Mel Gibson : Can Mel Gibson ever be redeemed?

Can Mel Gibson ever be redeemed?

In the public eye, do you think Mel can make it back big to how he was at the start of his career?

Robert Downey Jr. had a moment but be cam back strong and he's now loved all around thw world.

I hate to say it but the same applies to Justin Bieber (yes he's a lot younger and probably more atupid but) he said and done things where the people turned him down. Now he's back and probably bigger that ever.

I would just love to see Mel Gibson in a lot more movies. I don't know if it's because he's cut back on the films he makes or whether it's because a lot doesn't want to work with him.

"You ask anybody what their number one fear is, and it's public humiliation. Multiply that on a global scale, and that's what I've been through."

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Redemption is possible for Everyone. Look at Britney Spears when she had her breakdown everyone said shes finished. Then she came back BIG !
Gibson deserves a shot at redeeming himself. ITs been a long time and its a tragic waste to let a great actor like him sit on the shelf because of a momentary lapse of reason.


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Britney came back BIG?? Don't remember that.



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I love Mel (as far as acting/directing) and I wish he could make a comeback. But the difference between Mel and RDJ is that when RDJ screwed up he didn't make racial comments (afaik). Redemption will be much harder, if not impossible, for Mel.

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No one is perfect, and for god's sake, it's been 7 years now. His friends and a million other people forgive him. Time to forgive and move on. He has NEVER treated anyone different. Underneath it all, he's a good man.

"Guys like you don't die on toilets." Mel Gibson-Riggs, Lethal Weapon

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I agree mostly. Anyone who's lived long enough gets this, especially around people with substance problems. He without sin...

It doesn't make what he did "okay" or "admirable" ffs, but I think he's kind of been punished long enough.

I always separate the creator from the art in these cases, anyway. I say just let the guy make some damn movies before he's dead. People will either pony up or won't. I think a lot of people would.

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no, he's a horrible person for the things he said to his ex girlfriend. he'll never be in a big movie ever again. does't look like you were right as it's now been 4 years since you posted that and he still hasn't been in a big movie since before he made those antisemitic remarks.

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...he was actually very drunk when he said what was on those tapes. He's actually not racist or sexist at all in real life...
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Like they say, a persons true nature or beliefs can come to the fore when drunk, angry or both. As for Gibson being racist and sexist, and those that point fingers at him for being these things, are just as likely closet racists and sexist themselves. They don't have the guts to say what they really think though and then project their own insecurities and hypocritical attitudes onto others. They are just looking for a scapegoat to hide behind, so they can look and feel better about themselves.

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This is one of the biggest myths on the planet. Not true at all. I could write book on how wrong that is but don't have time. Drunk people lie like dogs. I know one personally. Can't trust a thing they say.
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A myth according to who? You! Your experiences don't amass to things being set in stone and not the only way things are. Please don't write your book, it would be self-absorbed, rather than absorbing.

Behind Mel's madness, there is also an extremely talented and creative individual who has a lot to say and he is not afraid to express it either. He is also a privileged and lucky human being and others look up them as being role models, that is why if one is revered, they need to act in a manner that is worthy of that respect. We all have our foibles though and things can also be forgiven. This is what Christ represented, and Gibson being relgious Catholic can also be a hypocrite as well. If he shoots himself in the foot, he will just have to wear any consequence, be it justified or not.

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Think about it logically. If alcohol was such an effective truth serum, why aren't we getting witnesses and defendants drunk before they take the stand?
And keep in mind that that Mr Gibson has a bipolar disorder and is an alcoholic, both of those mess with the mind and alcoholism with the brain chemistry.

I prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt, especially as he has been remorseful. Hasn't his punishment gone on long enough by now?

And by the way, I can say really spiteful untrue things if i'm a bit to drunk and someone I love hurts my feelings. So you don't even need to be an alcoholic or have a bipolar disorder to lie when drunk.

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He's been remorseful? Can't say I've heard him apologize for anything.
He's a drunk, a holocaust denier, an anti-Semite, a producer of gratuitous violence and torture porn, a serial adulterer, and a man who has been abusive to his former partner and is about to have an illegitimate child.
No one is perfect, but let's get real here: he claims to be a devout Catholic, but it's his wealth, power and celebrity that entitles him to speak and behave like a lowlife bum.
I do not respect him, I do not like him and I do not forgive him.

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except anee08Gibson DID apologize for his actions not just once but over and over and over again. How many apologies does one man need to make ? Anyways He doesn't know you and I think he can do fine without you and your hateful kind.

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...I do not respect him, I do 238 not like him and I do not forgive him.
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Yes, Gibson has had some dark issues to deal with, but your condemnation of him is staggering. Yes, he may be a hypocrite with some of his Catholic ideology; but that is for him to sort out and what you read in the media IS NOT always telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Are you Christian, because it sounds like you are placing judgement on him based on your own beliefs and value system? If that is the case, then I suggest you look at the notion of "forgiveness" and what C 16d0 hrist really stand for, instead of coming across as a phony contrarian and hypocrite yourself. If you act as though you are holier than thou, make sure you have your tongue planted firmly in your cheek and have your wits about you.

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...I can say really spiteful untrue things if i'm a bit drunk...
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😄 I can say really spiteful things when I'm sober—which is all the time, since I don't drink—but I'd like to think I am being truthful about what I am saying.

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What kind of *beep* is that? I bet you have no friends. I guess alcohol shows everyone their true colors, so did you write this drunk? Cause you sound like a complete cereal box scholar.

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Did you ever think that RDJ did things and said things that we never and will never hear about? Mel was just unfortunate enough to get his ass caught saying and doing stupid sh!t.

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To steal from Dan Harmon:

"We're Robert Downy Jr. He was so high he was crawling through people's windows. Now, he's Iron Man."

Can only imagine what no one saw. But I guess all of us are just perfect angels, yeah? I've never said or done anything wrong!

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He shouldn't have made negative comments about Jews - but nearly everyone forgets the context of Mel's remarks. Shortly beforehand, droves of Jews had ripped him a new one for directing The Passion of the Christ; they tried (wrongly) to portray the film itself as antisemitic. There's no way to prove the following assertion, but I believe that had the Jewish community adopted a "live and let live" approach, Mel never would've been caught out in a situation where he was tempted to make antisemitic remarks in the first place.

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Interesting. People DO tend to forget that it was The Passion that angered certain people in the first place.

You think it was those reactions that DROVE, or at least helped drive, Gibson to that point?

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My preferred word here is "tempted." The word "drive" almost implies that Mel couldn't help saying what he said, but I don't believe that. He could help it. All I'm saying is that his comments weren't out of the blue: the antichristian Jewish lobby (no, not all Jews; I am NOT antisemitic) vilified Mel and his film without just cause - so Gibson's natural reaction was to get angry and say things in the heat of his anger.

He shouldn't have done it; I'm not excusing or condoning his words. I'm merely pointing out that it's not like he just woke up one morning and thought, I'm gonna make some public antisemitic comments today! with zero instigation.

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With the general public? Yes and most people are over it

Hollywood Liberals? No
These people are the biggest hypocrites on the planet and have no trouble working with Roman Polanski or a Woody Allen.

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That´s exactly what I thought. They give those creeps a pass (and many awards) and they condemn Mel. They consider them "geniuses", but they´ve turned Mel into a laughin stock and a living joke. Yes, what he did was bad, but is not like he raped a child or molested his own daughter and married his girlfriend´s adoptive daughter.

I never cared for Allen or his mediocre movies, I think he´s one of the most overrated directors in history and the fact that he gets a pass while Gibson´s been blacklisted, says a lot about Hollywood. At least Polanski is a great director, though, and (I believe) still a wanted man, unlike Mr. Konigsberg.

But I belive that Mell will have his revenge. He only needs one hit to do so.

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Also what Mark Wahlberg did was far worse and the press and Hollywood have certainly let that go. When he was younger, Wahlberg chased after school kids-when their teacher was present-threatening to kill them, using slurs against them and throwing rocks at them (one of them still has a scar). Then he savagely beat two innocent men and was charged with attempted murder-yet he only served a little over a month in prison. He claimed that changed him (he never wanted to go back there), yet he then got into a fight with his neighbor and broke the guy's jaw. On top of that, Wahlberg admitted that he never even apologized to his victims (the opposite of Mel, who made amends to anyone he might have offended when it became public what he had said while drunk and angry)-and yet Wahlberg said his conscience didn't bother him at all. Wahlberg is clearly an awful human being-and the press is still reminding us about remarks Mel made years ago in his personal life? Mel just pissed off the wrong individuals.

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I forgot about Marky Mark! It's a shame that you can do what he did and still be forgiven. Everyone is saying that it was actually the phone calls to his ex that caused all of this and that it was an example of his true personality, but Alec Balwin did the same and to his own daughter, yet, he is as popular as ever, even winning major awards for his work on TV.

So I believe it was the anti-semitic remarks that got him banned from Hollywood.

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...what Mark Wahlberg did was far worse...he savagely beat two innocent men and was charged with attempted murder-yet he only served a little over a month in prison. He claimed that changed him (he never wanted to go back there)...
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Whalberg has been a very fortunate man and if he had savagely beaten two innocent women, I wonder if he would have served ONLY a month in prison. The justice system can be biased and sexist when it comes to male victims, as opposed to female. He did have some serious anger issues to deal with at the time and he was also younger than Gibson. Things happen and people get lost and caught along the way. I don't judge Whalberg or Gibson for whatever they did; it can't be undone and even if people are punished for their crimes, people still want to go on punishing them. Some things do need to be let go of, and we also don't know what other amends Whalberg has made to his victims from his past.

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No because we live in a hypocritical society.

We live in a society where the cast of Hangover wouldn't work with Mel but would work with convicted rapist Mike Tyson, where Bill Murray's wife accused him of beating her but no one was bothered, and Marlon Brando insulted the Jewish community in Hollywood and it's never mentioned.

Why was it different with Mel?

I can only assume it's because he insulted the Jewish community while in a drunken state and being arrested at a time when he'd already pissed many off with his Christ movie, and then came the recorded phone calls that were everywhere on the internet for people to hear.

On top of that, some people like to paint him with the same brush as his dad.

Mel will NEVER be redeemed or escape from the controversy but I'm still a fan.


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Unfortunate but true. Well said, buddyboy.

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And forget about all the well respected, high profile types like George Miller, Peter Weir, Sigourney Weaver, Jodie Foster, Ron Howard.... etc who actually know him and have actually worked with him and come out and defended him.

Not to mention his wife of nearly 30 years who's said he never laid a finger on her at any point.

Ignore all that it just gets in the way of the witch hunt and agenda of painting him as one of the most despicable people who's ever lived.

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Hell, even after Mel was caught on tape yelling racist sh!t at his ex, he still had famous black stars like Whoopi Goldberg and Danny Glover coming out in Mel's defense. They know him better than all of these sheep following the Hate Mel bandwagon.

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Good points but if he displayed a little humility it would go a long way and a good PR firm doesn't hurt either. He's got enough money (and friends) if he wanted to launch himself again. Give it time.

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If Gibson wants a career like RDJ, he needs to land himself a similar role. It's not like he hasn't gotten roles either. Also, Bieber is far younger and appeals to a much different demographic than Gibson does. Hacksaw Ridge could be good for him as a director if it turns out great.

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He has been redeemed by the blood of the Cross.

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For Gibson to be redeemed it starts with US forgiving him and nutsacks like Bhikky to go away and not come back.


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The presence of a troll has nothing to do with whether or not Mel is redeemed.

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Redemption means being redeemed and forgiven in the eyes of the world. People like Bhikky will never let Gibson be redeemed and will always try to tear him down even once he's redeemed


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He is not the world (which contains billions of individuals)-he's just one little troll.

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People like Bhikky will never let Gibson be redeemed


Speak for yourself. I rest assured that you are the only person on Earth who ascribes power to useless little twits. I would consider spitting at him to be a waste of good sputum.

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Oh let trolls waste their lives on petty trivialities of hate if they want to -- it only makes Gibson appear all the better for having gracefully endured such unnecessary nonsense.

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Oh let trolls waste their lives on petty trivialities of hate if they want to -- it only makes Gibson appear all the better for having gracefully endured such unnecessary nonsense.


Exactly. Jesus said, "Those without sin cast the first stone" Mel said Jesus was the only true hero on earth. I believe his relationship with him is the most personal and the only one that truly counts in this world. He is forgiven by the only one that matters...Jesus.

But the haters...they need to stop hating anyone, it's just wrong and hypocritical to call Mel out and be one yourself.

Mel stopped drinking and smoking years ago; he said he's trying to better himself. Good, that is what Jesus would want him to do. Again, the only one that truly matters.







"Guys like you don't die on toilets." Mel Gibson-Riggs, Lethal Weapon

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Where's the fruit of the Spirit? How many women has he been living with since he supposedly was "redeemed"? How many children has he fathered out of wedlock? I honestly don't know, because I can't take the man's "Christianity" seriously since there's no difference in the way he lives and the way a godless unbeliever lives. He might play church, but that's it.

But he seems to have gotten his career back, and that's the main thing, isn't it?

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No. He's too old. He's also too prideful and unapologetic. And good for him. Ain't nothing worth spending the rest of your career groveling and pretending to be humble. It just sucks we got robbed of the last ten years of Mel's youthful years before he becomes an old man. Lost a batch of great movies there.

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I wish he does.

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Robert Downey Jr asks forgiveness for Mel Gibson

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The Jews will prevent him from redemption in the public's eye.

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The Jews will prevent him from redemption in the public's eye.

Lol the Jews dont control the public.

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