King Kong : Idiot in my class

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Don't let it bother you. I'm 60, and I know we all tend to "idolize" the movies we grew up with, although the mature of us learn to get over the criticisms the younger people offer. Just wait till someone laughs at "Transformers" thirty years from now; if he's grown up he'll take it in stride, but if not he'll cry like a little kid.

BTW - the original Kong is my favorite movie of all time.

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Speaking of dinosaurs I might want to mention that my class idiot LOVES the Jurassic Park movies but of course the only reason he likes is because he likes seeing the dinosaurs killing people. He even likes "The Lost World" and "Jurassic Park III", when I told him alot of people hate those movies he said "Who? I'll kick there ass!" And of course he wants a fourth one to be made because he said: "It's a great storyline." (What do you know about a great storyline anyway?) He even told me his own Idea for the fourth one which was Billy and the kid from the third movie somehow end up on the island and end up getting chased by raptors and stuff.



On a kinda different note I wish I was still in school so I could show him this topic and prove to him that I'm not crazy like he thinks I am.

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Unfortunately, this mentality is only getting worse. Here's an article addressing the issue:

http://www.soundonsight.org/the-%E2%80%9Cgray-ones%E2%80%9D-fade-to-bl ack/

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Thought Gone With The Wind was about a dog. HA HA HA!!!!! What a moron.

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Sounds like you went to school with one of the BIGGEST IDIOTS on Earth!! Too bad you didn't capture his idiocy on video and post it on YouTube!!

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God! I'm already pissed and I haven't even met the guy, but I know ignorant people like that too.

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I agree with the topic starter.

But I agree with the idiot saying that the Peter Jackson movie is better. Ofcourse it would not have been there without the original, but come on. You can't even compare the two.

The original King Kong is a classic and Peter Jackson just brought this classic to our time, with new cinematographic technology. You can't be pissed when someone notices that the new King Kong is better (in his opinion).

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Better effects don't automatically mean a better film, although I understand if people think that newer films are better than old ones. I really like the original film more than Jackson's, mainly because it has a better pace and because there's no absurd sentimentality, like Kong skating and stuff like that.

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I've dealt with people exactly like this too. The majority of people I've met are like this, actually. They act as if the world didn't exist before 1990. Of course they always use the words "old" and "boring" to describe any movie made before the 1990s, and they always talk about how the special effects are better nowadays. But I personally don't think you should watch a movie for special effects, you should watch a movie for the story and characters. It's scary to think that decades from now, any movie made before 1990 will fade into oblivion and become obscure because all the people who love them and grew up watching them will be gone. There will be no one left to preserve their memory and films like Transformers and Avatar will be recognized as the most classic movies of all time. I cringe at the thought of it. But the way I see it, they're the ones who are missing out. I see it like they are choosing to have McDonald's while we're having a gourmet meal because most movies today (not all, there are plenty of great movies from the last 20 years; but not nearly as many as the past) can never compare to the classics from 1920-1979.

Come, fly the teeth of the wind. Share my wings.

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be he thinks anything in a forgin language or anything in b&w sucks, hate these young people these days

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pidakfan253: Your "idiot" friend sounds like a hopeless philistine


And, sadly, a sign of the times.


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I'm about to watch King Kong online and one comment on it's page is "Compare this version from 1933 and the one from 2005 -bunch of crazy smiles-".

There's a lot of stupid people in this world.

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Half of those things are opinions. Opinions of that nature don't fall under being uneducated. So please, get off your high horse.

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Congrats to the OP not being an idiot and forget about that idiot! I never really saw the original myself but I know damn well that it was groundbreaking for it's time.

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Good on you for discovering classic and older films at age 11! I had parents who wouldn't watch anything black and white so it took me a while longer. I think kids and younger people make assumptions about old films (I know I did) but it's such a pleasant surprise when you see how well they have held up over time.

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I think Disney movies are meant for generally anyone...That's why they have a song in Hunchback of Notredame, where a priest is singing about how he wants to have sex with Esmeralda, but can't.

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Tell him that METROPOLIS and KING KONG are very very well known films!
Also all the others and NO really NO remake can be better than the original!

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Wow. Pridak253. Talk about being surrounded by idiots. This is a case of SBIS (Surrounded By Idiots Syndrome). A lot of people in my high-school don't know s*** about pop-culture. I have to end up correcting them. When they hear the word bad stuff, they think of porn (even if it isn't). It's terrible when you're surrounded by idiots.
Nobody understands you. Especially your teachers. That's the eight-hundred pound gorilla in the room (no pun intended).

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Well, that character was a dumb@$$, but what I'd like to know is what kind of lame high school is this that has classes about this kind of subject when it ought to be educating the important subjects that pre-college kids need. You don't need a class to appreciate film, and your idiot classmate needs to take something else anyway.

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My high school didn't have a film class. I would just talk about movies and he would make those comments.

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Sorry about that. It sounded as if you were describing a course in film studies. I suppose that's very possible as a topic in a fine arts class anyway.

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it's really just a shame that people like that are allowed the opportunity to vote ... kind of explains why this country is in the state it is in ...

most people like that, as i'm sure you'll find out in your life, are spouting off only to get attention and to try and make themselves look "smart" by constantly being contrary to whatever views are espoused in the conversation ... did your teacher roll their eyes (or a similar non-verbal 'comment') when this person made their comment about younger people knowing what's good? that should tell you something lol ... most teachers stay indifferent out of habit since getting into an argument with a student isn't a good thing to do but occasionally they'll let a sharper student (as you appear to be) know their true feelings about another student or a comment the student has made ...

but as i mentioned at the outset, i'm afraid there will be lots of people like this whose path you will cross ... just grit your teeth and go on with your life ... don't waste time and energy on arguing with them or trying to get them to see things in another way ... people like that don't want to see things in another way ... they just want to run off at the mouth and act as if they are superior ... don't let it upset you ... just know that you have studied the subject matter and have arrived at a level headed opinion yet are open to reasonable viewpoints from others :)

was there even a dog IN 'Gone With The Wind'?? lol



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There's a lot of idiots in this world. Just a few moments ago on youtube, some dumb-ass said that Godzilla was more influential and overall "better" because there's been more Godzilla movies and toys, and because "King Kong was killed by biplanes".

Some peoples idiocy knows no bounds.

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A whole genre of Japanese science fiction, for better and worse, wouldn't exist without GODZILLA....but would GODZILLA have been made if KING KONG didn't exist? Toho's special effects man Eiji Tsuburaya was a big fan of the original KING KONG and dreamed of creating an iconic monster of his own.

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Well, that's why you called him an idiot - that's what he is. You can't with reason somebody that doesn't have a brain.

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I'm in Grade 8, and, I'm one of the only students who are open, appreciative, are into classic films AND newer ones, they have to be good though, and have VARIETY.

I *beep* hate this generation, and CANADA is where it happens.

I really want to move to, the US, or the UK.





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Why does it bother you so much, OP? And how does that make him an idiot?

I would certainly disagree with his film taste, but thats what makes film so great...its subjective. If someone's favorite movie is Catwoman and they hate Kubrick films what does it matter? I will like what I like and they will like what they like (Catwoman or whatever).

I guess I just don't understand why people get mad when someone disagrees with their film choices. It doesn't bother me in the slightest.

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It wasn't that I hated that he disliked older movies, I was more angered at how petty his reasons for disliking them were, I mean he said the original King Kong sucks solely because the special effects don't compare with today's standards. That seemed to be a consistent criticism he had, he would say whether or not a movie was bad based solely on the quality of the special effects, and if the movie was made before the advent of CGI then it was doomed from the start. If the movie had a remake then to him the remake was better by default.

I'm also mostly saddened by how he personifies the modern moviegoer, adoring the latest Hollywood blockbuster and being blissfully unaware of timeless classics and if he is aware promptly declares them to be terrible because they don't have a bunch of CGI, explosions, and ADHD editing.

In regards to the idiot remark, maybe it wasn't appropriate in this context but if you were to talk to this person he displayed a lot of ignorance with other topics. For example he thinks the United States is a christian nation despite our constitution and founding fathers saying otherwise, and when I brought up the freedom of religion part of the first amendment he said it only applied to christianity.

Anyway it's been 3 years I've moved on, this thread was made when this person was still fresh in my mind and I wanted to see what people thought of the things he said.

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Wow. I'm not entirely sure about the 4th and 8th thing, but everything else you described in your original post reminds me of this guy:

http://www.imdb.com/user/ur23422774/



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i've come across many idiots like that myself, it's never pleasant when they make themselves known, if i met that guy you speak of, i think i might have killed him, don't know how you didn't, that's some remarkable restraint on your part. the things you quote him saying remind me a lot of the mentality that went around my school, immature, self righteous, narcissistic and unbelievably arrogant, not nice memories. watch out for people like that, they're everywhere, dam philistines.

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I know how you feel. There is someone in my school who is LITERALLY just like that

-Thinks that any movie in black and white is stupid
-Thinks that no one cares about story/character development or depth in movies
-Thinks Battleship and Transformers are the best movies ever
-When I said that Avatar basically ripped off the plot of Dances with Wolves, he referred to DwW as "an old movie no one's heard of"
-Has never heard of the Sopranos

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Give them time. Can anyone say they have never been an idiot?

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I don't think I'd call Avatar a rip-off. It's a pretty old formula.

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I hope your friend died.

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And knowing all of this, he is going to graduate huh? Sobering thought.

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-Thought Gone with the Wind was about a dog.


Okay, this made me laugh out loud? Why? WHY??? 😁

I hope this isn't a film class or that guy is gonna flunk!


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And I'll bet the dope voted for Obama twice, lives in mommy's basement & litters this site with votes of 1 star for any movie that is of any quality

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I bet he supports Trump in 2016.

Janet! Donkeys!

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Did either of you get promoted to sixth grade?

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One day I was talking with a teacher about how younger people today have no appreciation for older movies and he butted in by saying "Thats because we know whats good!"


This discussion probably happens in every high school every year.

I went to school in the 80s and I remember having a discussion with a teacher about how I thought movies "today" were way better than the old days - although I was huge fan of old movies so I didn't think they sucked. Still love this movie, the Universal horror movies, etc.

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The guy is a dunce. People like that are so dumb they are not worth the effort of trying to convince.

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-When I told him about how no one had seen special effects like the ones in King Kong back in 1933 he said: "Well if you were to take the remake to back then they would be like (proceeds to make faces of exaggerated amazement)"


There is some truth to that last one.
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