Winona Ryder : Loses Best Female Actor, Wins Best Ensemble Cast-YAY!!!!

Loses Best Female Actor, Wins Best Ensemble Cast-YAY!!!!

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She flipped her wig!

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Only you could phrase it like that, Wig!

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If she has done it literally, that would have something else.

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Absolutely hilarious. Well deserved win. The whole cast was off their rockers celebrating! Can't help but love the group.

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The kids' reactions were hilarious, but what was up with Winona's weird facial expressions? She looked scared, mad, surprised, drunk, lol!

BTW:

Love Stranger Things for the kids; they're great!

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I think it was the combination of adrenaline and alcohol. This is the first big award she's won in a while and based on the shot of her when they announced she was not expecting that win. Plus that speech was nuts!

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LMAO @adrenaline and alcohol.

She looked like D Trump just grabbed her by the MEOW!!!

And that was the BEST speech of the night!

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Both Harbour and Ryder were OFF THE EFFING WALL!!!!

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That speech was a tad wacky, yes. But Winona sure knows how to grab the spotlight when she wants.

VIDEO: What's Winona Ryder going through?

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Ha ha! Winona is the best! I love her expressions! Absolutely priceless!!

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I was waiting to see what your take on it would be, Domwood! :D

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Well I'm the guy (er- -puppet) that watches Winona's scenes in freeze frame and counts facial expressions. In this case, there were apparently 28 different expressions in 56 seconds - but I think they missed half of them with those screen shots!! Winona is hopelessly adorable!

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Great news, finally she won something!
Thank god the Crown wasn't an ensemble cast, otherwise they too would have snatched it.
What about the actress who played Barb? She wasn't initially nominated was she but she was there, finally she got justice.
What is is with the speech? Was he the only one supposed to speak? No one else said anything.
It's sad no 2000 w everyone feels they have to politicise everything and bring up Trump, refugees, immigrants, etc. It's an award show not a rally/demosntration, you're actors, stop lecturing people about who to vote for or how to think. Ugh, it's 2003 all over again. I wonder what the Oscars are going to be like this year.

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The Crown was up for Best Ensemble as well but Stranger Things beat it on the collective strength of it's child cast if I had to wager. And yep, Shannon Purser was up on stage along with everyone else even though she wasn't officially nominated.

As far as the speech was concerned, I read that Harbour reviewed it with the cast beforehand and although he changed it slightly when he delivered it, they all knew that it was going to be a political speech. Also, I imagine that Harbour got the duty since Ryder was up for an individual award and they didn't want her to have to give two speeches if she won Best Female Actor. And actors have every right to speak their mind, especially with everything that's going on in this country just in the past week. I never bought into the argument that actors shouldn't be allowed to voice their opinions just because they're actors.

On an unrelated note, glad to see you're still around, WF2! :) Haven't seen you around the board in awhile. (Then again, there hasn't been much happening, Winona-wise, for the past couple weeks.)

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The saving grace was that he really spoke in bromides, generalities and platitudes, which sounded impressive, but wasn't all that direct. It wasn't anywhere near as offensive as what we heard in that silly Meryl Streep speech earlier in the month.

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Agree
Any thougth

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Stranger Things beat it on the collective strength of it's child cast if I had to wager


Yeah I think you're right.


And actors have every right to speak their mind, especially with everything that's going on in this country just in the past week. I never bought into the argument that actors shouldn't be allowed to voice their opinions just because they're actors.


Yes, they can speak their mind, but that is not the right platform. It's an award show. I just don't know why people bring things up that have nothing to do with what they are there for, other than to maybe influence or get listened to by people watching. It started fine, talking about the theme of the series and then he he segwayed into the current crisis. There are proper demonstrations or other evens for that.
I think it's also rich to say that when you're at a stage wearing an expensive designer dress pulling over from a limousine that drove you from your Beverly Hills mansion. Not talking about David Harbour here, but I am sure many times there is an element of vanity, attention seeking in that.


glad to see you're still around


Yeah, I actually went away for a few days and I did not have my computer with me. Not that a lot happened Winona-wise as you say. Thanks for cheering to that :-)

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is there some link so i can also watch and listen too her speech? they didnt aire it here

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I mean her

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Thank you, winonaforever2, I agree with everything you say. I don't need to be lectured about politics by anyone, and neither do any of us, really.

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Winona was the best thing of the SAG Awards shows, that was trully boring.
I think she acted for the kids, and have fun.-

I like Mr. Julia Stiles speech, was funny and not rude as was Streep and others.-
Any thougth

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Video of speech: https://youtu.be/kfdjFNZ3FeI

Oh. My. God. Guys, you know I love her but this is a total cringefest! The speech itself and the audience going wild for it are hilarious enough but her "contribution" takes it to another level entirely.

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The speech was a complete "WTF" moment, and a few of Winona's expressions captured that emotion splendidly!

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It was like she was supporting someone at a political rally in a foreign country and wasn't totally fluent in the language. So bizarre.

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Yeah you're right about that. I sort of thought her expressions indicated she was supportive of part of it, not supportive of a lot of it, but thought she should pretend to be supportive even though she wasn't supportive - and doing all of this while nearly drunk on her butt. 😀

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But some of the bits she was pulling "Huh?" faces at weren't when he was making a point, like "It's difficult to celebrate the already celebrated Stranger Things".

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The speech was a masterpiece in word salad. Winona's onstage reaction was perfect.

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It was too vague to be a proper anti-Trump or anti-Muslim ban speech. But since she's a natural big-hearted liberal, I can't imagine there's anything in it she disagreed with. So her alternating between "wtf?" and "yeah, right on!" expressions is rather confusing.

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Maybe she's not so liberal? One has to spout liberal bromides in order to work in Hollywood, but she doesn't exactly go out of her way to use her stardom to promote liberal causes.

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She's from a pretty left wing family background, had Tim Leary as a godfather and has supported causes like West Memphis 3, Amnesty International and the Native American College fund. I'd say it's very unlikely she's ever voted republican.

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Round parents tend to have square babies - or something like that. Remember from the Charlie Rose interview? She meant it.

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Which Charlie Rose interview? There's two on Youtube.

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Hi Grassy, I looked for the quote. I thought it was the second interview from 2000, but now I'm not so sure. I couldn't find it, but I skipped through it so maybe I missed it this time around.

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I knew Timothy Leary. He was no liberal. Surprise. Did you know Timothy Leary?

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He can't have been a conservative, surely? An LSD advocate whose slogan was "Turn on, tune in, drop out"?

How did you know him?

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First of all, you only "know" what you've been told to know. That should be more concerning to you than anything else. Do you understand?

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I don't understand why you just said that. You said you knew Tim Leary, I was asking how you knew him.

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Well there is this from Wikipedia:

Leary began to foster an improbable friendship with former foe G. Gordon Liddy, the Watergate burglar and conservative radio talk-show host.

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That doesn't mean he shared his politics.

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What's your point, Grassy? I dislike casting pearls, so my part of the discussion is over.

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Will you tell me about how you knew Leary?

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no grass! because well just no! okay?

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Anyway, I don't know what Leary was. I don't know much about him really, just that he promoted taking LSD and questioning authority. Which to 2000 me seems more liberal than conservative, but maybe he was an anarchist. I'm sure you know much more about him than I.

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That doesn't mean he shared his politics.
No of course not - but it does raise doubt that we know everything about him and suggests the possibility he may not have been as politically liberal as we might otherwise guess.

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I mean her

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Is there something that she says anything? Btw call me a 30 year old pedophile, but milly? you are and can be the new Winona:) Winona..you looked great.. I'm glad for you.. x
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