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Possible Goof not mentioned…

According to this movie errors page it says:

Error: During flying, Maverick and Goose fly closely in tandem, with one plane upside down. This is totally impossible in real life. The back wings of the planes would collide, causing a fatal crash.

http://dwjx78790mroz.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/30142758/Maverick-And-Goose-Tom-Cruise-Top-Gun-Inverted-With-Mig-1280-Wallpaper-2.jpg

http://www.sportingz.com/opinions/41-huge-mistakes-youve-never-noticed-favourite-films/23/

So is this correct? Would the back wings collide?

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I think it is possible, just not at that range. Mav and goose stated that it was about two meters which is roughly six feet. I don't know the exact height of the F14's vertical stabilizers (I will check my supplements later), but I'm sure it's a lot longer than six feet. That "MIG" would be falling to earth minus it's horizontal stabilizers.

That said, at airshows you will see the Blue Angels doing similar maneuvers, hana.

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10ft 2 inches.
You'd know that if you really were a tomcat pilot you stolen valor asshat.

A total of 16 feet even from ground to the top of the vertical stabilizers.
And a total of 10ft 8in from one stabilizer tip to the other.

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I will check my supplements later


So you mean you'll do a search of Google and Wikipedia?

You really made a fool of yourself Daddy_Tej! Claiming to be a former "Mahreen aviator" you should know the measurements of the F-14 even though the USMC didn't operate them you would still would have seen them on the Carrier deck. Then again it's all moot as you've never been anywhere near an Aircraft Carrier. Stick to the safety of watching your UK soaps!

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you hit the nail on the head when you said USMC didn't operate the F-14, hana

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you hit the nail on the head when you said USMC didn't operate the F-14, hana


Well since you CLAIM and blatantly LIE to being a former "Mahreen aviator" of JET powered carrier based A/C not helos and it's hilarious that even though you would have seen US Navy F-14s on the Carrier decks EVERYDAY on a Cruises/Deployments yet you write: "I don't know the exact height of the F-14s vertical stabilizers" nor can give any other specifications! Come on! Can't you work Google or Wikipedia any more?

So which aircraft did you fly for the US "Mahreen" Corps again, I forgot hana?

CGSailor can clear this up but I have no doubt that US Navy and US Marine Corps Aviators are taught in Basic Flight School not only the dimensions of their Carrier capable A/C (even prop A/C like the C-2 Greyhound) they are flying but even other types of A/C even from the USAF too so they know how close they can fly to them either in the air or back on the carrier deck.

BTW Did anyone tell you have a face like a dropped pie?

Carry on Hana and back to your UK Soap for women which you wouldn't be able to watch without the bravery of the real men and women of Western Nations Armed Forces serving around the World's hotspots and those bent on destroying our free way of life, Hana.


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why are you lamb basting me? i never said anything bad to you, hana

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why are you lamb basting me?

Racialist mans probley, buna

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WTF are "back wings"? LMAO!

If he is referring to the VERTICAL STABILIZERS... then yes.. he is sort of correct.

Vertical Stabilizers are not "back wings"


Nor would the vertical stabilizers collide with each other. the Tomcat is long enough that in the positions shown in the photo, it's Vertical stabilizers would not only be aft of the F-5, but also clear it to either side.

However... the Vertical Stabilizer of the F-5 would have collided into the top of the tomcat right about where it's beavertail speed brake is. By about 2 feet.




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WTF are "back wings"? LMAO!

If he is referring to the VERTICAL STABILIZERS... then yes.. he is sort of correct.

Vertical Stabilizers are not "back wings"


Don't shoot the messenger, I know that whoever wrote the article was referring to the vertical fins or correctly the vertical "stabilisers".

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http://i.imgur.com/VFbU5qn.jpg

I suppose it's technically/theoretically possible, but the F-5's vertical tail would come awfully close to scraping the F-14's topside (we're talking maybe a half-foot clearance).


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There is no way they could fly that close just for the fact the air flow would be all fkd up , the planes woukdnt fly perfectly parallel...any pocket of turbulence and they smash into each other. Pure Hollywood crap. Even Kelly McGinnis said it was impossible lol

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They are not directly on top of each other in these formations. They are offset and overlapping wing tips. Being directly on top of each other as shown in the film IS impossible.

Even if the vertical stabilizers were not a factor... the airflow between the air-frames would act as a venturi and the lower air pressure would suck the planes together into a Mid-air collision.

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http://i.imgur.com/SL9sKsQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zIEmiux.jpg

Is a [roughly] 9 ft. separation between the F-5's wings/stabs and F-14's topside small enough to cause this black hole-like venturi effect you speak of?... Especially considering the F-5's [tiny] wings are only partially overlapping the F-14 (2nd pic)?

Sorry, but I've seen you make more than a few grandiose assertions before that were flat out wrong.

Not saying you're wrong in this particular case, but if it's all the same to you, I'd rather see a wind-tunnel sim of this scenario before declaring "myth busted."

(Even engineers with decades of experience draw wrong conclusions sometimes.)


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Wow a real clash of the titans when it comes to jet fighter specifications and images. So are we calling this myth busted, plausible and confirmed? lol

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The Venturi effect may be questionable, but keep in mind the F-14 has a relatively wide lifting body fuselage, it's not just the wings alone providing lift.

As far as the Vertical stabs are concerned... your pic validates MY statements.

a) The tomcat's Vertical Stabs are behind and to either side and not a collision hazard.
b) the F-5's Stab is impacting the strongback of the Tomcat about or just forward of the Speedbrake.

One error in the front view is that you have the aircraft slightly too far apart vertically. At that scale, the canopies should be about 3/4 that distance. to match the film screenshot.
This would most certainly have the vertical stab impacting the Tomcat.


Sorry, but I've seen you make more than a few grandiose assertions before that were flat out wrong.

Excuse me? but where?
I never claim to be perfect or know everything and yes I have been wrong on occasion, but "Grandiose assertions that are flat out wrong...?
That is utter bullsh!t and antagonistic of you.




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No it would not be close, the F-5's stabiliser would penetrate more than 2 feet into the dorsal of the Tomcat.

The Tomcat's tail on the otherhand would still be aft of the F-5's tail as well as to either side.

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the F-5's stabiliser would penetrate more than 2 feet into the dorsal of the Tomcat.



The jets in that pic are both in the same scale (~7px/ft).

With a ~5-ft canopy separation, and as long as both planes remain nose-to-nose, the F-5's vertical tail won't come close to "penetrat[ing] more than 2 feet into the dorsal of the Tomcat."


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