Kristen Bell : When will Hollywood realize she's not going to be the next big thing.

When will Hollywood realize she's not going to be the next big thing.

She's not going to be the next Sandra Bullock, or Julia Roberts. She's not even going to be the next Jennifer Aniston. Her charm seems forced, and she can be incredibly annoying on screen. Aniston might not be a better actress, but she's not as annoying on screen.

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She has range and something about her holds your attention

Hollywood bankbility has changed significantly in the last decade. 16d0 It used to be that you had to be in quality films that made money. Now it's mostly about being in profitable movies that don't allow actors to show case their talent or add anything significantly memorable to the medium. So Hollywood right now is in a bad era right now. Some of the significant A list actors are considering television.

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Bell gets the attention she does not because anybody thinks she is the "next best thing" but because she is such an incredibly gifted actress. One of the best of her generation. The problem is people in Hollywood like her because she's so good, and even people who produce crappy stuff like Heroes or When in Rome are intelligent people who would like to do good stuff if they could, so they try to bring in really talented people like Kristen. But Kristen is just wasted on crap like that. They'd have been better off bringing in a pretty hack like Aniston.

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You're right about one thing Jennifer Aniston is a hack, but not even a pretty one. Kristen Bell gets the attention because she, her agents and publicists push for it that's why she does MA b68 XIM and other magazines. All she has to do is say no. All that publicity along with her starring role in Veronica Mars was helpful in getting her some of the movies. Yes she wants to be the "next BIG thing" nobody said anything about "next best thing". No she's not one of the best actresses of her generation, every gesture, every gasp and every sighs are over done. Yes people who produced Heroes and "When in Rome" are intelligent enough to get those made, they believe they could make good products, they were wrong. If Bell really wants to be taken seriously as an actress she would go the independent route just like Michelle Williams, but she's trying to go the Sandra Bullock, Julia Roberts route and be a major star. Most young actresses want to be the next Sandra or Julia, because they know those two are getting old and are losing their Box Office power and the industry is looking for replacements. Plus you can basically write your own ticket

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I totally agree with your post. Hollywood is just producing crap films. Kristen is a great actress but if a script is bad...a script is bad. The problem I think lies with the actors who have to do movies for the studio...I'm not sure how the contracts work but I know that they are kinda forced into doing crappy movies for the studios.

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i don't think she is trying to be the next big thing... and she is doing more indie/supporting roles. a lot of the movies she makes, while not well received, she did because she offered to work with a friend or was locked into a contract. if hollywood thought she was the next big thing, she would get much better offers than she does. but some of us are fans and personally i think she has a very strong range that i hope she is allowed to show, instead of boxing herself into comedy.

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She didn't do all those terrible romantic comedies as favors or because she was locked into them...she did them because she was hoping they'd launch her career like they did for Anne Hathaway, Reese Witherspoon and Katherine Heigl. NOW she's mostly doing indie stuff because all of her own major release starring roles were financial and critical busts.

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she did one and was locked into a contract for two more movies after that, leaving her with no choice. and why is it a big deal if she did? the point of being an actor is to try and make a name for yourself. it's pretty stupid to hate someone for trying to do their job, regardless of how good the source material is.

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Exactly - I'm trying to be the next big thing, too.

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I'm glad she's not the next Julia Roberts. I'd easily pass up the original Julia Roberts. Kristen is extremely likable and talented and if her movie choices have been less than perfect, I'm willing to forgive her.

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To become as big as Julia Roberts you have to have certain traits. You can't be too hot to turn off jealous women. They have to be able to compare themselves to a horseface like Julia Roberts. Sandra Bullock has good looks but not intimidating like a model and she has that girl next door personality. Kristen Bell charm does seem pretty fake and she looks like that little peppy blonde that some Oprah watcher's husband would leave his wife for if he could.She can't really connect with the audience she is trying to get doing romcom movies. She needs a down and dirty role that makes her seem real to the audience.Remember Charlize Theron not being taken seriously before Monster? Thats what Kristen Bell needs.




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No, the problem is not that she's doing romcoms, the problem is that most romcoms these days stink. She was fantastic on Veronica Mars. I wish they could just bring it back or make the movie... anyway, she doesn't have to play gritty characters like Eileen wuornos, she should just try to stick to the strong, sassy characters like veronica. That is when she shines. Though i don't think strong female characters are in demand that much these days or VM would still be on the air and Twilight wouldn't be making so much money.

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If she wants to become a huge star. She needs to diversify her roles. Unless she wants to end up like Meg Ryan. Still trying to do romcoms at 50.




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She needs to find good writers

Jason Siegel went out and wrote a good movie for himself. She's not a writer herself (apparently), so she needs to cultivate some friendships. She's got a sharp quality to her that doesn't fit romcoms. I can see the logic in doing them career wise, but it's not a good fit for her snark. Tea Leoni had the same problem (back when she still tried to work).

Kristen needs noir. Or a show like Girls where she doesn't have to be likable.

I don't love her current Showtime show House of Something, but it's a step in the right direction. She gets to be nasty and sassy, but Don Cheadle is still nastier than her so she comes off looking okay.

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I agree with you and a bit of what other have been saying. Something about her personality doesn't fit romcoms. Although she comes off very sweet in her interviews, she doesn't have the softness for romcom. Her sweetness doesn't translate on screen within the constraints of Hollywood scripts. It seems too forced, almost mannered.

There is an underlying intelligence about her that undermines the sweet naivety / cluelessness romcoms require. There is also natural edge to her, strength and self awareness that always comes across in her acting which doesn't work with many roles that would come out Hollywood. Some actresses can come out good playing those roles but it doesn't work for her. Unfortunately those roles are always written for minor characters and I don't know if she would take that step back. Who would want to.

I watched the first episode of her new show, but I haven't followed up. I wasn't impressed but maybe it got better. I hope she finds a role that allows her to tap into her range.

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December 21, 2012




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She didn't do all those terrible romantic comedies as favors or because she was locked into them...she did them because she was hoping they'd launch her career like they did for Anne Hathaway, Reese Witherspoon and Katherine Heigl. NOW she's mostly doing indie stuff because all of her own major release starring roles were financial and critical busts.



I agree with that. I can understand why she is trying to do romcoms. They really are the bread and butter for an actress and a stepping stone for making it to the A list. 2010 was supposed to establish her as a bankable leading lady but it didn't work out. Mainly because these movies stunk. Veronica Mars gave her credibility and she has the looks to make it big, however, you are the new fresh face and next big thing only for so long before Hollywood moves on. Kristen really seems to do any movie that comes her way. She doesn't need 4 movies a year, just one good one. If you aren't bankable or aren't winning anything (getting rave reviews) then you won't make it.

Unfortunately, she is getting a rep for making bad movies which puts directors and producers off who are looking for someone for a more serious role. She really needs to stop doing romcoms and do something completely different before trying it again with comedies.








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thankfully she's got House of Lies.

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Hollywood still seems be trying to make Kate Hudson into something big and the public still hasn't bought into it. Before her it was Gretchen Mol. I first remember seeing Mol on the cover all these magazines at once being heralded as the next big thing and not having a clue who she was. It turned out she was in a few big studio movies scheduled to released at about the same time. The problem was all of them got shelved. So you had magazines gushing over her performances in movies the studios deemed too crappy to release. It showed how much BS goes on in the system and you can't believe anything you read about these people. It's a mutual suckfest

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Notice hardly anything on this board for her Showtime series House of Lies , that's kind of telling. She's smart & good in the role not likely it will see a season 3 , really looking forward to something new & good she showcases in, looks like she has some lined up for '13

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She and Don Cheadle are the reason I started and keep watching House of Lies. I don't really like the show, but their performances and the way that they play off each other is entertaining. Especially when Cheadle talked about bouncing a quarter off her when they were on the airplane :)

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Kirsten's problem is she has a limited range and appeal, IMO. I know her die hard fans will never admit this, but this is the heart of her problem and why she hasn't really progressed compared to her contemporaries.

Her young male fans like her because she is petite and blonde... But that doesn't work anymore in a world where the amount of female viewers have now eclipsed male viewers on average. She embodies the girl other girls hate, or are afraid their boyfriends will dump them for in a heartbeat.

However, she could use this to her advantage and play the shallow, cold-hearted, social climbing, man-stealing, femme fatal, or "mean girl" if this suits her persona best. 5b4 Some actors have built entire careers on being the bad guy and this applies to females as well.

Kristen has also not proved she has true acting depth since being on "Veronica Mars" which is dangerously close to going on almost a decade now. She can't rely on her fans to constantly defend her by referencing an almost 10-year old performance that only a handful of people saw to begin with. Sure, the romcoms she starred in were terrible, but that is also the sign of a gifted actor: They can make something out of nothing.

In addition, her biggest turn-off is how she portrays herself outside her movie and TV roles.

She comes across as neurotic to the point of annoying. Not funny and charming, but annoying and immature like a lot of people have commented on. The irony is a lot of this neurosis also comes off fake (the way she presents it). So, even if it is real a lot of people perceive it/her as disingenuous which is the kiss of death for any celebrity trying to build, or connect with a broader fanbase...

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LOL, oh the delusional people here trying to claim she has no range. Have you not watched "Veronica Mars"? She runs the gamut of emotions in that show. One of the greatest actresses currently.

As others have pointed out, no..she won't be the next Jennifer Aniston. Bell can actually act. Aniston was great in "Friends", and I can't deny she broke ground in "The Good Girl", but everything else she has been in is painful to watch her.

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I don’t consider myself a diehard fan, but I do like her a lot – and I would love to see her in more ‘smart’ productions (T.V. or Movie).

To the “She embodies the girl other girls hate, or are afraid their boyfriends will dump them for in a heartbeat.” Seriously? Are you female? I can’t imagine anyone thinking that. I would love to hang out with her! She doesn’t look like a boyfriend stealer to me – more like a friend to go to an amusement park with. She likes to have fun, and seems like someone who would be fun to have around. She also seems to me to be a kind person. She does well in the mean girl parts as well – but comes across as sweet in general. (Perhaps just knowing what she has done and what she stands for influences that.) You are speaking like what you say is fact – at the end of the day it’s about fanship, opinion – if she has enough praise – she will have success. One opinion (which is what you and I both have) doesn’t really amount to much.

I agree she is a bit neurotic – but I find her particular type quite charming. I don’t think it’s disingenuous – she is consistent with regard to her quirks, and her mannerisms are not things most people would ‘fake’.

All a matter of opinion, either way. I like her, and I hope to see her in more films/shows that fit her.


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"She comes across as neurotic to the point of annoying. da0 Not funny and charming, but annoying and immature like a lot of people have commented on. The irony is a lot of this neurosis also comes off fake (the way she presents it). So, even if it is real a lot of people perceive it/her as disingenuous which is the kiss of death for any celebrity trying to build, or connect with a broader fanbase..."

Or maybe she comes across as goofy, fun, witty, wacky, charming, ridiculous, funny, playful and not a super serious stick up her ###### as you apparently seem to think everyone over the age of 12 must be. Just because you are too super oh so serious doesn't to find those to be positive qualities doesn't mean tons of others don't have the opposite take.

Heck her late night appearance get some of the highest thumbs up around. So maybe they are not a turn-off for as many as you think. A lot of people find it endearing and that wacky humor refreshing.

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If Hollywood found her "endearing" she'd be a lot more famous than she is. She's over 30 and time isn't on her side. Her career doesn't have much time left.

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I think they've finally gotten the hint.

Now it's just a matter time before people realize that Olivia Wilde isn't going to happen, either.

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Most Jews are white. Mishapsandpollacks (the 238 current screen name he uses to try to hide his posts as frecklesandspeckles) is one of the most prolific trolls (and THE stupidest troll) on IMDb, making outrageous comments to get attention because he has no life off of these boards. And secretly he is a self-loathing Jew who tries to bolster his nonexistent self-esteem by attacking people who are not Jewish or not white. As the entire world knows, Jews are not a separate race. Mishapsandpollacks knows it too, but he likes to attract attention to himself by harassing everyone with his bizarre rants that "J 5b4 ews are a separate race", and that people who have Jewish ancestry are "biracial". And with this post he firmly established himself as the STUPIDEST troll on IMDb:
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As you can see, after HUNDREDS of posts ranting that "Jews are a race", in that post he's arguing that Jewish is NOT a race, even calling someone a dumb ass in the process. And here's another gem from this moron:
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So with mishapsandpollacks kindergarten logic, everyone who has been discriminated against is not white. So women are not white; disabled people are not white; the English Dissenters in the 16th century were not white. STUPID, STUPID TROLL. And unfortunately, trolls seek attention by making outrageous statements. The only way to make a troll go away is not to feed him, meaning don't post replies. But this troll is too stupid to get the point quickly, so it may take a little patience on everyone's part in not responding to him. If you confront mishapsandpollacks's bigotry and let him know the truth (that he is a complete moron), he deletes his posts. I would like to implore everyone to foll 5b4 ow this idiot's posts, and when you see his lame-brain comments about "Jews are a separate race", or "Jews are better than everyone else" (I point out that I am a Jew), or "white people are despicable", or "only white people can be racist", or other such nonsense, confront it immediately and then move on so this troll won't continue to get attention. MOST IMPORTANTLY, click "Flag" on his post, then click "Report Post", then report mishapsandpollacks' post as hate speech. If enough people do this, we may finally get this troll to stop this bigotry.

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In the above post, mishapsandpollacks AGAIN illustrates that he is a complete idiot, that he can't read simple English. He is criticized again and again and again for making bigoted racial attacks on white people, and his defense is "What persons have I attacked that are not white?" Complete, indisputable, utter moron. But that's my last post here because I'll no long feed trollmishapsbigot. Everyone, follow this morons posts, and report his hate speech to IMDb.

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Because most Jews are not narrow-minded, stupid bigots like you. Because you are a DISGRACE to every Jew on the planet. Because you insult every truly biracial person or person of color. Because your brand of bigotry is completely disgusting, whether exhibited by a Jew or person of any ancestry, ethnicity, or racial identity. Because you don't deserve the right to spew your hatred on IMDb or anywhere. And finally, because getting your account disabled is my only project on IMDb and will remain my only project until you are gone.

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NO ONE, including idiots like you, is entitled to inflammatory hate speech. As for you being multiracial, if you don't have African, Mongoloid, Native American, or Australian Aboriginal ancestry, you are not multiracial. End of discussion; no more feeding the troll.

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Scarlett Johansson, Natalie Portman, Bar Refaeli, Bar Paly, and Esti Ginzburg are white.

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As for the "rush"...yeah, Kristen Bell got into this big rush in the few years after Veronica Mars ended, and she basically screwed herself by making so many terrible romantic comedies. I think she really did just take whatever she could, and unfortunately her choices for movies weren't that good. I do think she's been smart to get back into television as well as reviving Veronica Mars, but she did some big damage to her movie prospects.

Someone once theorized that Kristen took so many *beep* movies so she could fund a Veronica Mars movie. Maybe they were right. LOL.

I remember back at TWOP, someone theorized that it wasn't just how crappy the romcoms were, but just Kristen Bell herself. Even though she looks like she should be the romcom heroine, she just isn't an optimist at heart, and playing the plucky heroine just felt fake. There's this brittle edge to her.

It's si 1354 milar to why Nicole Kidman and Angelina Jolie just could never do the romcom thing successfully- they have this edge, and in Nicole's case, an iciness.

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Annoying is the right word to describe her. I just can't stand her, never, in anything. She's unwatchable.
No question, even with all their flaws Aniston and Bullock are better actresses and never nearly as irritating; Kristen is one of the worst around.

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