Beyoncé : VOGUE publishes article on how race played into the Lemonade loss

http://www.vogue.com/article/grammy-2017-snub-beyonce-adele-album-of-the-year?mbid=social_twitter

And I can assure you hundreds of other thinkpieces like this are to come.

This conversation is NOT over.

Here's to the mess we make.

Most relevant bits:

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The vi2000sual album was not only the breakup/get-back-together narrative heard around the world but a collective movementa searing look at the intimacies of marriage and infidelity by an often underrepresented cohort in pop culture: black women.

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2017 marks the third time Beyonc has lost Album of the Year. First, in 2010 to Taylor Swifts Fearless, and then in 2015, Becks Morning Phase bested Beyoncs record-breaking self-titled visual album. Now Lemonade has been snubbed as Adeles 25 takes home the top prize. The last time a black female artist won the award was Lauryn Hill in 1999. The last black artist to win Album of the Year was Herbie Hancock in 2008, nearly 10 years ago, for a jazz cover album of Joni Mitchell songs.

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When the artist who wins Album of the Year uses her acceptance speech as a moment to acknowledge she doesnt deserve it, thats a clear indication that the Grammys have become not only out of touch but explicitly biased. Is it too early to start a #GrammysSoWhite campaign?

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Here's to the mess we make.

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The last black artist to win Album of the Year was Herbie Hancock in 2008, nearly 10 years ago, for a jazz cover album of Joni Mitchell songs.

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The album beat Amy Winehouse's Back to Black. That was a real injustice, not the overrated Lemonade. People really need to get a grip with this AOTY mess. Beyonce is not struggling and she already gets way more credit than she is due for her own mediocrity.

Beyonce is not a more talented writer than Britney Spears, somebody who has been hounded for not writing her own music since 1999. Yeah, she's written lyrics for a few Destiny's Child songs but she's never ever composed anything, unlike Spears. And there's actually concrete evidence that exists that Spears has composed music.

There are far more talented people than either Beyonce or Britney Spears (or Rihanna) and there are far more talented black artists than Beyonce (or Rihanna) and those people don't get the attention.

Race is an issue but Vogue lost their cred when they put Kim on the cover.

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And Kendull.

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LOLLL at "this is NOT over"

Umm It's The Grammys. Not a big deal. get over it.

Vogue doesn't matter. I wanted Sturgill Simpson to win. Her fan base can be so annoying and entitled. Beyonce has plethora of Grammys. Stop being so selfish when there are some very talented artists who don't even get nominated. Beyonc fans always bitch and moan every time she loses. This is nothing new. People will quickly forget about it and majority don't care.

I think you're right, it's a very important discussion but lets back up just a little bit here.

The GRAMMY'S are about music merit, so if technically we are going to view them from that perspective, our first line of issue should have been the nominations themselves. Just look at the mess of a category that AOTY turned into. Blackstar snubbed, A Seat At The Table, Coloring Book snubbed.

To me this year had more an issue in regards to it's quality control that it's political and race stance but lets have that conversation regardless because they will collide.

Clearly VOGUE is onto something with their article. Maybe for whatever reason the deciding factors felt uncomfortable giving Lemonade the award because they felt it would place them in a non partisan stance (particularly prevalent given the current situation) I think Beyonce is hugely talented and I love Lemonade. I'm one of the most supportive non Beyonce stans on the board but I resent two things coming out of this argument:

1. Adele suddenly being labelled as mediocre. She's an incredibly talented musician and vocalist who deserves respect. Did Lemonade deserve it more than 25? Yeah I would say so, does that make Adele the devil and 25 trash? Assess it deeper.

2. Beyonce being marked as a victim of robbery. Beyonce was a valuable part of the 3/5's of talent graciously allowed into the AOTY category. As I've mentioned before, first and foremost this needs to be a discussion about quality because only from there can we view it discerningly and fairly. What's more of a crime? That Beyonce was nominated and lost AOTY or that David Bowie or Solange didn't get a look in at the category while Bieber did? Adele had a right to be there and be considered in fair contention.

People can use the argument that AOTY is for commercial moments, impactful albums that made waves critically and in the way of sales but that's not how I see it. I think a greater issue is the lack of good musicianship in the category and the lack of that also plays into the diversity issue.

It's important to take a bigger issue with bad and undeserving nominations taking up useful space (Bieber) than fair wins that unfortunately miss the point of where we stand socially (Adele)

The race issue is so valid. But the Grammy's need to broaden their minds in regards to who they are willing to give these nominations to otherwise it remains a closed door to hundreds of artists who deserve it. That's why diversity still fails.

Lemonade winning wouldn't have opened those doors but opening those doors in the first place might have made the stale voters more receptive to voting for Lemonade.

I'm rambling but it's a quality issue first and foremost and only by addressing that will it cut at the heart of the terrible lack of diversity at play.




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Please use your anger towards fighting the NUMEROUS challenges that women, people of color, Muslims, immigrants, and the LGTBQ community will have over the next 4 years, and stop worrying about a self-obsessed sing who has already been overrated beyond belief. After watching her performance tonight, I can safely say her ego will be fine after a Grammy loss.

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Like you actually agree with the article, you lying sack

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