Politics : A rational case for voter fraud from a diehard liberal and Trump hater

I think Donald Trump is a dangerous man and want Joe Biden to be president, but I also want the vote to be fair. Not everyone feels it was. Are they crazy? A rigged election does seems like a pretty crazy thing to believe… except actually it's not. If you believe any of the following:

~The 1960 election was stolen (it probably was)
~The 2000 election was stolen (it clearly was)
~The 2004 election was stolen (it possibly was)
~There was a conspiracy to kill JFK (most believe)
~The US covered up the attack on the USS Liberty (many believe)
~The Bush administration lied about WMD to justify the Iraq War (they did)
~The government often lies to the public (they do)

Then you already believe in ideas that can be classified as "crazy." It means you believe there are corrupt agents at the highest levels of power that use their position to engage in significant deception and commit criminal acts. It's not much of a stretch to believe they did it again here.

Why would they? Because the establishment hates Trump. He has spoken out strongly against the FBI, the CIA, the military industrial complex; against some of the most powerful organizations in the world in ways that no one else in his position ever has. They don't want him as president. With that in mind, the election begins to look a little fishy.

Why are these late states taking so long to count when the others were completed so quickly?

Why in these earlier called battlegrounds states did Trump perform equal to better than he did in 2016, but is performing worse in these slower counting states?

Why did we not see this mail-in ballot "blue shift" in Ohio, Florida, Texas, or any of the early called states? Why did it only begin to occur late in states Biden absolutely needed to win?

Why does the length of time it takes to count seem to correspond with how many votes Biden is down by and needs to make up? He wasn't down by as much in Wisconsin and it took a few hours to finish. He was down by more in Michigan and it took a day to count. He was down by the most in Pennsylvania and it still isn't done counting.

Why do these states that Biden needs seem to magically finish counting as soon as Biden takes a lead?

Trump may be a fraud and a liar, but he is correct when he says that the widespread mail-in balloting this year has the potential to make election fraud easier. You just wait to see how the results are, and if you don't like them, you introduce enough extra ballots under the guise of "mail-ins" and no one suspects a thing.

Now I'm not saying massive vote fraud actually occurred, but if this vote turnaround was happening to the Democratic candidate, you know liberals would be the ones screaming "Fraud!" I know I would. It's pretty damn suspicious.

I think Donald Trump is a dangerous man and want Joe Biden to be president, but I also want the vote to be fair.

Trump may be a fraud and a liar,

🙄 Anyway, nobody had a problem with liars and corruption before Donald Trump became president. Nobody had a problem with Donald Trump before he became president and while he had a hit tv series that focused on giving charity cuz he was in the position where

could afford to do so.

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Most of what you outlined wouldn't be rational to believe because most of it has never been proven. You can have suspicions that election fraud took place, but you need evidence. Richard Nixon, Al Gore, and John Kerry all had questions about whether their elections were stolen, but they never publicly voiced those concerns at the time because it would be highly irresponsible to so when you have no proof. As Al Gore stated last night, the only option after that is violent revolution, so these men put their country before their egos and conceded defeat. It is what a rational adult would do. Donald Trump is doing the opposite.

Al Gore waited 37 days to put his Country before him you sniveling douche. And today Biden just went ahead.

So The President has another 5 weeks to seek whatever legal remedy he and his team see fit

And Kerry election wasn't even close. So GTFO with your bull sh it.

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Gore never suggested the voting was fraudulent. There was an automatic recount because the votes were so close that a recount was mandated by Florida law. Irregularities were discovered in the vote so then Al Gore asked for a manual recount. Considering he was on course to win the state and presidency before the Supreme Court stepped in, Gore didn't fight hard enough. More Floridians intended to vote for Al Gore that day than Bush. In this 2020 election, there is no evidence of fraud or irregularities. Trump is just upset he lost so he's trying to claim it was stolen. The danger is some of his supporters are so dumb they will actually believe it.

The 2004 election was very close. It came down to 100,000 votes in a single state, Ohio.

Thankfully there is tons of factual evidence so what you are saying is meaningless. They are checking the voter roles and they found 21,000 dead people voted in Michigan alone. This is only the beginning.

The Dems used Computer software made by the C.I.A. to overturn elections in other Countries. Only this time they did it in this country.

6,000 Trump votes switched to Biden votes in just 1 County in Michigan. This is not going to be difficult.

You guys along with the Biden Campaign and the Media are all gonna look foolish for celebrating so early.

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There was probably fraud, but don't expect anything to be done about it. They will get away with it. They always do.

Part 2 of this story to follow.

Ohio was allowed to count mailed ballots as they came in. They just weren't allowed to divulge the results until after polls closed.

Floridian Trump supporters were told by Trump to mail their ballots in, which caused mailed ballots to be more equal.

If 70% of mailed ballots are democratic, and those ballots are counted after election-day ballots, and the state is close but ultimately won by democrats, it is only possible for that state to be red until the very end. It's basic math.

In Arizona, we're kinda seeing the opposite. Since Arizona was McCain country, it went for Biden early. The last two days they've been counting ballots that were neither early nor were they election-day ballots, but were ballots mailed on the day of the election. They favor Trump, but only by about 60%. We were seeing Arizona blue this whole time, but will either end up red at the end or will end up much closer to red, all due to the types of ballots that were counted last.

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Yes, it's not rocket science.
The GOP needs to get a life.

If 70% of mailed ballots are democratic, and those ballots are counted after election-day ballots, and the state is close but ultimately won by democrats, it is only possible for that state to be red until the very end. It's basic math.

If.

If.

It's already been established that mail in votes are overwhelmingly Democratic, so this is not a stretch. Grow up and deal with reality.

It is impossible for ballot fraud or voter fraud to have switched the winner from Trump to Biden. Trump knows it.

The only way the rightful winner gets flipped in favor to the loser is through the court system, which Trump is trying to accomplish right now, but won't be able to because it was impossible for voter fraud to have switched the outcome.

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“ Why does Math Math so hard In Joe Biden’s favor?”

This is how I translate your diatribe into English the more evolved chimps can understand .

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"You had me at Elk Tartare"
-Erin Wotherspoon

Who cares if it was stolen? The good guys won!

That's the spirit!

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It's time to start winding this thing down.

I'm not sure if this was posted already:

A United States Postal Service worker who made claims of mail-in ballot tampering in Pennsylvania — which Senator Lindsey Graham called for investigation into — recanted his allegations Monday.

The USPS employee, identified as Richard Hopkins, signed a sworn affidavit alleging ballot tampering and fraud. In the affidavit, the postal worker alleged that postal supervisory officials hatched a plan to backdate ballots mailed after the election.

The Oversight Committee said Hopkins was interviewed by investigators Friday and Monday recanted the allegations without saying why he signed a false affidavit. There is no word if Hopkins will face perjury charges.

Lindsey Graham received a copy of the affidavit and called for an investigation into the matter.

Russia got Hillary not to win?

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Mom's Chinese-Indonesian … ?
Dad's American ¼ Irish (Celtic) French German ¼ Irish Swiss German French Dutch … ?

Anything is possible.

Again, Democrats lost house seats and lost a whole bunch of senate races they were favored to win. You still haven’t shown us how this fact correlates with election fraud.

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"You had me at Elk Tartare"
-Erin Wotherspoon