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The origin of COVID

I’ll describe the two theories, explain why each is plausible, and then ask which provides the better explanation of the available facts. It’s important to note that so far there is no direct evidence for either theory. Each depends on a set of reasonable conjectures but so far lacks proof. So I have only clues, not conclusions, to offer. But those clues point in a specific direction. And having inferred that direction, I’m going to delineate some of the strands in this tangled skein of disaster.
https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/

The only question is what Martin Rees had to do with it.


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That muhfuckin Chinavirus, mayne.

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It was either:

1. A lab accident where a virus escaped.

2. A deliberate bio attack on the world by the ChiComs. OR

3. Chinese eating bats in a wet market.

I tend to lean towards #2, but take your pick, and good luck. You'll never be able to prove any of these.



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A bio attack against the world would be a risky move for China since they were the epicenter of the pandemic and even if they had not been the epicenter it would have found its way there eventually. And if you pick a fight with the entire world like that you probably want to knock them down for good but the virus wasn't deadly enough.

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China would not have the balls. Asians are known for having inferior genitals, that is why they over excel at almost everything else. Do you think they would be 75 years ahead of us in terms of tech if they all had massive cocks? No, they would be dumb like black people and constantly getting in the way of white peoples knees.

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Omg..lol!

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Yes it would, but I wouldn't put it past the ChiComs, since they don't give a shit about their own people. Their "Communist Revolution" is more important to them. An estimated 2,000,000 Chinese died in the so called "Cultural Revolution" alone.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/11/the-cultural-revolution-50-years-on-all-you-need-to-know-about-chinas-political-convulsion



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nope, rural farmers caught it first, they scoop bat shit from caves for fertilizer

Beep Boop Beep!

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That's another possibility.



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If they didn't do it, they were thinking it!

Chinese scientists have been preparing for a Third World War fought with biological and genetic weapons including coronavirus for the last six years, according to a document obtained by US investigators.

The bombshell paper, accessed by the US State Department, insists they will be 'the core weapon for victory' in such a conflict, even outlining the perfect conditions to release a bioweapon, and documenting the impact it would have on 'the enemy's medical system'.

From the always reliable Daily Mail: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9556415/China-preparing-WW3-biological-weapons-six-years-investigators-say.html

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Fuckin A

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I predicted an event like 911 was going to happen a pretty good amount of time before it did.

That's because in the Muslim world for about a year or so there were attacks on ancient ruins, the Taliban was going nuts against women and gays, an Egyptian pilot nosedived a jet into the ocean, there was an attack on a navy ships, etc. I saw it brewing and since I know Islam, I figured something big would happen, and I was right.

The year before corona I saw on several tech news sites that Chinese scientists were getting arrested for unethical and weird experiments. That last one was a monkey human hybrid thing one guy got arrested for.

With Islam, probably several people that believe in magic influenced people and figured that a holy war would get magic results, and they were the cause of 911 and the aftermath.

In science, if you get a bunch of people together that have no ethics, they will experiment on people. That has happened countless times in modern history. There MANY medical conspiracies that were real where doctors did what they wanted because to them results are more important than people.

So, as soon as Corona hit and people were saying it had new effects and whatnot, I instantly thought of the news from china about arrested unethical researchers.

It's my belief that very similar events to 12 Monkeys occurred. I believe a rogue scientist made the virus and released just to see what would happen.

I don't think "China" did it but rather the same type of guy that was making monkey humans did it. I assume that working in a virus lab, plenty in Wohan, would create a very easy situation where a crazy person could make and release a virus.

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There was no need for a rogue scientist to create the virus because the lab was already creating them out in the open. It could be that a rogue scientist released it but that is also unnecessary.

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Well, that's similar and good enough for me.

The only reason I added that a scientist created it was because of the trend of arrests for Chinese sceintists creating things in labs, and getting arrested for it.

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I wonder if those arrests, such as of the CRISPR scientist, are not for what they did but that they did it in public.

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I don't know.

All medical conspiracies, real ones, that I read about have been done by cells of people in organizations. That or just one doctor.

For a cell, the group has to get busted and with a group there's more protection. For one person, it's wy easier to get in trouble.

If a whole government was doing it, they might fake some arrests to make it look like they aren't doing it.

It's impossible to tell with this stuff until it's all over.

But for real, if I had some kind of virus machine, I would spend time figuring out how I could make myself super human by inserting genes. Even if it weren't possible, I'd be working on it somehow.

The temptation is huge regarding biological stuff, I would imagine.

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That is very interesting observation. Wow.🙂

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For real, shortly before 911 I was in NYC with my gf at the time. we were close to the Twin Towers and I looked up and saw this huge jet going over. I wondered to myself why they let planes anywhere near a big city and I felt a feeling of dread.

I can see it in my mind right now.

But, like I said, for over a year, Muslims were doing all kinds of shit and since they are liars they denied suicides and attacks meant anything. However, they did mean something and it was a gear up to an attempted take over of the mideast.

That's how big things happen, a bunch of little things rev people up to do something heinous.

When I read about Chinese scientists doing weird medical experiments I was like, some new generation of people over there does not give a shit about research limits and something is brewing. THEN corona hits and OTHER PEOPLE thought it was manmade, so why is that?

In years where we had bad flus they all come from China, mostly from birds, and no one said they were manmade. But, the year I thought it was manmade others in the media started saying it to.

That is funny to me.

I do not believe the Chinese government did it though.

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When I read about Chinese scientists doing weird medical experiments I was like, some new generation of people over there does not give a shit about research limits and something is brewing. THEN corona hits and OTHER PEOPLE thought it was manmade, so why is that?

Your instincts were pretty much on target. I also sensed there was trouble brewing in the science community as well as in psychiatry because I also noticed clear and extreme violations in ethical practices regarding experiences and research.

I might have mentioned it on imdb years ago. It was a hot topic because back then there were social experiments done on members of IMDb right there on the site in real time.

I protested and protested to dead ears.

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YO!

Several years ago I noticed that "fun quizzes" on facebook were covert psych tests. That turned out to be true!

That was all part of the whole data mining thing with them and some company whose name is slipping my mind.

The quizzes were like "What Kind of Wizard Would You Be!" and stuff like which seemed silly and a fun post. But, I noticed the questions were much like the MMPI which is a personality test in psych.

Basically, the quizzes were an attempt to create a psych profile anyone that used them.

Recently there was an "old age" app on facebook where it ages your picture. That was a Russian company looking to gain facial recognition data about the anyone that would use the app.

We are getting in this age of weirdos being in power like autistic types and Schizoid Personality Disorder (computer nerds) and they do not like other humans. But, they are quiet, smart, sneaky types. The guy that runs facebook and the crew that new Reddit look like human rejects, and they know they are, thus all of these covert attacks.

In addition, the biomedical experiments are actually common in history. You cannot trust some autistic type, born to not feel anything for humans, we ethics about not mistreating humans.

IQ tests and such were actually invented to not let people like this into important jobs, but they stopped using them very much. So, autistic guy wants to see what happens when he poisons people, and he does not have the brain development to not know why he shouldn't.

I don't care much for these bizarre hazards.

On a side note, I was talking to a friend of mine on the street and my phone was in my pocket. He mentioned that he and his wife went to some bizarrely named town in NY. It was like Scniklehausensteinenheim.

I'm making that up but it was this long crazy name. I get back in my car and I'm looking something up on my phone. I decided to check facebook and there was an ad, Would you like to visit Scniklehausensteinenheim!

So, my phone had to be listening to our conversation. There is no way in hell that was a coincidence and I never get ads about visiting places.

That shit is sinister and needs to be controlled.

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YO!

Several years ago I noticed that "fun quizzes" on facebook were covert psych tests. That turned out to be true!

That was all part of the whole data mining thing with them and some company whose name is slipping my mind.

The quizzes were like "What Kind of Wizard Would You Be!" and stuff like which seemed silly and a fun post. But, I noticed the questions were much like the MMPI which is a personality test in psych.

Basically, the quizzes were an attempt to create a psych profile anyone that used them.


Recently there was an "old age" app on facebook where it ages your picture. That was a Russian company looking to gain facial recognition data about the anyone that would use the app.

We are getting in this age of weirdos being in power like autistic types and Schizoid Personality Disorder (computer nerds) and they do not like other humans. But, they are quiet, smart, sneaky types. The guy that runs facebook and the crew that new Reddit look like human rejects, and they know they are, thus all of these covert attacks.

In addition, the biomedical experiments are actually common in history. You cannot trust some autistic type, born to not feel anything for humans, we ethics about not mistreating humans.

IQ tests and such were actually invented to not let people like this into important jobs, but they stopped using them very much. So, autistic guy wants to see what happens when he poisons people, and he does not have the brain development to not know why he shouldn't.

I don't care much for these bizarre hazards.

🙂 But I don't think Autism make a person want to experiment on others. People that have autism don't care enough about people to want to experiment on other people.



I'm making that up but it was this long crazy name. I get back in my car and I'm looking something up on my phone. I decided to check facebook and there was an ad, Would you like to visit Scniklehausensteinenheim!

So, my phone had to be listening to our conversation. There is no way in hell that was a coincidence and I never get ads about visiting places.

That shit is sinister and needs to be controlled




Wait until you realise we are all being recorded for marketing purposes and you information ransomed.

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For real, I am either talking to my gf or about work all day long.

I have wondered about work stuff. It's confidential and so illegal to record me talking about patients and things like that. SOOO are they committing crimes recording healthcare people?

I have a firestick and that has Alexa, so are they recording me talking about cases all day?

Autistic People:

There's supposed to be autistic people who are very high functioning and excellent and specific tasks but don't have people skills because people are not important to them.

Some of the symptoms of Aspergers, which is a discontinued diagnosis, are really weird. For instance, it's come for them to say things like "I love the couch like it's my grandmother" but they don't act like they love their actual grandmother.

So, imagine someone like that building a bomb or studying biology.

There's something called Schizoid Personality Disorder. That's say a skinny and not good looking guy who is mentally normal but everyone kind of rejects. Dad is disappointed you aren't a football player, your mom doesn't have many expectations, the other kids ignore you, you know you have no chance with girls, and so on. So, you end up developing an "autistic like" personality.

People like this tend to get involved in complex private study, like computers.

Although they seem "shy" really at the core of it is a hatred of people.

This is the "computer nerd" type of person. I seem them dominating social media, censoring discussion that normal fearless people are okay with, moniting us secretly, and so on.

I was asked for feedback from Facebook recently and I mentioned the stalker ads. I said I wanted to support facebook and they can just ask me directly about ads. I will be happy to answer or choose. They do not have to secretly monitor me.

I told them I turned off targeted ads due to them being sneaky.

If you take a Schiziod person put them in charge of viruses, etc and they secretly hate people but are great at their job, what kind of sinister shit could happen?!

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Honestly I think you should leave. I mean I understand you like movies and all, but you really need to get out of here. You allowed a breech of privacy to your patients. You have put them in harm's way.


That's the main reason why I don't like psychology. Your profession was meant to destroy the mind of people. It's not to help them. The medications do more harm than good and it contributes to their early death. You make the entire public afraid of other people when normally people usually ignore crazy. I understand wanting to stop potential serial killers but you use it for other means as well. Marketing, gang stalking and so forth.


Psychology is like having a loaded gun around.

You need to get the hell out of here.

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Put down the crack pipe.

The question if Amazon and facebook are recording my healthcare activities has nothing to do with me and is a systemic problem if true.

The second thing you said is because you are evil. Criminals always said the same thing that I'm there to call people crazy.

I used to remind them that they are the ones who created psychology because nice people want to figure out how to deal with their crazy bullshit.

Normal mentally healthy people view psychology as something to learn about like going to the gym for you mind. Evil slobs and selfish people look at going to the gym as a waste or stupid and the same thing about improving your mind.

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Put down the crack pipe.

The question if Amazon and facebook are recording my healthcare activities has nothing to do with me and is a systemic problem if true.

Stfu, ASSHOLE. THAT'S WHY YOU ARE TOO CHICKEN TO SAY ALL OF THIS TO MY FACE CUZ YOU KNOW THAT I WILL TEAR A HUGE CHUNK OF YOUR FACE OFF!!!

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I would slap the shit out of you like you probably do your kids.

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Normal mentally healthy people view psychology as something to learn about like going to the gym for you mind. Evil slobs and selfish people look at going to the gym as a waste or stupid and the same thing about improving your mind.

Well you aren't normal. You aren't healthy. Most people don't care about psychology. They care about their jobs and family. They leave people alone.

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Nobody is making human-monkey hybrids. You're reading the supermarket tabloids again at the supermarket checkout.

"Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly." Morticia Addams

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You are a retard.

It was in the news and you can probably google it.

He was creating human monkey hybrid cells.

There was in fact a news article last week about the same thing.

I will tell you what syndrome you're getting into. I am vastly smarter than you, it threatens you, so now you follow me around telling me I am stupid, to make yourself feel better.

But, I can tell you this, I am extremely smart, very well educated, and never ever say things I can't back up and don't research.

Welcome to feeling badly about yourself, lol.

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I don't "follow you around." You are so arrogant. This is a message board. People post, "new" posts pop up, and others reply. You're no more special or worthy.

Nice try chump, but I don't feel badly about myself one bit. But I do think you're making a fool of yourself.

"Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly." Morticia Addams

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You are a human monkey hybrid.

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I don't think "China" did it but rather the same type of guy that was making monkey humans did it. I assume that working in a virus lab, plenty in Wohan, would create a very easy situation where a crazy person could make and release a virus.

That's Wuhan, son.

"Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly." Morticia Addams

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Wuhan is a city dedicated to medical research, you fucking tard.

Also, you're man?

Right?

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It definitely came from the Wuhan Lab. They covered it up.


Mean people suck.

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The leaked virus from the lab seems as obvious as dogs balls to me.
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