Mel Gibson : Serious Q: Why is Mel hated on?

Re: Serious Q: Why is Mel hated on?

Its fine for Isreali Presidents to threaten the whole world with a nuclear holocaust but its not nice to say 1 bad word against or criticize them.

Thats why Gibson is a target for the media.

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If your question truly is serious, please listen to the tapes Oksana Grigorieva released, they will answer your question:

http://www.wastedyourtime.com/mel_gibson.html

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Re: Serious Q: Why is Mel hated on?

People should move on from comments he made after drinking YEARS ago. Everyone says idiotic stuff if they drink a lot. It seems like the only people with a problem with him are just annoying hollywood reporters who bring it up like some joke. I'd like to see him acting in or directing big epic films again.

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I totally agree. Forgiveness is a virtue that we all need to practice if we expect forgiveness. In Expendables III, Mel Gibson was every bit equal as a villain to the heroes of that movie and such a movie needs a villain who can be taken seriously. Mel Gibson certainly fit the bill. I am watching Machete Kills and I can already see that he has nailed it again.

He made a stupid mistake for which he will have to walk the straight and narrow for a long time to come and he is out of "Get out of jail free" cards and he knows it. It also looks like he knows he has to leave the booze alone. I am glad that a lot of people are moving on and if he wants to keep working he knows what he has to do.

It is also a smart move at this point in his career that he is extending his career by taking villain parts and he makes a very good villain. You will know he has really arrived as a villain and is closer to being redeemed for taking a bottle of stupid pills if he ever gets to be a James Bond villain. He really knows how to get out there with such characters. I have always been in his corner and do not regret it.

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"I hope you go get raped by a pack of n---ers!"-Mel Gibson

Yeah, he did a good bit more than just get drunk and say bad stuff about Jews. Nice try though, guys!

Take a listen to this tape:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm3YrTk7qTY

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....and here's some more for you guys.

http://gawker.com/5582644/all-the-terrible-things-mel-gibson-has-said-on-the-record


...so no, it's not because he made a "heartfelt Jesus movie".

::rolls eyes::

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That was years later...and a private conversation with his girlfriend.

One time he was not nice, blah, blah. First of all, it's no one's business what happened between the two of them.

And yes, his film, which I'm sure you haven't seen the extras where they talk about how many people condemned it before they even saw it, had a LOT to do with his film career. Hate him if you want. He's done more charity work than you. People forgive and still love him. People say stupid stuff, and I do believe he was drunk, his best friends say so; I believe them over....you.




"Please let me keep this memory, just this one." ~ Joel, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

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That was years later...and a private conversation with his girlfriend.
Private conversations are when one's true feelings and thoughts come out. Mel Gibson is a hateful man.

Om Mani Padme Hum

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Since you're anonymous and can't prove that you've never had any conversations like that (and are seeking out strangers who have done nothing to you to act hateful towards), you are in no place 2000 to judge Mr. Gibson over his private phone calls.

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you are in no place to judge Mr. Gibson over his private phone calls.
What about all of the horrible things he has said during interviews, when he knew he was on the record? Also, during a public interview one puts on a public face; it's during private conversations that the real person comes out.

Om Mani Padme Hum

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Now, he is just making films (which provides jobs for many other people) and spending the rest of his time with his family and friends and doing good work for charities. That's the real Mel Gibson-what his actions are today, not what his words were years ago.

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Now, he is just making films (which provides jobs for many other people) and spending the rest of his time with his family and friends and doing good work for charities. That's the real Mel Gibson
That's the Damage Control Mel Gibson.

Om Mani Padme Hum

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No, people who are rational that don't know him personally don't care about anything but the work that he produces. What he said years ago doesn't affect your life more than what he is doing currently-and if you are bothered that much by these old quotes (which there is no point in continuing to rehash), why don't you just forget about them? A first step would be for you to stop coming to this board. Everyone else who posts here either does so to discuss films of his that they have seen or want to see, or because they want to lash out against fans to make themselves feel better about something in their lives which is making them miserable. You obviously need help with this obsession of yours to proclaim repeatedly how bad you think Gibson is-a pointless exercise since you are not changing anyone's mind. The fans here will either continue to discuss the work of Gibson that they love and ignore everything you say-or point out how out of touch you are with everyone else who has forgiven Gibson (if they even believe he did anything that requires their forgiveness) and moved on from what he said years ago.

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No, people who are rational that don't know him personally don't care about anything but the work that he p 1354 roduces.

You believe that it is irrational to disapprove of racism, homophobia, misogyny, and antisemitism?

Om Mani Padme Hum

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I believe that most people don't go so far as to form an opinion about his private life-they are intelligent enough to know that if they never meet him, then the only thing about him that affects them is his film work. It is as big a waste of time as being concerned about any other stranger out in the world (that they will never meet) and what that stranger is thinking.

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I believe that most people don't go so far as to form an opinion about his private life
Mel Gibson has said so many horrible things in the context of his public life. 5b4

Om Mani Padme Hum

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As far as those who don't know him personally, everything besides the films he makes is part of his personal life. Only those who have unhealthy obsessions with celebrities think what a filmmaker says in interviews, etc. matters. Most people just don't care about an artist's opinions-any more than they worry about the opinions of any of the other billions of strangers out in the world that they'll never get to meet (and so will not be a part of their life).

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As far as those who don't know him personally, everything besides the films he makes is part of his personal life.
No. Interviews are part of one's public life. And Mel Gibson has conducted himself horribly in them.

Om Mani Padme Hum

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It is not something most people care about-they ignore things like that since it has no impact on their lives (unlike a film can impact them-even if in a small way).

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Not ALL interviews by him are bad. some are excellent to read or hear. Gibson is a great interview.


FIVE TO ONE BABY ONE IN FIVE NO ONE HERE GETS OUT ALIVE - JIM MORRISON

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(unlike a film can impact them-even if in a small way).


Exactly, this one poster on Braveheart board said he is a history professor BECAUSE of Braveheart. His story is so interesting to read.


"Please let me keep this memory, just this one." ~ Joel, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

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Not ALL interviews by him are bad. some are excellent to read or hear. Gibson is a great interview.



Why Bh bothers listening to Mel anyway baffles me. I'd rather spend my day talking about good things and NOT someone I loathe. Seems so depressing, bitter, and trollish. I bet he writes letters to Mel's daughter reminding him of their fight, pfft. Would NOT surprise me. He can't let go.


"Please let me keep this memory, just this one." ~ Joel, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

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Not ALL interviews by him are bad. some are excellent to read or hear.
And others are horrifically hateful.

Om Mani Padme Hum

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It's difficult NOT to form an opinion about his private life based on all the details that have been made public. Fairly or not, the more you read about the guy, the harder it is to believe he's NOT the lunatic he sounds like on those tapes.

Those are him in his OWN words.

Again...I love his movies. I'll keep watching Lethal Weapon and Mad Max, but my opinion of him as a person is a totally different matter.

Same thing with Woody Allen (alleged) or Roman Polanski (confirmed)...some people simply can't separate the art from the person. I can. When the art is SO good, it's just not possible for me to discard it...the idea of not watching Chinatown or Manhattan because of their personal lives isn't an option for me.

The fact is that there are very few "nice" people in Hollywood. It's a nasty industry and it takes nasty people to survive the grinder of the industry. Guys like Tom Hanks or Hugh Jackman are the exception rather than the rule unfortunately.

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I refuse to watch any of Polanski's movies because I know he committed horrible crimes against a child-and he escaped justice. Likewise with Mark Wahlberg, attacking people viciously-even deservedly first being charged with attempted murder-but only serving 45 days in prison. And even though he claimed his "punishment" changed him, he later broke his neighbor's jaw, so obviously he is still the same vicious individual he always was-and I will never watch any movie he makes either. And if Michael Vick ever has anything to do with any movie, I will likewise boycott that.

What those three did was unforgivable-not that they would ever deserve forgiveness anyway since they wouldn't even accept the punishments (decades to life in prison) that they deserved for th 2000 eir violent crimes against the most helpless victims.

As for Woody Allen and Bill Cosby, I don't know that either of them ever victimized anyone-Cosby is most likely a womanizer, but that doesn't mean he ever violently or illegally abused anyone. Women are not children, so just the fact that a man propositions them is not a crime-and their claims that they were abused by him are only allegations.

But I never have had any problem watching Gibson's films-he never did anything near as vile as what Polanski, Wahlberg or Vick did, and he has more than paid for anything he might have done.

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Fair enough...I respect your opinion, and of course I don't view Gibson's words as being worse than, say, Polanski's actual actions.

Why Wahlberg continues to get a free pass from everyone is equally mindboggling.

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You believe that it is irrational to disapprove of racism, homophobia, misogyny, and antisemitism?


I believe it is totally rational to disapprove of you, you filthy troll. As to that other stuff, never gave it a thought. Not interesting.

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"You believe that it is irrational to disapprove of racism, homophobia, misogyny, and antisemitism?"

Thank god you're not in charge of punishing these people for making these mistakes. You could and would probably go through every prison and execute every man in every cell.

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You could and would probably go through every prison and execute every man in every cell.
That would constitute a holocaust, and the Gibsons would be the first to deny it ever happened.

Om Mani Padme Hum

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That would constitute a holocaust, and the Gibsons would be the first to deny it ever happened.


Ah but you are a marauding sociopath, the very kind who carry out crimes against humanity. You are also a marauding bully, which by definition means you are a coward who propitiates those who you perceive to possess power. Quintessentially repulsive through and through. That's you, binky.

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Mel Gibson is a hateful man.


He is a good man. You, on the other hand, are a sociopath troll. How does it feel to be like that? I keep reading that trolls are as despicable off the Internet as they are online. I believe it.

Ka-ching for the PayPal?

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Bh is so full of hate, glad I don't know him.






"Please let me keep this memory, just this one." ~ Joel, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

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Re: Serious Q: Why is Mel hated on?

I'm a huge movie buff, so I can't help but take interest in the personal lives of actors whose work I love. Maybe I shouldn't care, but it's human nature, and Mel's meltdowns diminish his standing in my eye.

I still watch his movies...I respect his artistry but I don't respect him as a human being.

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I don't have time to follow what goes on in the personal lives of all the filmmakers whose work I love. When one of them dies, I feel a little sad-but I still don't know them. And the media may announce when they have kids, cheat on their spouses, get arrested, etc.-but I dismiss all that kind of stuff because I am not there in their lives, I don't know what all was done by others and it really doesn't affect my life anyway.

So I generally withhold judgment when I hear news about a celebrity's private life-but when I hear 238 d so much criticism in the media over what Gibson said in private phone calls to his ex-girlfriend (Eli Roth even felt emboldened enough to say on camera that he was going to kill Gibson and also that "we should kill him"), I followed the story and found out a lot of details because it seemed so unjust the way Gibson was being treated in the media. And the more his ex-girlfriend talked, the more she proved she had lied about everything and was only trying to get a multimillion dollar settlement out of Gibson. And of course others have the same motivations to get 111c money and attention by painting Gibson in a bad light. He did admit to saying one insulting thing to one person when he was arrested while drunk, but he has more than made up for that with all the good he has done.

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Why is Mel hated on?


Hated on what? TV? Is he hated on TV?

Where did you learn English, if you ever did?

Re: Serious Q: Why is Mel hated on?

shut up.

i mostly will not be able to answer your reply, since marissa mayer hacked my email, no notification

Re: Serious Q: Why is Mel hated on?


shut up.
Everyone's opinion is welcomed on IMDb.

Om Mani Padme Hum

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not true, my post the holocaust is a myth was deleted by administrator.

i mostly will not be able to answer your reply, since marissa mayer hacked my email, no notification

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not true, my post the holocaust is a myth was deleted by administrator.
Unfortunately there are those who are afraid of any open discussion about Mel Gibson's antisemitism.

Om Mani Padme Hum

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not true, my post the holocaust is a myth was deleted by administrator.



Racist and hateful comments are not tolerated.

Don't let anyone ever make you feel like you don't deserve what you want.

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Racist and hateful comments are not tolerated.
Racist and hateful comments are what Mel Gibson is all about.

Om Mani Padme Hum

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His rants are timeless classics.

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He's anti-semitic and racist. He proved that quite a few times. And you're saying it doesn't make him a horrible person. If that doesn't I don't know what will!

SOMEONE ELSE IS ON THE MOON! 😯

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Re: Serious Q: Why is Mel hated on?

The thing is....he doesn't hate Jews. He said "they start all the war" blah, and he apologized saying it was a stupid thing to say.

He made a super personal film about a Jew, called The Passion of the Christ. Many people said it was anti-semetic before it was EVER released. They lambasted him daily; he said it did piss him off, rightly so.

The film has the Romans being more evil.

Mel has NEVER said EVER that he "hated" anyone. Bhikki hates though..that's obvious.

Rumors are started by people like bhikki; it's really sad.

He's done more to help people in his life than most. He said he had to forgive people and had to be forgiven himself.


"Guys like you don't die on toilets." Mel Gibson-Riggs, Lethal Weapon

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The thing is....he doesn't hate Jews. He said "they start all the war" blah,
LOL! I wonder why people thinks that he hates Jews!

Om Mani Padme Hum

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Well.. the jews care!

SOMEONE ELSE IS ON THE MOON! 😯
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