Mel Gibson : Serious Q: Why is Mel hated on?

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He got drunk and said stupid stuff nearly 10 years ago, apologized, but people can't move on and dwell in misery.

He raised a ton of money recently at a charity event, plus some. They won't talk about that though...PFFT


Yep, the public is bloodthirsty. I'm still a fan - don't know him as a person, but do know he's a great actor and director.

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This is one of the many reasons Mel Gibson is hated.
'Mel Gibson called me an oven-dodger'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1339271/Mel-Gibson-called -oven-dodger-claims-Winona-Ryder.html

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Jackie Mason said it was because people were jealous of Gibson due to his enormous amount of success in the film business.

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Jackie Mason said it was because people were jealous of Gibson due to his enormous amount of success in the film business.

There are others just as/more successful in the film business who are not as vile as Mel Gibson. Has George Clooney brought this much hatred on himself?

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George Clooney gets treated very well by the media, in general. The press likes to keep things going when a negative story comes out about a celebrity-as well as exaggerate how bad it was.

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Who is as or more successful as Gibson in the film industry ? Gibson was one of the few actors who could bring in 300 million dollars on his name alone. Gibson directed 4 fantastic films, 2 of which have generated worldwide buzz and are being talked about till today, by every journalist, film critic, film schools and film buffs. No actor has ever built a production company similar to Icon Productions. What resume does Clooney have ? A few good flicks and his looks ? Gibson had it all really. Clooney made a film starring himself and a bunch of A-listers on a budget of 100 million and it was a flop. Gibson made a film with 30 million and unknown actors and made it a billion dollar film. Apocalypto which was released following the scandal and had a small budget and no names made more money than The Monuments Men. The only people who come to mind are Harrison Ford who was more successful as an actor, but lacked the directing abilities and overall Gibson wins. Warren Beatty and Kevin Costner are the only other people that I could say matched Gibson, but Warren retired and Costner began making flops. As for the ones today, there aren't people who can open films successfully based on their name alone. Depp could do it but it only lasted for a few years and he now tries to recycle some of his old characters and films. Cruise did it and it lasted only for a few a few years.Now he only does action films. RDJ relies on superhero films and then there was Banderas in the 90s with a few decent films and Zorro. Dicaprio ( with big directors and famous casts ) does it. Pitt seems to be the only one who can bring in money on his name alone and is steady enough at the box-office.

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Who is as or more successful as Gibson in the film industry ? Gibson was one of the few actors who could bring in 300 million dollars on his name alone. Gibson directed 4 fantastic films, 2 of which have generated worldwide buzz and are being talked about till today, by every journalist, film critic, film schools and film buffs. No actor has ever built a production company similar to Icon Productions. What resume does Clooney have ? A few good flicks and his looks ? Gibson had it all really. Clooney made a film starring himself and a bunch of A-listers on a budget of 100 million and it was a flop. Gibson made a film with 30 million and unknown actors and made it a billion dollar film. Apocalypto which was released following the scandal and had a small budget and no names made more money than The Monuments Men. The only people who come to mind are Harrison Ford who was more successful as an actor, but lacked the directing abilities and overall Gibson w 1354 ins. Warren Beatty and Kevin Costner are the only other people that I could say matched Gibson, but Warren retired and Costner began making flops. As for the ones today, there aren't people who can open films successfully based on their name alone. Depp could do it but it only lasted for a few years and he now tries to recycle some of his old characters and films. Cruise did it and it lasted only for a few a few years.Now he only does action films. RDJ relies on superhero films and then there was Banderas in the 90s with a few decent films and Zorro. Dicaprio ( with big directors and famous casts ) does it. Pitt seems to be the only one who can bring in money on his name alone and is steady enough at the box-office.

So that's why you believe Mel Gibson is attacked with accusations of antisemitism...because he's successful? LOL!

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While Gibson did yell at a Jewish cop while he was drunk, the fact that the media kept going after him for years, proves that it was a personal vendetta. There are actors out there who did far worse things and it was all water under the bridge. They began going after him when The Passion was released, so yes I believe it was a personal vendetta. You see, when an actor manages to produce and finance his own films then manages to steal the top spot at the box-office for a few weeks, that is when the studios have a problem. Gibson had enough recognition and star power to have done this more and more, which would have encouraged other directors and actors to come to him to finance their projects in exchange for artistic freedom or they would have done it themselves, thus being a problem to studios. Financing your own films is fine as long as you do not take over the box-office and screw the studios that are established in the industry. Apocalypto, which was a film in a dead language, with no name non-white actors managed to make 4 times its budget at the box-office with little to not publicity and after the scandal.

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he is hated for being honest and not being a hypocrite liberal.

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he is hated for being honest and not being a hypocrite liberal.
Honest about what, exactly? Don't be too scared to respond.

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he is hated for being honest and not being a hypocrite liberal.

In other words, you're both bigoted AND barely literate. Thanks for making that clear.


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Jesus, what is it with you right-wingers and your derangement about liberals? Why are you right-wingers so intensely invested in portraying us as monsters.

Honest?? So you're okay with Mel verbally assaulting police officers, spewing anti-Semitic rhetoric knowing that his father is a Holocaust denier, and threatening to kill a woman in the most vile, hateful and misogynistic way possible.

Gotcha. Survey says? You're a cretinous scumbag.

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Because hes a white heterosexual ch b68 ristian male. Apparently we are automatically guilty of *beep*
Nope. It's because he's guilty of making scathingly hateful comments about Jews, African Americans, Latinos, the LGBT community, and women.

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And Clinton got oral in the Oval office - yet when his term ended the US's economy was at its strongest it been in 15 years.

Also, if he says something truthful about a particular group of people it's not necessarily hateful, sometimes it's just truthful. For example, black people in the US often act rowdy and uncivilized and violently during their protests, but then complain the police views them with suspicion.

Or a black kid pulls a gun on a cop and gets shot, and all the black people accuse the cop.

That's not me being hateful, I have had good, civilized black friends, but I 5b4 have also met black people where I live who display these same violent characteristics.

I could go on about women, gay people, jews etc as well, never being hateful, just truthful. All ethnicities and nationalities and groups have some characteristics about them which come back in a pattern in a large number of their people.

For example, if I call gay people as people who are really fun at parties, you won't say anything, but if I point out that gay people can sound INCREDIBLY annoying when they complain, you'll tell me I'm homophobic.

Or sometimes, if I say something typically "discriminatory" like "Jews are good at making money" you'll say I'm racist. However, if you look at top businessmen in different industries around the world, you'll often find jews or partnered jews being in them. So it's not racist, it's based on truth.

Grow the f up.

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Also, if he says something truthful about a particular group of people it's not necessarily hateful, sometimes it's just truthful.
So, you also believe that the Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world?

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I'm not going to reply to you unless you take my entire post in consideration. From my first impression you're a forum freak who happens to live his life on these specific forums, and you like to take a part of a post out of context as long as it justifies your means of feeling self-righteous.

If your point in life is to crush Mel Gibson on the Interwebs then knock yourself out. Calling Jews responsible for all the wars in the world doesn't sound racist, just sounds like historical ignorance. Either way, I don't give much of a *beep* since Mel Gibson isn't my history reference go-to guy.

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Great Answer mate!

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SuperHelpfulMedic, . Summed up perfectly.

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No one cares about any of those people anyway.
Well, actually...many do care about "those people."

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Their problems dont come before others. They aren't special.

Their problems?! Whose problems? Of whom do you speak of? Don't be scared.

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Well said.

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Well, he does have extreme anger/rage issues. The audio tapes of his rants were revelaed online a few years ago. I'd imagine he's had some help since then though.

As for where the most hate comes from, his arrest back in 2006. I guess a lot of folks viewed him as flawless, and not just an actor.

He's done much less than folks like Lena Dunham though, who openly admitted to sexually molesting her little sister.

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I find it hilarious that we're all supposed to hate on Mel Gibson just because some random freaking COP claims that he said some nebulous thing about Jews or whatever. Haha, just like we're supposed to believe Darren Wilson and all the other scum-sucking pigs out there.

Sorry, but Mel Gibson is a brilliant artist and a hero to thousands. And no amount of bandwagon hate-mongering is gonna change the fact. …Just like H.P. Lovecraft is one of the most influential horror writers of all time, and he was UNQUESTIONABLY bigoted.

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find it hilarious that we're all supposed to hate on Mel Gibson just because some random freaking COP claims 5b4 that he said some nebulous thing about Jews or whatever.
Not just a claim, it's on video. Look it up.


Sorry, but Mel Gibson is a brilliant artist and a hero to thousands
I agree that he is a brillian artist. Which is why I think it's a shame that folks still condemn him. Many folks have done much worse, and are still out there front and center.

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Not just a claim, it's on video. Look it up.


If there is actual video of his DUI incident, I've never seen it… The point is that it's a total non-sequitur to label the guy a freaking "anti-semite" just because he said something negative about Jews. Just like, for example, people who use the n-word are not automatically "racist" (see: George Carlin). And the only people calling him a bigot are people who don't even personally know him (like cops, douchebag reporters, etc.)… People who actually know him - JEWS who actually know him - are not saying these kinda things.


I agree that he is a brillian artist. Which is why I think it's a shame that folks still condemn him. Many folks have done much worse, and are still out there front and center.


For sure. Mel Gibson is making a comeback, though. If he ever makes that Viking movie, people will be swooning over him like it's 1995.

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The point is that it's a total non-sequitur to label the guy a freaking "anti-semite" just because he said something negative about Jews.
Ummm.....

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The point is that it's a total non-sequitur to label the guy a freaking "anti-semite" just because he said something negative about Jews. Just like, for example, people who use the n-word are not automatically "racist" (see: George Carlin).


1) No, it is NOT a non sequitur to call a person who says negative things about Jews an antisemite. That's what an antisemite is. 2) George Carlin never called a person the n-word. There's a world of difference between using profanity in a comedy routine and using those same words in a negative, hateful manner to insult a group of people. And if you weren't entirely stupid, you'd understand that.


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1) No, it is NOT a non sequitur to call a person who says negative things about Jews an antisemite. That's what an antisemite is.


You're probably one of those naive, literal-minded people who thinks Lars von Trier is a Nazi. And Michael Richards is a racist, etc…


2) George Carlin never called a person the n-word.


False.

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Hey, why do Jews have such big noses?

Because air is free.


OMG, you disgusting anti-semite! You make me sick!

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And if you weren't entirely stupid, you'd understand that.


Your argument sounds like you are saying that Mel is an anti-semite for calling someone/a group of people a disrespectful name. Therefore, what does that make you?

It is impossible to take your points seriously when you throw insults on the end of most of your posts.

If were to insult you I would probably say, "Must you call people names, like a 7th grade girl?. In the adult world you have to be able to make valid points without getting frustrated and resorting to name calling."

Once in awhile I could see it or just to be funny occasionally.

Also, your username isn't helping your credibility either.

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And I should care what your opinion of me and my credibility is because.......?


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What is so bad about being an anti-Semite?
Wow! Just...wow.

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I find it hilarious that we're all supposed to hate on Mel Gibson

Then (a) you have one seriously screwed-up sense of humor and (b) you need to finish middle school since only the uneducated say things like "hate on."


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Shutup loser. This is the internet, people can say whatever they want.
LOL!!!! If you have any intelligence at all you'll see the contradiction in this statement.This is PRICELESS!

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There's no way to answer that since "hated on" has no meaning in English, and is the kind of thing a brain-dead 12-year-old would say.


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Just a friendly warning - if colloquial language offends you that severely, you should probably stay away from places like Facebook and YouTube. You're likely to go into cardiac arrest, especially considering your weak heart.

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jews run hollyweird
WOW. Just...wow.

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Nicely put. So true.

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