Chris Evans : Captain America 3

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http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2014/10/14/why-iron-man-v-c aptain-america-trumps-batman-v-superman/

here's a good article which i think breaks it down fairly. at the end of the day, it is business. if the cap vs IM movie dismantles BvS at the box office, that is quite huge, and desirable by the powers that be.

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if Cap was given enough protagonism in AoU, considering the success of Cap2 and how it was coming as the movie continuation of AoU... Cap3 would had made as much money as IM3 with Evans and the same bunch of actors that were in Cap2, which is fair to be said, it would had been pretty tough competition to BvS easily... but now with IM overtaking Cap3, there is no way we will see that, Evans doesn`t get to prove his star power on his own (because it will be said the success is thanks to RDJ), that is the kind of thing that affects careers in HW, specially one like Evans` who is looking forward to do directing after his contract and that requeires star power.

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in fairness, everyone has to recognize that evans' starpower on its own is... not much. it's not clear at all that a movie by him outside the MCU would approach the same financial success. in fairness to him, the days of a star being that kind of draw are also behind. as a plus, it's true that the movies he's been in has far outgrossed most of what his contemporaries' films have made.

the fact of the matter is, for better or worse, it appears part of the reason why disney and feige and RDJ love evans is because he's a team player. i choose to regard that as a plus. even if, in the long run, that doesn't amount to much, which, if one is perfectly honest, it probably doesn't.

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I agree, I`m not saying his star power outside Marvel movies, but Cap franchise is the kind of thing that it gives him some star power within the context of those movies that are the only kind of movie that give star power nowadays.. and RDJ can even talk about that too, since many outlets have admitted that since neither Marvel or CAA have said a thing about this when they were approached ;)

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looks like it will be civil war for cap 3.

https://games.yahoo.com/news/marvel-reveals-dates-titles-next-18315459 6.html

i still think this is a wrong move. i just don't think this storyline has been earned in any way.

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Looks like AoU and the fall out from that will lead up to it and then the Avengers Infinity 3 & 4 will be fall out from it and Thor Ragnorok

Some cute playacting from Chris and RDJ on stage

http://instagram.com/p/utOX6XLWRn

Seriously, right now they have in RDJ and Chris the perfect Tony and Steve and contracts don't last forever. If they don't do it now they'd probably miss the chance to lean on the popularity of these actors as these characters which is an important part of making CW work at all.

And a photo

Chris, RDJ and Boseman

https://38.media.tumblr.com/95e5b486ab170bd59fca530cf1b7c5e0/tumblr_ne 66b6X46X1s26ar2o1_1280.jpg

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the main reason why i'm displeased is that it seems they are going after the whole "death of cap" storyline. that in itself would be fine, but it seems they're going to add insult to injury by bringing him back. bad enough with coulson and groot. if they kill him, let him stay dead. it's cheap writing.

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Sorry, I don't care if it's cheap or repetitive or he's 357th person to come back from the dead, that's the nature and beauty of comics and more importantly I want my Steve rogers ALIVE. Not to mention no other Captain America ever counts - it's Steve that's what's important not the costume or the title. Also if he does give us being CA I want him actually do it because he's happy living some other life - or at least trapped in Dimension Z battling monsters and raising a child.

Now that they're moving into Dr Strange and other dimensions and Wanda and her chaos magic - there's also nothing far fetched about bringing Steve or anyone back to life.


Clip of Steve and Tony chopping wood in AOU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRGVBlur5jM#t=26

Edit: Oops it's gone.


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I admit it...it breaks my heart to think of Steve dying. It's dumb, maybe, but...I don't want it to happen! *sigh* I know it's coming, though.

Well, I hate that the video is gone, but it doesn't surprise me. When I tried searching for another one, I got a "how to" for making Captain America shield ice cream cookies. lmaooooooooo Gotta love youtube!

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then they shouldn't kill him. there are lots of different ways to resolve that storyline.

as you know, many ppl do stop reading comics in part because no one really dies... nothing is really ever at stake.

worst of all, if they do kill him, then there's probably a huge segment dedicated to bringing him back, during which he will not appear. boo to that, i say. boo. booooooooooooooo!

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I would prefer he not be killed at all as well but if I'm choosing between dead-dead and dead-revived I'm taking the later.

The way the Avengers sequels are lined up and current contracts situations stand though if they "kill" him it's best done for me at the end of Cap 3 so the time he wouldn't appear would be Avengers: Infinity Part 1 (it's rumored neither Evans nor Hemsworth would be in it because of contracts) and then back for Part 2.

I just don't want his death to be the last Evans is seen on scree 5b4 n as Steve Rogers.

EW's break down of the event with the last couple of pages giving a break down of the Steve/Tony/Woodchopping AOU scene and some stage photos

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2014/10/28/marvel-studios-reveal/5/


https://ewinsidemovies.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/1aaacapiron.jpg?w=9 29&h=782

https://ewinsidemovies.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/1aaablackpanther.jp g?w=929&h=741




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one question i have is how movies that are split into two parts are considered contract wise.

for instance, are the final parts of the harry potter franchises, kill bill, etc., etc., considered one movie or 2000 two?

the reality is, at this point, disney should just pony up the money to extend contracts for hemsworth and evans. cap3 will probably break a billion, as well AoU. the greed is shocking.

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They have to pay twice and sign new contracts. It goes back to The Muskateers films that were split from one into two movies back in the 1970s without informing or paying the cast. It's called the Salkind clause.

The movies are almost 4-5 years off so they have time to change plans and this just might be a contingency if the think they might not be able to re-sign them all to more like RDJ, Evans of Hemsworth. Or it could just be money - which might be why no BW solo movie since they'd rather use Scarlett contractually for The Avengers movies instead of needing to extend and pay more.

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Chris said in China that he has "Cap 3 and another Avengers" in his contract, now that they have divided it in two, each movie counts as one.. RDJ signed for Avengers 2 & 3, (but Cap3 outside what he already signed) but regarding the last Avengers movie, RDJ, Chris H & Chris E, they are all in the same situation, they are only signed for one part of Avengers, I believe Marvel would negotiate with TDJ to pay him for an extra Avengers movie, but the rumors for both Chrisses, that their characters won`t show up for the first part of the last Avengers might be true... I think Cap 3 might end with Cap death (as in CW) but for the final battle against Thanos (Avengers part 2) they will find away to bring him from the "death" because he is the one to lead them all.

I`m glad Black Panther and Captain Marvel will have their movies but I`m pissed off that RDJ will take so much over Cap3 because I know he will, he can`t refrain from doing his arrangements in the projects and Marvel does all for him... while they do sh*t for Chris H or Chris E, with them Marvel will use their original contracts till the end, instead of doing what they do with RDJ, which is pay him for each movie!

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there's a clip with audio that i'll post later.

but ppl who are worried that RDJ will overshadow evans... the strongest audience reaction is when steve rips the log apart with his bare hands.

just sayin'.

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but ppl who are worried that RDJ will overshadow evans... the strongest audience reaction is when steve rips the log apart with his bare hands.

[sarcasm]Yes, that one part completely assuages my fears...[/sarcasm]

It's a great moment, indeed. However, there are far too many moments in Avengers for that one to keep me from believing that Cap 3 will become IM 4. Sorry. The Civil War story line belongs in an Avengers movie, not a solo Cap flick. I'm still annoyed. ugh

I do like Cap's attitude and perhaps it's the Sebstan fan in me, but I can't help believing that he's talking about Bucky at the end of that scene.

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okay. someone's gotta say it.

buff chris evans being stern while ripping stuff apart and wearing a shirt two sizes too small is insanely hot.

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I think the entire internet has said this, or at least thought it.

Who needs the uniform & shield when you can have tight jeans & a t-shirt and a torn apart log.

Whew baby

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just sayin' that nobody had verbalized it yet in our little corner of the net.

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the fact that he is hot, it is a given!
but unlike many other good looking guys, he is also shows he is a good, funny, intelligent guy; other men might recon his looks or not, but if they do it, it's not with animosity, because he is someone that would be fun to have a beer and talk about both silly and intelligent stuff ;)

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the fact that he is hot, it is a given!
but unlike many other good looking guys, he is also shows he is a good, funny, intelligent guy; other men might recon his looks or not, but if they do it, it's not with animosity, because he is someone that would be fun to have a beer and talk about both silly and intelligent stuff ;)


I think that sums it up. There is nothing threatening about Chris. He doesn't look like the smooth talker who's going to run off with your girl. He's more like the best looking one of your buddies who is probably more likely to go off with you for a beer than take your girl!!

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Who needs the uniform & shield when you can have tight jeans & a t-shirt and a torn apart log.

I'm not kidding...I can't stop watching that part...I'm so serious. It's mesmerizing! What an incredible scene. It's the only one that's come out of the whole thing that's given me a bit of hope, tbh. Oh, and it's so mysterious...why are they chopping wood? Where are they? Someone mentioned on Cap 2's board that they're on Hawkeye's farm. Well, that just begs the question: Hawkeye has a farm?! lol It's an intriguing scene that actually has a lot of spoilers in it. It seems obvious that what Scarlett(or the "Maximoff kid") showed Tony was that shield broken, everybody's dead thing. Hmm I'll admit, I'm interested!

Now, back to that ripping the piece of wood while wearing the incredible tight shirt and jeans...uhm...yeah I should go watch it again...

Oh, BsM! You really had me going! hehe He's an everyman who just happens to be gorgeous, too. It's hard NOT to like Chris Evans. People who don't are just weird. The end. lol

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The playacting was funny...no contest for me, though. Team Captain America ALL THE WAY! haha

I'm with Amritz. I just hope RDJ doesn't eat up screen time. I'm not worried about Chris' screen time, but the other characters...uhm especially Sebastian.

I'm just blue...but hopeful.

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The video is PRICELESS at 1:09. Thanks for sharing, BsM. I actually clapped...yes, sitting here in my home on my couch by myself...I clapped. haha Oh, I needed a laugh and a smile! Thanks again!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGwuoYKhqx8

the infamous "avengers give lifting mjolnir a try" bit. i can hear it already: whedon hates cap!!!!!!

they're not gonna show him lifting the hammer in a teaser

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nah, it`s a foreshadowing!! I actually expect Cap to lift it casually to hand it over to Thor, at some point because he could lift it all this time he just didn`t want to show it off in front of others, so he faked he couldn`t :P


Nah... I don`t know if we will see in AoU or when they fight against Thanos, but if there is a hint like this, it means they will use it.

But I`m one of those who doesn`t trust Whedon with Cap.

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a longer clip of the marvel event showing everything more in its context, including the (now infamous) clip, feige trolling the audience with the fake title for cap3, and the audience's delight when RDJ and evans show up. the look of feigned consternation on RDJ's face when the excited fangirl yells out "CAPTAIN AMERICA!" is priceless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCxtl4V8Qx8

i also feel compelled to once again state that the paranoia about RDJ stealing the spotlight is overstated. there's a reason why this dude looks like the cat who swallowed the canary in all the publicity photos. to a certain degree, the MCU is his baby, as well, and it's a juggernaut. he picked out evans for cap, and it would be flat out bad for business for him to shaft him now. and i also think it's HUGE that it wasn't the avengers cast there laying out the welcome for boseman--it's RDJ and evans.

i mean really think about it. there's a good chance AoU will out-earn avengers to become the third highest grossing movie of all time. if it does that, there's an above average chance that it will boost CA3 to the billion dollar mark or more, possibly even nearing the avengers, so there's a chance that chris will have been in THREE of the top five (almost guaranteed three of the top ten) highest grossing movies of all time, getting first billing in one, and second billing in the other two.

really, that ain't too shabby.

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I get your point and it is a good point, I would just share my opinion after watching a Q&A Feige did with the invited press, after the event.. many reporters mentioned that when they talked with the Russos, they questioned about making Civil War and they denied it, Feige said that they`ve been going toward this all along but at that time the Russos could not say anything so they said CW wasn`t possible, so I will give the benefit of the doubt and will think this has been were they knew they were heading on since they panned TWS, considering the writers said Cap2 & Cap3 are two parts of one big story.

Now RDJ didn`t pick Evans for Cap, RDJ likes to say stories on how he talked with the actors to get their parts, but Evans wasn`t in Marvel radar because of FF, the casting of Cap was hard and they considered the one guy who actually had already proven that even with *beep* material, he could play a good superhero. RDJ might had influenced with a call, talking to him about the benefits for his career by taking a role in what was at that time, a growing studio.

I agree that it is very telling that they got both RDJ and Evans to be at that event and the truth is that in the Avengers franchise they are both their most representative stars, but the event was to present phase 3, and CA:CW is the movie that will kick off Marvel`s phase 3, so they got on stage the three main characters for CW.

And my thing in which I say RDJ will get the spotlight... we have seen in both SDCC and this event that people love Iron Man but it is Cap (Evans) who they have now placed as the favorite, the fans will love who they want to love, but the press will say having RDJ in it is what made it successful.. when in reality, Cap3 without RDJ in any other story-line, following Cap2/AoU, and being the last in the trilogy, it would had gotten to the billion mark anyway, because that is what happened to IM3, that came out afters the success of the Avengers, etc... it kind of takes a little from Evans hard work who had all on him and the directors and writers, the fact that now Cap is popular, but press and industry insiders will say it`s RDJ... there are already media outlets talking about how much MCU relies on RDJ/IM.

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yeah, I don`t doubt audience will like Cap more, specially if IM is played as much as a d*ck, as he is in the CW comics, though I doubt Marvel will want to throw Tony Starks under a bus making him as he is in the comics, since in the MCU he is much likable guy, which is why he is popular... anyway, Cap is a such a complicated character, not any actor would had been able to play Steve and make such good representation of it.

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Mackie in a radio interview said it starts filming in April for about 5 months and in addition to Pinewood Studios in Atlanta they'll do locations in Puerto Rico and Berlin.

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http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/01/15/captain-america-scribes-talk-the-civil-war-comic-book


Captain America Screenwriters Talk Civil War and Adapting the Comic

How Peggy Carter could be a factor, the Black Panther casting and more.


By Lucy O'Brien and Eric Goldman

During the TCA (Television Critics Association) press tour today, IGN joined a small group of journalists to chat with Captain America: The First
Avenger/Captain America: The Winter Soldier screenwriters Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely about returning to write the third film, Captain America: Civil War (and their TV series Agent Carter, but more on that later).

Naturally, with Marvel's formidable secrecy, there were few specifics they could give on the film, which -- like the comic book story it's based on -- will involve Captain America and Iron Man at odds with one another. However, they did touch on the Black Panther casting, the relationship between Tony Stark and Peggy Carter, balancing the Civil War comic storyline with the Marvel Cinematic Universe and the film's tone.

The Agent Carter TV series is further establishing the bond between Howard Stark and Peggy Carter, which begs the question - just how well did Howard's son Tony know Peggy? And how might Peggy, as a potentially important figure in both their lives, impact the Tony/Steve Rogers dynamic in Civil War?

Here's what McFeely has to say about Tony and Peggy and how their dynamic might play out in Civil War:

"As we have not started shooting, and I’m on my fourth draft of many, that question [of who Peggy was to Tony Stark] has been in and out all over the place so who knows. So many things can shake out but we’ve had conversations and we pitched scenes. Some stay and some don’t. But we saw [Peggy] in Winter Soldier, so we know she’s around".

The duo briefly mentioned their excitement over the casting of Chadwick Boseman as Black Panther, but didn't go into detail on the character, who will be introduced in Civil War.

I’ll keep that one close to the vest," said McFeely, "but I’m very gratified that they went with Chadwick and that he said yes because he’s a good get."

McFeely and Marcus also talked about their initial reactions to reading the Civil War storyline.

"There’s a depth of myth [to the Civil War storyline]," said McFeely. "People asked this earlier at our other panel, why now? Why are comic books so prevalent? Why are these movies doing so well? In some ways, we’ve become a genre that you can do well now given the world of computers and perhaps it’s also just a time in the sun. You went to the movies in the 50’s and 60’s you went to a western. So at this point, you’re going to a superhero movie. It’s taking over that same black hat, white hat myth-making surface. I don’t have a much smarter answer than that."

As for how long the storyline has been on the table as a potential film, McFeely admits it was "on and off", primarily because the MCU has evolved so much since the book was written.

"It’s been on and off the table for a while, let’s put it that way, and it’s a challenge to do it and make sure that all the characters that we’ve established, and everyone’s established in the MCU are serviced and sound correct, right? Because there’s a difference between the characters in Civil War, which was written in 2006, 2007. The MCU doesn’t exist [when it was written]. There isn’t a Robert Downey Jr. or Chris Evans who have helped create the character so we need to make sure that that template gets adjusted and what have you in order to make sure it services these characters and not just sort of rip off their parts and make them look like them.

As for the third time round writing for Chris Evans? McFeely compares him to a screen legend.

"I might be repeating myself. He’s Gary Cooper for me. Him as Cap is Gary Cooper. He can do a lot with stillness and because Cap is usually right and usually held up to be right, people want to be lead by him. So, that’s one of the things I like about Chris is that he brings… Remember the parts he played before this. He was uber charming. He was hilarious. He still has that. You still like him. But it’s the fact that he’s holding that back that makes you lean in to him. It’s a different chapter for him and I’m not sure any of us said, ‘That’s the perfect guy because he was the Human Torch!’ Turns out he was the perfect guy because there’s a depth to him."

Captain America: The Winter Soldier had a very different tone and aesthetic from The First Avenger, but it sounds like Civil War, which will again be directed by The Winter Soldier's Russo brothers, won't be quite as big of a veer.

Joked McFeely, "Every Captain America movie has a genre and Civil War is the musical! No, I think part of the reason for bringing back us and bringing back the [Russo] brothers is because Marvel is very pleased with Winter Soldier aesthetically. I think it’s a really adult movie. it’s very well made and that’s partly the texture of the movie. You can argue it’s the most realistic of the Marvel movies, whatever that is to you. I think it’s fair to say that a Russo brothers movie will stay in that vein."

One journalist broached the subject of Spider-Man, and the leaked info that there was an attempt between Sony and Marvel to introduce him into the MCU in Civil War that didn't pan out. Not shockingly, the writers were tightlipped on anything regarding that situation, with McFeely grinning and saying, "I read that as well" about the reports that Spider-Man nearly appeared in Civil War. Asked what he thought as the news began to leak, McFeely simply replied, "More problems for me!" And when he was asked which side Spider-Man would have been on had he been in the film, McFeely replied, "That’s a great question! More problems for me!"

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really good article!! I liked what McFeely said about writing for Chris

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From the Empire AOU cover intro.


http://collider.com/captain-america-civil-war-iron-man-robert-downey-j r/

Robert Downey Jr. on Tony Stark’s Evolution in CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR
by Haleigh Foutch

With Avengers: Age of Ultron hitting theaters in just three months we can expect pretty extensive coverage of the film in the coming weeks. First up is a pair of Age of Ultron covers from Empire‘s March issue, which not only highlight what to expect from the Agengers sequel, but how the events of Ultron are shaping the Marvel universe for what’s coming up in Captain America: Civil War. Civil War, which Anthony Mackie recently boasted as ”Avengers 3.8“, will see Robert Downey Jr.’s Tony Stark squaring off against Chris Evans‘ Steve Rogers in way that demands both characters undergo a massive transformation over the course of the next two films.

While speaking with Empire, Downey Jr touched on his decision to sign on to a co-starring in role in Captain America 3:

"They said to me, ‘If we have you, we can do this, or Cap 3 has to be something else.’ It’s nice to feel needed. And at this point it’s about helping each other, too. I look at it as a competition and I go, ‘Wow, maybe if these two franchises teamed up and I can take even a lesser position, with people I like and directors I respect, maybe we can keep things bumping along.’"

There’s no doubt landing Downey Jr. gives Cap 3 a huge boost, as Iron Man is the sort of godfather figure of the Marvel Universe, and Marvel’s only superhero that’s banked $1 Billion in a solo film. And while Stark has definitely evolved from the hard-partying ladies man of the first Iron Man, there’s still a lot of ground to cover before he becomes the the guy demanding all heroes register with the American Government for public safety. Downey Jr. sees it all as a natural extension of his character’s evolution given what the Avengers go through in Age of Ultron:

"It’s natural to change your views… The main thing to me is, what sort of incident could occur, and what sort of framework could we find Tony in? The clues about where we might find him next are in Ultron. But what would it take for Tony to completely turn around everything he’s stood for? Jos b68 s brings this up all the time. It’s kind of weird that these guys would have all these throw downs all over planet Earth and yet when the movie’s over, nobody minds. What would the American government do if this were real? Wouldn’t it be interesting to see Tony doing something you wouldn’t imagine?"

However, he doesn’t necessarily believe that Stark’s character transformation is headed in the manipulative and near-villainous direction of the comics, and he puts just as much emphasis on how Rogers will chance. So is Stark about to go from Marvel’s golden boy to the big bad?

"I wouldn’t put it that way. The biggest question is, for Chris and for Cap, how do we bring Cap to a place where people go, ‘Man, I never thought I would see such a vast change in Steve.’ After you see Snowpiercer, you’re like, ‘I want to see a little bit of that guy.’"

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"They said to me, ‘If we have you, we can do this, or Cap 3 has to be something else.’ It’s nice to feel needed. And at this point it’s about helping each other, too. I look at it as a competition and I go, ‘Wow, maybe if these two franchises teamed up and I can take even a lesser position, with people I like and directors I respect, maybe we can keep things bumping along.’"


RDJ`s ego is something so.... ug!!
he felt needed, well... if he`d say no, then the writers would have done something else form Cap3, it wouldn`t had been CW, but it would had been amazing, like Cap2.
and how nice of him to take a lesser position, by "lesser" I imagine he would not have his name on top of the title of the movie again.
I`ll better top there..

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You're blaming RDJ for being a team player, taking a supporting role and saying yes to an idea that Marvel wants to do to expand and strengthen the ties of their universe?

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RDJ and his ego are hardly a "team player" he is getting tons of money, more than the lead, to be the supporting role and he is playing it on press as "he was needed", and I won`t go into how press is already saying that having RDJ in Cap3 i giving a "bust" to the franchise.
Thanks RDJ you saved Cap

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Why does anyone care if he gets paid more? He earns it and if Marvel/Disney isn't paying him that money they're just putting it in their pockets, they're not going to give it to Chris or any of the other actors. So who isn't it fair to? Disney? marvel? This isn't some indie company cutting corners where if they pay one actor more they have to cut other people's salaries.

IM3 made $1.2 billion. Just adding RDJ a IM to this film means several hundred million more at the B.O. and more in ancillary. It could mean a 1/2 billion difference in revenue. Disney and Marvel know that or they wouldn't pay RDJ the big bucks since Marvel isn't exactly known for their largesse when it comes to salaries.

RDJis needed for THIS story. The Civil War is all about Steve and Tony and this is their ONLY chance to do it when they still have Chris and RDJ doing these roles. Feige also seems to believe it's necessary to propel the MCU and story into The Infinity Wars and probably other franchises. If Chris has signed on to do another Avengers then he evidently buys into this story and the fallout from it and wants to be a part of it past his original contract. And since it's past his original contract I'm pretty sure he too got a raise.

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I don`t care where the money goes, it is not about RDJ not having the right for it, is the difference, all the little stuff that goes into the net, so we can all see how he is the dearest actor in the MCU. How do we get to know about these things when we get nothing about others? like for example Chris, as you mentioned is he is doing more of these, he probably got a raise, we know nothing about it, we don`t know from many others either, it is because there is no interest in making PR out of it, like clearly it is in other camps to show off something.

RDJ is needed for CW, yes! but if he didn`t sign, they would had done another story for Cap, it would had been great too, which means, RDJ is needed for CW, he is not needed to make CA franchise great, it already is.

I`m not against CW, in fact I`m more exited about it than AoU, but I don`t like how much up from RDJ is, he has made more comments about it than Chris himself, of course Chris all he says is how much he likes him, so whatever, his thing... that doesn`t mean his ego and the Snowpiercer comment isn`t bothering me because I can`t avoid reading between lines.

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I like RDJ, but man his ego is insane. That Snowpiercer comment was unnecessary and I HATE that he’ll be over shadowing Chris.

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I agree. If the movie does well, it will be all hail to RDJ. I don't like that. I want Chris to get the praise he deserves.

RDJ chews up every scene he is in. Not totally happy about him being in CW.

What did he mean by the Snowpiercer comment do you think? I can see it a couple of ways, wondered what you all thought?

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Well, I'd keep this quote of RDJ's in mind (from 2004 I think):

"I figured if people didn't like it, I could always use another dose of humility."


Plus, if they do take Stark in a more villainous direction, it only makes Cap look better. Which is pretty gutsy considering how popular Iron Man is. I don't see a problem here.

"He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy! Now, piss off!" - Free speech forever! :)
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