Anne Heche : There’s no such thing as “drunk driving”
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Are you justifying DUI, of which there can be no justification or being sarcastic?
If AH was DUI I am glad she is dying.
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If AH was DUI I am glad she is dying.
"Please vote to preserve the unique character of Warren…" - Robert Duvall
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DUIs are just designed to punish poor people. A pig can claim it detects “the odour of alcohol” and hit you with a DWI and ruin your life forever, even if it was lying.
There’s nothing wrong with driving after drinking, the difference is whether you’re a shitty driver or not. Ann Heche would have easily been sober and plowed into that house. Just like how Paul Walker killed himself and another person without drinking.
The whole drunk driving myth is propaganda.
There’s nothing wrong with driving after drinking, the difference is whether you’re a shitty driver or not. Ann Heche would have easily been sober and plowed into that house. Just like how Paul Walker killed himself and another person without drinking.
The whole drunk driving myth is propaganda.
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Then how would you explain it that someone with a spotless driving record, never got into one accident her whole life, is now sideswiping cars and crashes into a tree after consuming a bunch of glasses of wine?
You honestly think she would have done the same thing on that same day had she been sober?
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You honestly think she would have done the same thing on that same day had she been sober?
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Hmmm, I would have to see the details of the case. Could be numerous variables in play here. Perhaps the wine is acting as a placebo effect, or she was distracted by her phone or something.
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I sorta feel the way you do, actually.
That it could be an issue of, "mind over matter."
I tell ya this though.
There is no way after I get fucked up, good and buzzed or drunk that I would try it unless it was on a safe course.
DUI is not a good idea and I really hate it when they do that and have no problem if they kill themselves when they do.
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That it could be an issue of, "mind over matter."
I tell ya this though.
There is no way after I get fucked up, good and buzzed or drunk that I would try it unless it was on a safe course.
DUI is not a good idea and I really hate it when they do that and have no problem if they kill themselves when they do.
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Jesus, and I thought your original comment was the dumbest thing I've ever read…
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Nice ad-hominem faggot. Keep dodging the question and avoiding the fact that 99.9999% of drunk drivers never hurt anyone.
Dumb fuck.
Dumb fuck.
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I believe the Brits call it "drink driving." Does that mean that they're still drinking while they're driving?
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👆 Always wondered that too. Silly brits and their daft phrases. )
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You drink and drive. Drink driving. Parallelism. They think you're an idiot who talks like "I drunk, then I drive." Fair go.
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No, I don't do that. I wouldn't do anything to make my lil crumpet worried. ;)
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Then you're saying she was driving 80 mph for shits? Then she was a horrible human being.
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So… a person who is drunk and driving a car isn't drunk driving? And if I'm caught behind the wheel of a car with at least a blood alcohol level of 0.08 I'm just driving shitty? Fuck. I guess I'm going to have to use that next time I get pulled over and they arrest me for registering a BAC of over the legal amount or failing a field sobriety test.
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My point is you could have a BAC of .5 and still be able to operate a car functionally. Whereas someone else could have a .05 and still crash and kill somebody. It’s completely subjective.
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No, there's nothing subjective. A high blood alcohol level is going to impair your dexterity and judgment. This can and has been measured and is an established, uncontroversial scientific fact.
People who drive while drunk, however skilled, are utterly worthless, irresponsible assholes. End of story.
People who drive while drunk, however skilled, are utterly worthless, irresponsible assholes. End of story.
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Utterly ridiculous lmao. A man weighing 300 lbs could have a BAC of .5 and not be impaired at all.
It’s completely subjective from person to person. This “scientific fact” you’re talking about is just pseudo-science peddled by charlatans.
There are plenty of examples of people actually having improved dexterity and judgement after drinking, you know nothing.
By your logic, someone would have a drink and then immediately crash their car into a brick wall without even leaving their driveway. You’d have to be congenitally retarded to do that, it has nothing to do with alcohol,
It’s completely subjective from person to person. This “scientific fact” you’re talking about is just pseudo-science peddled by charlatans.
There are plenty of examples of people actually having improved dexterity and judgement after drinking, you know nothing.
By your logic, someone would have a drink and then immediately crash their car into a brick wall without even leaving their driveway. You’d have to be congenitally retarded to do that, it has nothing to do with alcohol,
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This “scientific fact” you’re talking about is just pseudo-science peddled by charlatans.
Good, then you should be able to cite the studies showing impairment of performance by blood alcohol level and articulate exactly what mistakes they made.
Why do both of us know for a fact that you will never, ever do this?
There are plenty of examples of people actually having improved dexterity and judgement after drinking, you know nothing.
You apparently get your science from the the Journal of Alcoholic Delusions.
Newsflash: "examples" are nothing more than anecdotal "evidence" and are never, ever considered valid from the perspective of scientific discipline. If you knew this fundamental principle of the scientific method you wouldn't have made such an absurd statement.
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Lmao, the burden of proof is not on me faget. Besides which, you’re just building a strawman, which you can go burn somewhere else. No one here said the scientific studies made any “mistakes.” What is apparent is that the results of those studies are distorted and abused by frauds to push “drunk driving” propaganda that ruins people lives for having a beer.
Perhaps I should repeat myself again for your smooth brain, since you seem unable to read: my point is that in reality, 99.999% of drunk drivers do not crash or kill someone else. Go ahead, prove me wrong. Why do both of us know for a fact you’ll never do this?
FYI this isn’t a science class. I do not have to follow the scientific method to prove to you that I will not crash into a building and explode after having a beer. It’s just common fucking sense. You do not need to over-analyze and research something basic like that. The fact is that only morons crash their cars after having a few drinks (in which case they would have crashed sober anyway), or people with health problems.
Stop lumping bad drunk drivers in with the good ones. That’s another logical fallacy on your part.
Perhaps I should repeat myself again for your smooth brain, since you seem unable to read: my point is that in reality, 99.999% of drunk drivers do not crash or kill someone else. Go ahead, prove me wrong. Why do both of us know for a fact you’ll never do this?
FYI this isn’t a science class. I do not have to follow the scientific method to prove to you that I will not crash into a building and explode after having a beer. It’s just common fucking sense. You do not need to over-analyze and research something basic like that. The fact is that only morons crash their cars after having a few drinks (in which case they would have crashed sober anyway), or people with health problems.
Stop lumping bad drunk drivers in with the good ones. That’s another logical fallacy on your part.
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Lmao, the burden of proof is not on me faget.
Actually, the burden of proof is on you.
What is apparent is that the results of those studies are distorted and abused by frauds to push “drunk driving” propaganda that ruins people lives for having a beer.
If this were actually "apparent", you would be able to articulate the details of those studies and show exactly how they have been dishonestly manipulated. You can't. You are just making shit up.
And let's be clear, here: no one's life has been ruined for "having a beer".
my point is that in reality, 99.999% of drunk drivers do not crash or kill someone else. Go ahead, prove me wrong. Why do both of us know for a fact you’ll never do this?
We both know you pulled this information out of your dumb, ignorant, alcoholic ass. When you are ready to grow up and deal with reality, find me real, objective, verifiable statistics from reliable sources and then we can talk.
I do not have to follow the scientific method to prove to you that I will not crash into a building and explode after having a beer.
No one is talking about anecdotal examples involving a single beer. What we are talking about is the objective reality that high blood alcohol levels lead to impairment which endangers lives.
It is a social good that idiots who drive drunk can get arrested and punished. End of story.
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Actually the burden of proof is on you. I gave you a fact and you’re unable to refute it. I’m not doing your homework for you, just so you can have more ammo to further obfuscate and keep dodging the question. Google is at your disposal. Research it yourself.
I already explained how the results of those studies are used as propaganda by organizations like MADD and the department of transportation, as well as the auto industry. If you can’t see that the real cause of driving deaths is having a billion cars on the road instead of “drunk driving” then you are refusing to see the forest for the trees. this is what happens when you defund public transportation and instead blame deaths on “drunk driving” rather than an out of control industry that is killing people and destroying the Earth.
So I’m going to repeat this fact again: 99.999% of drunk drivers do not kill anyone. If you can DISPROVE this then go ahead, THE BURDEN IS ON YOU. Again, you’re just proving me right that you’ll never ever be able do this.
Also the fact that you refuse to believe that people’s lives have been ruined by fake DWI accusations just means you’re a potential bootlicker. who is supporting these unconstitutional and terrible laws.
I already explained how the results of those studies are used as propaganda by organizations like MADD and the department of transportation, as well as the auto industry. If you can’t see that the real cause of driving deaths is having a billion cars on the road instead of “drunk driving” then you are refusing to see the forest for the trees. this is what happens when you defund public transportation and instead blame deaths on “drunk driving” rather than an out of control industry that is killing people and destroying the Earth.
So I’m going to repeat this fact again: 99.999% of drunk drivers do not kill anyone. If you can DISPROVE this then go ahead, THE BURDEN IS ON YOU. Again, you’re just proving me right that you’ll never ever be able do this.
Also the fact that you refuse to believe that people’s lives have been ruined by fake DWI accusations just means you’re a potential bootlicker. who is supporting these unconstitutional and terrible laws.
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Actually the burden of proof is on you. I gave you a fact and you’re unable to refute it.
You gave me no facts, fuckwit. You just pulled an assertion out of your ass and expected everyone to simply accept it.
I already explained how the results of those studies are used as propaganda by organizations like MADD and the department of transportation, as well as the auto industry.
You didn't explain shit, you dumb ass clown. You simply made an assertion with absolutely no evidence to back it up. None. Zip. Zero.
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If it’s an “assertion” then prove it wrong fuckhead. That’s how the scientific method works. You disprove a theory with more evidence to the contrary. That is, unless you’re afraid to.
Go on, I’m waiting….
Go on, I’m waiting….
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If it’s an “assertion” then prove it wrong fuckhead. That’s how the scientific method works.
You have a five year old's understanding of how scholarship and the scientific method work.
YOU are the one making claims that pretend to be facts. YOU are therefore the one to back up what you say with evidence. That's how these things work in the world of educated adults.
You can't do any of this because you pulled everything you say out of your ignorant, deluded alcoholic ass. End of story.
So until you become serious and actually meet your obligation to provide evidence to back up your numbers and other claims, as far as I've concerned you have conceded the argument, lost completely, and I have nothing more to say here.
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Do you have any evidence I “pulled this out of my ass”? You’re a hypocrite, you keep asking for proof without providing any of yours to the contrary.
I have done the research. 99.9999% of drunk drivers never kill anyone. Maybe you should look it up for yourself, I’m not doing your homework for you.
I have done the research. 99.9999% of drunk drivers never kill anyone. Maybe you should look it up for yourself, I’m not doing your homework for you.
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I don't think subjective is the right word for it. I think maybe relative would be better.
Yeah, there are some people who drive drunk and are perfectly capable of operating a motor vehicle. But there's still more of a chance that they'd be involved in a major accident while drunk since alcohol does impair your cognitive and motor functions to a degree no matter what. I mean, there's definitely a difference between when I drive completely sober and when I drive with a few drinks in me.
And that's why it's called drunk driving.
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Yeah, there are some people who drive drunk and are perfectly capable of operating a motor vehicle. But there's still more of a chance that they'd be involved in a major accident while drunk since alcohol does impair your cognitive and motor functions to a degree no matter what. I mean, there's definitely a difference between when I drive completely sober and when I drive with a few drinks in me.
And that's why it's called drunk driving.
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Yes, relative is a good word for it.
I could see drinking increasing your chances of having an accident maybe by .0001% or something, but that’s almost impossible to quantify. There are so many other variables.
If anything, people would be more inclined to drive carefully after drinking because they’re aware their reaction times could be dulled, so this would offset any effect of the alcohol increasing the chances of an accident.
At the end of the day there’s always a chance that anything and everything will go wrong. You could be driving sober and your tire could blow out and kill someone, at the end of the day it’s not worth worrying about what might happen or not.
Obviously an exception to this would be someone drinking so much they start passing out and vomiting, but that would be alcohol poisoning. I wouldn’t expect them to drive the way I wouldn’t expect someone who had suffered a traumatic brain injury to try getting behind the wheel. At that point it becomes something else.
I could see drinking increasing your chances of having an accident maybe by .0001% or something, but that’s almost impossible to quantify. There are so many other variables.
If anything, people would be more inclined to drive carefully after drinking because they’re aware their reaction times could be dulled, so this would offset any effect of the alcohol increasing the chances of an accident.
At the end of the day there’s always a chance that anything and everything will go wrong. You could be driving sober and your tire could blow out and kill someone, at the end of the day it’s not worth worrying about what might happen or not.
Obviously an exception to this would be someone drinking so much they start passing out and vomiting, but that would be alcohol poisoning. I wouldn’t expect them to drive the way I wouldn’t expect someone who had suffered a traumatic brain injury to try getting behind the wheel. At that point it becomes something else.
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This isn't debatable. It is a fact that intoxication hinders shit like reaction time. There's nothing to argue. You're retarded.
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Lots of stuff “hinders reaction time.” Being tired, or rubbing your eyes, adjusting the radio, texting, or not having your hands at 10 & 2 literally every second of the drive. If you do any of those things then you’re also guilty of bad driving.
Doesn’t change the fact that everyone does those things and 99.9999% of drunk drivers never hurt anyone.
That’s why there’s no such thing as “drunk driving,” just shitty driving or good driving. Which one are you?
Doesn’t change the fact that everyone does those things and 99.9999% of drunk drivers never hurt anyone.
That’s why there’s no such thing as “drunk driving,” just shitty driving or good driving. Which one are you?
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Yes, and those are bad things too.
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There are all kinds of different distracted driving. A sober, responsible person does not drive impaired.
There’s no such thing as “drunk driving”
There’s only shitty driving or good driving, whether you’re stoned or sober.