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That is the thing i will never agree on with people, People can like what they want, And that is perfectly fine, But i hate when people say an opinion cannot be wrong, Opinions can be wrong, Personal preferences, Maybe not, But opinions can be wrong, I love Buffy The Vampire Slayer, It is my favorite show ever, Nothing will ever surpass in my eyes how good BTVS is, Still if i take my bias glasses, I can perfectly admit Westworld is a way better TV show, No contest, So even if my opinion was Buffy the vampire slayers first season is so much better than Westworlds first season i would have a wrong opinion

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You form your opinion based on your judgement and preference. Whether you find a movie to be good depends on what you are looking for in the movie. Both batmanvsuperman and civil war had flaws, but only one of them is treated as such and if anyone dares say something against the other they are called a biased fan like you are doing above. To a fan of frank millers dark knight returns batman v superman would be better movie because it addresses similar themes and has been used as an inspiration. They could watch civil war a thousand times and still appreciate batman v superman more and see it as a better movie and they wouldnt be wrong for thinking so. That is only one example. I see so many stupid people here try to use bias as a way of dismissing an argument. Westworld is another example of an overrated show, like the walking dead and the others, people jump on the hype train and call it the greatest show ever and downplay the flaws.

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That os both funny and hypocrital when you yourself called me biased, I guess welcome to the stupid people train? Also i considered Westworld an amazing show even before i read anything about it online, So idk if other people decided to follow other people like sheeps or not, Same with Civil War and BVS i find Civil War to be the better movie from those two, If most people agree with me? Then cool, If they do not then that is fine too, I guess i am just lucky that the things i find good or like tend to be on the majority of the people's likes too, And yes both movies have flaws, Just BVS is more flawed

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Where did I call you biased? I didnt enjoy either but no civil war isnt a better movie. Lots of people jumping on the hype train doesnt make you right either, its the same with the walking dead. Most people love it, and yet its one of the most repetitive and boring shows ever created. You do sound like a sheep because you think saying other people agree with you makes you right. You should be confident in your own opinion and not rely or feel lucky when other people agree with you, and you shouldnt force your opinions on people or try to dismiss theirs like you were trying to do above.

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If you would like I can explain Zemo's entire plan from start to finish.

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I understand his plan and know what it was. However, that doesn't change the fact that it relied on many hypotheticals.

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He adapts to every situation that happens to him.

Every Villain has hypotheticals but I've read and re-read the Civil War script and Zemo truly doesn't even have a plan he adapts to every situation. He is one of the best written Villains I've ever seen and read.

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He is just throwing the hypoteticals things because he saw it in the video of honest trailer where the guy tried to emote the BVS honest trailer so people do not trash on him, And Astra acts like he is not influenced lol

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No, i have been complaining about the drastic amount of hypotheticals since i saw my second screening on the following day of the premiere that i attended. Can you imagine, a troll like me waiting for midnight to see a film i must already of hated. Thanks for insinuating that i have no original thoughts of my own. You and Bizarro seem to believe that i'm the mindless sex slave of Zack Snyder.

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Never saw you complain about Zemos convulted plan before the honest trailer was released, If you did and i missed it then feel free to link an old post of yours were you complained about it before and i will apologize, And yes i do think you are biased TBH or maybe you actually do think that BVS was better overall than Civil War, But as for now i think you are just biased because of your overall attitude, Like when i enjoy something i can still admit when its bad or dumb, Example, Arrow, Arrow is the show i enjoy the most right now, Even if its crap a lot of times, AoS is so much better than arrow in many ways, and yet it does not make me invest time on it or feel enterteined like Arrow does, Does not mean i cannot admit acting wise, Writing wise, AoS is far superior, I stil like Arrow better, And reason i think you are biased is because i have seen you said, Or imply that people who do not enjoy the Martha stuff must not understand it, If you really think people is too dumb to understand it and that is why 90% of the people think was a very dumb scene while you defend that scene saying it is good writting, Then yes i will think you are biased, Maybe you are not maybe you really do think that was good epic writing, Who knows

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Unfortunately i'm not sure how to find posts they were made months prior. The thing is i have already, prior to this thread, admitted that commercially Captain America: Civil War, is the better film.

I don't believe that Batman v Superman is an example of a masterpiece nor that the writing is bulletproof, however subtly it is rather great. I have never said that those who dislike the movie simply don't understand it, in fact usually i make it known before i post about the film that i by no means am calling anyone 'stupid'. The movie does require a specific amount of attention to detail though, it was only on the second watch that i noticed some of the films most impressive and significant aspects:

- The opening monologues significance.
- The emotional motivation behind Luthors actions.
- Bruce Wayne's current psychological state and why it is he kills.
- The importance of the bullet exposay at both the end and start of the film.
- The importance of the Martha, Jonathan and Lois scenes in association to Superman's return and his natural development into a more boy-scout like hero.

And so much more...

Not to mention the film is visually beautiful and the dialogue poetic. As i mentioned before, it also boasts one of the best Superhero movie scores to date.

The movie is certainly one that warrants multiple viewings, many say that Man of Steel improves with each watch, well so does Batman v Superman. The thing is, Marvel films aren't known for being rewatchable. You can, however they are always more boring than the first viewing.

I have admitted that the movie has flaws, i have admitted i hate Suicide Squad, i have confessed my love for the Marvel movies released and yet you all still declare me bias. Even for my opinion on Star Wars. I won't say 'Martha' is the greatest thing ever or that it was executed perfectly. I do appreciate the sentiment though.

Quickly back to the bias situation: I too have openly admitted that currently Agents of Shield (a Marvel property) is better than the four mainstream DC comic shows. Although i do admit Lucifer and iZombie are both better than Shield. The thing is i love both companies and that while i will always attend every midnight screening, only to then return home and post my (usually ecstatic) opinions on this board.

I don't care if people on this board dislike me or my opinions, however never say that i call people on here stupid. I'll only occasionally do that to Bizarro. Although he knows i love him.

I'm not DC bias. I'm not Affleck bias. I'm not Lotz bias. I'm just me.


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Personaly, When i watched Man Of Steel a second time i appreciated it more and liked it more, First time i watched i had to pause several times because i was boring me, I have watched Batman V Superman 4 times, And all 4 times i found it boring and just a bad movie overall, And with each watch i found it worse, Have watched suicide Squad three times, And same thing, I did not find it better with every watch but i found it worse, Reason i watched it more than once was because i watched it with different people that did not watch it on theathers, And one of those people said this to me after we finished watching Suicide Squad, "Why in the world you do this to yourself? Watching it this crappy movie more than once lol", On the other hand the first avengers i have watched it like 5 times, And the reason i even watched it so many times its because i am the kind of person that like to rewatch scenes i like, I find myself watching random buffy scenes on youtube very often, Some times i am like i will watch my favorite scenes on avengers, And i start the movie and i end up watching the whole thing, Even if it was not my intention to even rewatch the whole thing, That movie no matter how many times i watch i always like it so much.

About your bias, I have seen you mentioning negative things about Caity even thought i know you love her, So i am not saying you are biased about everything, Just about this movie i sometimes feel maybe because you feel this movie is getting more hate than it deserves that make you defend it more than it deserves too which makes you come across as biased i guess

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I have never said that those who dislike [BvS] simply don't understand it, in fact usually i make it known before i post about the film that i by no means am calling anyone 'stupid'.

You've said the following to me:


Twice then you just made a statement that i answered, i'm sorry. I can't help if your trying your hardest to hate [BvS]. This bullet tracing happens in so many crime films, go watch one of them, perhaps one critics loved so that you can understand.

Source: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2193021/board/thread/260869814?d=260884303#260884303


[...] it was only on the second watch that i noticed some of the films most impressive and significant aspects: [...] The importance of the bullet exposay at both the end and start of the film. [...]

Please elaborate on that here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2193021/board/thread/260869814

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That means you don't understand me, not the film. Did you understand that? 😂 I'm just yanking your chain, but seriously learn the difference. What is with you and late replies? You have done this twice now, wait until the thread is months old and then return vindictively. That argument was months ago and i don't care for reopening it. This board hates on me enough for enjoying the film.

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Snyder couldn't adapt his way out of a wet paper sack.

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I really can't disagree that he makes beautiful films but that is a subjective opinion although people have to be blind not to see the beautiful cinematography in Blind.

He made one mistake in my eye and that was shooting over 3 hours of footage for BvS, I mean what did he think was going to happen? There was no way Warner would have allowed that cut of the film into theatres.

My problem with DC isn't really Snyder but David Foyer and Chris Terrio.


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I get hating on Goyer, his consistency is worse than the porridge i ate this morning? But Terrio? His great.

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Thank.....god!


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I'm still really iffy on what a director actually controls besides editing and visuals, but I can say Snyder's Superman is the first and only incarnation I wholly dislike. It's just hard for me to root for the guy. Now maybe that's the executives' fault, maybe they came up with the idea for this darker trend for the character and hired Snyder with that in mind. But if nothing else I consider it something that makes me optimistic if Snyder gets removed, because it means things may change.

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Superman isn't going to be 'depressed' for much longer. The "Man of Steel, Batman v Superman and Justice League' arc will see him morph into the titular hero. The DC Extended Universe whilst rocky on execution seems to understand how to write character development that's designed for the long haul. Marvel and Fox struggle to do this.

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Personally, I don't think that "character development for the long haul" is something that's suited for movie franchises so much as television series. As it is, I have very little enjoyment from the first two movies starring Supes, and I'm gonna need to wait until potentially the second part of JL before I can feel as though I've gotten my Superman. That's a pretty long stretch of time just to get the baseline incarnation of a superhero, especially one who's never really needed to incubate before emerging as his recognizable persona.

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Its considered 'better suited' for Television as post 2000s it hasn't been done, especially in comic book universes. Why is it acceptable to wait five years to see The Green Arrow, yet not three movies to view your preferred interpretation of Superman? I have said it before and i'll say it again; The DC Extended Universe will be liked more once its finished in ten or so years. Only then will the characters be complete, the dreams explained and audience informed. Not that all the dreams will take ten years to explain, i'm sure we will find out more about the events of Batman v Superman in Justice League, it was just an example. Whats good about this long term development is sequels will be written for the characters, not the events. Iron man two and three are classic examples of a hero who has been completely developed and needs to be event driven. Hell even Wolverine gets more character development.

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Movies are genuinely considered to be self-contained, even if there's an ongoing story arc. A person should be able to go see a singular film and enjoy that film on its merits, whereas with serial TV dramas the series is usually evaluated as a whole, not season by season. Mind you, this is more for true serials like Breaking Bad or The Wire and not something like Arrow. I don't think the proto-GA thing they did on Arrow was too great, and it shows with how they avoided it on The Flash and Supergirl. Even so, you're talking a medium where one huge installment is done once per year or so versus around 22-24 installments per year. Gradual development simply fits the format of TV more.

Personally I'm not fond of having to wait anything close to 10 years to be able to look back in hindsight and say "this DCEU was actually pretty damn great" if it means that I sit through those ten years feeling either apathetic or downright miserable about the movies along the way. I don't mind the franchise getting better and better as the characters flesh out, I just find issue that we're already starting behind the 8-ball and playing catch up to get to a point where even general audiences are, on average, enjoying what they're getting.

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I don't think Snyder will direct for the DCEU again, no matter how Justice League is received.





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