community to MSM constitutes violation of US secrecy acts. <>

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Wrong again, dipsh!t. I haven't reflected nothing on myself by calling you names. My OP makes good sense. And the point of it was self evident. Your kindergarten English reading level probably caused you to miss it. Here it is again, since my unknown stalker will come along and report it for deletion.
So you decided to focus on defending your juvenile name calling. And the points I made? <>

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I'm going to miss you NVDan. You've always been such a breath of reasonable air.

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I'm going to miss you NVDan. You've always been such a breath of reasonable air.
Thank you.

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I agree. I haven't always agreed with you, but I've always respected you. Same goes for CTS. It's nice being able to discuss things with mature, intelligent people without it devolving into "ur a libtard, u haet america!" On the other hand, I'm not above labeling Republicans as morons (but not conservatives, because they are not synonyms), but all the logic and facts in the world isn't going to work on some people, so you may as well use them for some amusement.



Never trust a black man named "Chip."

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Thanks. You and PaulsLaugh are among the posters who, even when I disagreed, I felt were usually trying to add to the conversation rather than just increasing the noise.

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Juvenile, dipsh!t, is you trying to pretend I said one thing when I actually said another. Or you try to claim meanings to my words that don't follow. Plus imitating me.

What I first posted has clear meaning. Here it is again (before it is deleted):


Obama in 2008 going on world tour (reporters following him around like rock band groupies), talking to heads of foreign gov'ts, quite a few hostile to the USA, talking about God-knows-what, promising God-knows-what if he's elected, potentially undercutting foreign policy of Bush II or McCain if elected. LIBs say: "so what?"

Trump simply talking during Presidential campaign that it would be good for USA to be on friendly terms with Russia. LIBs say: "massive investigation needed".





Gen. Flynn, still a private citizen, talks to Russian official and then doesn't tell VP Pence every entire, cotton-picking, single-solitary detail. LIBs say: "we demand a spec. prosecutor".

It is pointed out that the above information was obtained by secret intelligence monitoring of said Russian official. Release by someone in intel. community to MSM constitutes violation of US secrecy acts. <>

Re: Hey, stalker

Bottomline, Flynn meeting with the Russian ambassador is not the issue, however we know from the intelligence reports what Flynn promised Putin via the ambassador. Now if you have evidence of Obama "undercutting foreign policy" during his tour, present it now.

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Bottomline, Flynn meeting with the Russian ambassador is not the issue
Yes, it is being made an issue.




however we know from the intelligence reports what Flynn promised Putin via the ambassador.
Nope, Flynn didn't promise anything.



Now if you have evidence of Obama "undercutting foreign policy" during his tour, present it now.
Present the evidence of Flynn promising something. All I said or meant was that it is a good question to wonder what went on between Obama and some heads of state he visited in the 2008 campaign.

Re: Hey, stalker

The day obama imposes.more sanctions on Russia, Flynn is on the phone talking to the Russian ambassador. We KNOW.that the main topic were sanctions. We also know.that Putin didn't retaliate, in any way, which goes against all logic for the people who have studied Putin for years.

So, you tell me..was nothing promised by flynn? (The least likely scenario), or did Flynn promise him something he legally wasn't supposed to do (the most likely scenario)???

Get out of your head for once and look at things objectively.


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Juvenile, dipsh!t, is you trying to pretend I said one thing when I actually said another.
No, name calling because you know you've lost the argument is juvenile. I've never pretended you've said anything other than what you've actually said.

Or you try to claim meanings to my words that don't follow.
All I've done is quoted what you've said about what President Obama did as a Senator and what you've said in the same post about what General Flynn did as a private citizen. You've never attempted to explain how you think those two things are related. Instead, you've concentrated on juvenile name calling.
If you have some other reason for including both incidents other than you thinking they are the same, feel free to share it. Preferably without name calling.

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Re: Hey, stalker

Wrong again, dipsh!t. I haven't lost any argument. You have no argument. You are just claiming something about my words. And I don't buy into it. I don't believe there is any merit to anything you've said or claimed here.

What I wrote originally had crystal clear meaning. Here it is again (before it's deleted):


Obama in 2008 going on world tour (reporters following him around like rock band groupies), talking to heads of foreign gov'ts, quite a few hostile to the USA, talking about God-knows-what, promising God-knows-what if he's elected, potentially undercutting foreign policy of Bush II or McCain if elected. LIBs say: "so what?"

Trump simply talking during Presidential campaign that it would be good for USA to be on friendly terms with Russia. LIBs say: "massive investigation needed".





Gen. Flynn, still a private citizen, talks to Russian official and then doesn't tell VP Pence every entire, cotton-picking, single-solitary detail. LIBs say: "we demand a spec. prosecutor".

It is pointed out that the above information was obtained by secret intelligence monitoring of said Russian official. Release by someone in intel. community to MSM constitutes violation of US secrecy acts. <>

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Wrong again, dipsh!t. I haven't lost any argument.
And yet, you continue to use juvenile name calling.

You have no argument. You are just claiming something about my words. And I don't buy into it. I don't believe there is any merit to anything you've said or claimed here.

What I wrote originally had crystal clear meaning.
So that would be "no" on being able to offer a reason for including President Obama's actions as a Senator and General Flynn's actions as a private citizen in the same post other than the one I suggested.
Thanks for clearing that up. Should I expect another round of juvenile name calling from you?

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Re: Hey, stalker

And yet again, dipsh!t, calling you names hasn't invalidated anything I've said.

I don't buy into the premise you have made up that is behind your claims here. I don't need to show any reason. My original post here was crystal clear. Here it is again (before it is deleted):


Obama in 2008 going on world tour (reporters following him around like rock band groupies), talking to heads of foreign gov'ts, quite a few hostile to the USA, talking about God-knows-what, promising God-knows-what if he's elected, potentially undercutting foreign policy of Bush II or McCain if elected. LIBs say: "so what?"

Trump simply talking during Presidential campaign that it would be good for USA to be on friendly terms with Russia. LIBs say: "massive investigation needed".





Gen. Flynn, still a private citizen, talks to Russian official and then doesn't tell VP Pence every entire, cotton-picking, single-solitary detail. LIBs say: "we demand a spec. prosecutor".

It is pointed out that the above information was obtained by secret intelligence monitoring of said Russian official. Release by someone in intel. community to MSM constitutes violation of US secrecy acts. <>

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And yet again, dipsh!t, calling you names hasn't invalidated anything I've said.
It shows your level of maturity.

I don't buy into the premise you have made up that is behind your claims here. I don't need to show any reason. My original post here was crystal clear.
I totally understand. As I've recently discovered, you would rather post the same thing over and over because you lack the maturity to admit you're wrong.

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And yet again, dipsh!t, calling you names hasn't invalidated anything I've said. Or level of maturity. You playing games with my words; that is low level of maturity.

I don't buy into the premise you have made up that is behind your claims here. I don't need to show any reason. My original post here was crystal clear. Here it is again (before it is deleted):



Obama in 2008 going on world tour (reporters following him around like rock band groupies), talking to heads of foreign gov'ts, quite a few hostile to the USA, talking about God-knows-what, promising God-knows-what if he's elected, potentially undercutting foreign policy of Bush II or McCain if elected. LIBs say: "so what?"

Trump simply talking during Presidential campaign that it would be good for USA to be on friendly terms with Russia. LIBs say: "massive investigation needed".





Gen. Flynn, still a private citizen, talks to Russian official and then doesn't tell VP Pence every entire, cotton-picking, single-solitary detail. LIBs say: "we demand a spec. prosecutor".

It is pointed out that the above information was obtained by secret intelligence monitoring of said Russian official. Release by someone in intel. community to MSM constitutes violation of US secrecy acts. <>

Re: Hey, stalker

Funny you still haven't actually responded to NVDan's points.

Seems like you're willing to spend you last days on this board as a spamming piece of sh!t. (I don't have Dan's aversion to name-calling, sh!t-stain).

Re: Hey, stalker

I don't have to respond to what he's claiming, used-condom-floating-in-toilet.

I don't buy into his claims as to what my words mean, last-night's-dump-still-sitting-in-toilet.

So go f^ck yourself, used-tampon-encrusted-with-blood-streaks-and-hairs.

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And yet again, dipsh!t, calling you names hasn't invalidated anything I've said. Or level of maturity.
Juvenile name calling is a very clear level of your maturity. Adults don't need to use them. The fact that you're unwilling to admit that you're wrong is another indication of your maturity level.

I don't buy into the premise you have made up that is behind your claims here. I don't need to show any reason.
Which is just another way of saying you know I'm right but just can't bring yourself to admit it.

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Re: Hey, stalker

And yet again, dipsh!t, calling you names hasn't invalidated anything I've said. Or level of maturity. You playing games with my words; that is low level of maturity.

I don't buy into the premise you have made up that is behind your claims here. I don't need to show any reason. My original post here was crystal clear. Here it is again (before it is deleted):


Obama in 2008 going on world tour (reporters following him around like rock band groupies), talking to heads of foreign gov'ts, quite a few hostile to the USA, talking about God-knows-what, promising God-knows-what if he's elected, potentially undercutting foreign policy of Bush II or McCain if elected. LIBs say: "so what?"

Trump simply talking during Presidential campaign that it would be good for USA to be on friendly terms with Russia. LIBs say: "massive investigation needed".




Gen. Flynn, still a private citizen, talks to Russian official and then doesn't tell VP Pence every entire, cotton-picking, single-solitary detail. LIBs say: "we demand a spec. prosecutor".

It is pointed out that the above information was obtained by secret intelligence monitoring of said Russian official. Release by someone in intel. community to MSM constitutes violation of US secrecy acts. <>

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And yet again, dipsh!t, calling you names hasn't invalidated anything I've said. Or level of maturity. You playing games with my words; that is low level of maturity.

I don't buy into the premise you have made up that is behind your claims here. I don't need to show any reason. My original post here was crystal clear. Here it is again (before it is deleted):
I understand. You're frustrated so you lash out with immature name calling. And since you know I'm right and just can't bring yourself to admit it you repeat the same thing over and over because, being immature, you think that's an appropriate response.

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And yet again, dipsh!t, calling you names hasn't invalidated anything I've said. Or level of maturity. You playing games with my words; that is low level of maturity.

I don't buy into the premise you have made up that is behind your claims here. I don't need to show any reason. My original post here was crystal clear. Here it is again (before it is deleted):


Obama in 2008 going on world tour (reporters following him around like rock band groupies), talking to heads of foreign gov'ts, quite a few hostile to the USA, talking about God-knows-what, promising God-knows-what if he's elected, potentially undercutting foreign policy of Bush II or McCain if elected. LIBs say: "so what?"

Trump simply talking during Presidential campaign that it would be good for USA to be on friendly terms with Russia. LIBs say: "massive investigation needed".




Gen. Flynn, still a private citizen, talks to Russian official and then doesn't tell VP Pence every entire, cotton-picking, single-solitary detail. LIBs say: "we demand a spec. prosecutor".

It is pointed out that the above information was obtained by secret intelligence monitoring of said Russian official. Release by someone in intel. community to MSM constitutes violation of US secrecy acts. <>

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And yet again, dipsh!t, calling you names hasn't invalidated anything I've said. Or level of maturity. You playing games with my words; that is low level of maturity.

I don't buy into the premise you have made up that is behind your claims here. I don't need to show any reason. My original post here was crystal clear. Here it is again (before it is deleted):
You're right. Your original post was crystal clear that you thought President Obama going on a world tour in 2008 was equivalent to General Flynn, as a private citizen, talking to "Russian official".
It's also crystal clear that you had no idea President Obama's "world tour in 2008" was as a Senator until I pointed it out.
It's also crystal clear that you now realize that you were wrong when you claimed President Obama had talked to quite a few foreign governments that were "hostile to the USA". (None of them were.)
It's also crystal clear that being exposed angered you so much that, due to your immaturity, you lashed out with juvenile name calling.
It's also crystal clear that, again due to your immaturity, that you are incapable of admitting you are wrong.
It's also crystal clear that, once again due to your immaturity, you think by repeating the same post over and over it will hide all that is crystal clear.

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And yet again, dipsh!t, calling you names hasn't invalidated anything I've said. Or level of maturity. You playing games with my words; that is low level of maturity.

I don't buy into the premise you have made up that is behind your claims here. I don't need to show any reason. My original post here was crystal clear. Here it is again (before it is deleted):


Obama in 2008 going on world tour (reporters following him around like rock band groupies), talking to heads of foreign gov'ts, quite a few hostile to the USA, talking about God-knows-what, promising God-knows-what if he's elected, potentially undercutting foreign policy of Bush II or McCain if elected. LIBs say: "so what?"

Trump simply talking during Presidential campaign that it would be good for USA to be on friendly terms with Russia. LIBs say: "massive investigation needed".




Gen. Flynn, still a private citizen, talks to Russian official and then doesn't tell VP Pence every entire, cotton-picking, single-solitary detail. LIBs say: "we demand a spec. prosecutor".

It is pointed out that the above information was obtained by secret intelligence monitoring of said Russian official. Release by someone in intel. community to MSM constitutes violation of US secrecy acts. <>

Re: Hey, stalker


I haven't reflected nothing


Yet the cretin accuses you of "kindergarten English reading level". It's comedy gold, I tell you. I'm beginning to think the worst thing about the boards going away is I won't get to see this arrogant ass make a fool of himself, almost hourly any longer.



TNSTAAFL

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Still haven't figured it out.

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Re: Still haven't figured it out.

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Re: Hey, stalker

You do realize that you jutted yourself to be the same person jaguar is, amirite?


My OP makes good sense.



PS- nothing you ever say makes sense, let alone good sense.




I don't want the world. I just want your half.

Re: Hey, stalker

Nope. Makes perfect sense.

Re: Hey, stalker

Only in your feeble mind.

TNSTAAFL

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Only what, scrotum head? Huh?

And while I'm at it:

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Re: Hey, stalker

Too complex for you huh, cretin?

TNSTAAFL

Re: Hey, stalker

Couldn't tell last time which one of my posts you were responding to, scrotum head. Gutless, yellow belly coward. Your internet bully boy act never worked on me, did it?

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Re: Liberal Logic

Trumps mouthpiece did in fact commit an ethics violation

If you can't afford insurance you can sign up with ACA and get a plan that you can afford based on your income

Maybe instead of dropping out of high school you should have stayed and got your diploma. That could have helped you get a better job, better insurance coverage, etc

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Re: Liberal Logic

Since the precedent has been set that the federal government can force you to buy products from private companies, do you think it would be an ethics violation for Trump to mandate American citizens purchase his family's products?

Of course, you wouldn't actually be mandated to. You would just be taxed if you didn't.

Re: Liberal Logic

It would be an ethics violation. He can not profit by exploiting the office of president

Try to catch up jack. We only have a few more days left

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