Audio Equipment and Home Theater Audio : Who has a BOSE music system?

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You misread the original post, and have been leading us on for this whole time! You don't have a Bose MUSIC system, you have 5 Bose speakers. Bose speakers are fine, priced in line with their quality. $300-$400 for bookshelf speakers is entry level, and the Bose stuff is pretty good.

A Bose MUSIC system has an acoustimass module which almost always acts as the speaker level connections of the system. It often simulates surround sound through two speakers, or it has a build in dvd player which works as both the player and the amplifier. These systems are overpriced, sound ok, and are idiot proof. Setup is simple, but performance for the price is not in line with most brands.

Many of us here, as previously mentioned, have spent more on an individual component than these Bose systems cost, but could easily build a better system than a Bose system for less money. It won't be as simple, but it will sound awesome!

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I own a Bose Acoustimass® 7 speaker system which consists of 3 double cubed speakers two front left and two front right and two center and a control module hooked through my reciever with two rear( one left ,one right) Polk book shelf speakers for my total surround system and recently upgraded from Sony 5.1 AV reciever to a Yamaha 665 7.1 AV reciever.

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*facepalm

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I'm guessing from your post here and the way you talk you're about 15yo? right?


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No, a regular poster/lurker on Fark.com and some of my snarky post would be what some of those posters would say.

Yeeeah..Go try out Fark... <evil grin>

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http://www.intellexual.net/bose.html

That should be all the info you need.

I'm going to eat your brains and gain your knowledge.

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Please don't try to confuse the OP with facts. Better men have tried <grin>


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Spoken like a true Toyota sales person! I can sell you a couple prius they are the best cars in the world!


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Bose = Overpriced Crap!

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Well yeah....lol it is overpriced. I just recently brought one back in April and yeah it is expensive. It has great quaility sound. I really don't see why it is priced so high.

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It's Like Justifying the price of a Dennon or Pioneer elite system you want the best it's gonna cost you!

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Except atleast Denon gives you what your money is worth, unlike Bose.

I can just about remember the time, when 'human suspect' was a given, not an option.

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It's Like Justifying the price of a Dennon or Pioneer elite system you want the best it's gonna cost you!

Well if it's BOSE it will cost you total lack of highs and lows.

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please, there's really no use trying to argue Wildspringer with logical arguments, as he's just so in love with his distorted and lacking Bose "sound", that he won't read or understand anything said to him.

the funny thing is, that he's constantly bringing up the argument of "high priced systems" not being superior or worth the cost, while he fails to understand that Bose itself is vastly overpriced and a system of much higher quality can be obtained for a lesser price.

granted, you'll have to get the speakers, player(s) and amplifier separately. and there's no Bose-logo.

I can just about remember the time, when 'human suspect' was a given, not an option.

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Truth be told ,I've seen many people go out and spend way more than the price of the best bose theartre system. Their system doesnt sound any better than the Bose system. I've stated before that I have gone ointo these Specialty Hi-fi design places that do nothing more but rake you of your hard earned money to produce nothing more than what i can get from the bose system already offers. People will spend $300.00 on cables alone and thousands on so called speakers with horned tweeters. The end result is not much different from the same sound that Bose gives you for a fraction of their cost.

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Their system doesnt sound any better than the Bose system.
Anything that costs as much as a Bose system sounds better.

I've stated before that I have gone ointo these Specialty Hi-fi design places that do nothing more but rake you of your hard earned money to produce nothing more than what i can get from the bose system already offers.
Bah, go to a real store. start by looking for one that doesn't sell Bose.

People will spend $300.00 on cables alone and thousands on so called speakers with horned tweeters.
Still wiser than paying for Bose.

The end result is not much different from the same sound that Bose gives you for a fraction of their cost.
again and again, it's not about whether some system more expensive then Bose is better, it's just that

9 TIMES OUT OF 10, ANY SYSTEM THAT COSTS THE SAME AS BOSE DOES IS BETTER.

I can just about remember the time, when 'human suspect' was a given, not an option.

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I did go to a real store,Best Buy in fact had a listening room where I listened to about 5-6 different stereo set ups and Bose won for me! I love the Bose system and will stand by it 100%!


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I did go to a real store,Best Buy in fact




I can just about remember the time, when 'human suspect' was a given, not an option.

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"I did go to a real store,Best Buy in fact had a listening room where I listened to about 5-6 different stereo set ups and Bose won for me! I love the Bose system and will stand by it 100%!"

Best Buy, LOL, And you will stand by it 100%, sure, and I bet you would let Micheal Jackson babysit your kids.

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Why do you keep bringing up Michael Jackson in a stereo/audio sound discussion?
We all know he was a musical Genius whom was loved and appreciated by the masses throughout the world and sold Millions upon Millions of top hit records. We all know he broke records for sales and popular culture recognitions.
We all know his gifted talent has never seen or duplicated in comparison to any other musical artist of this century. So why must you bring his notewothy existance up here other that to aknowledge his many accolades in his life and ours.We all know he was charged and tried for wrongful accusation and found innocent in a court of law.If you want to compare his brillant music and then include that to listening test results with a sound system, then I can see your point.

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*slowly backs out of this thread....






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"Why do you keep bringing up Michael Jackson in a stereo/audio sound discussion? "

Because I know you are Wacko for Jacko, and claiming that Bose has good sound shows the same irrational judgment as letting Jacko babysit your kids.

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Truth be told ,I've seen many people go out and spend way more than the price of the best bose theartre system. Their system doesnt sound any better than the Bose system.

Just exactly how long have you been deaf?

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WHAT!WHAT did you Say? HUH! I thought I heard sumfin!
read my lips Bose Sounds Wonderful!I never said i was deaf!

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read my lips Bose Sounds Wonderful!

I bet you like the broad full range of AM radio.

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read my lips Bose Sounds Wonderful!I never said i was deaf!
According to your personal completely subjective opinion Bose sounds good. According to objective measurements Bose is an epic failure.

which one should be concidered?

I can just about remember the time, when 'human suspect' was a given, not an option.

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This is not going to be a pro- or anti-Bose post. I'll explain both sides of the issue for those willing to read a little...

There's a tendency for conversation about Bose to get pretty out of hand. Let me first state I have had Bose systems, ranging from the Roommate II (probably the most reliable computer speaker pair ever made) to the custom Bose Beta systems put in early 2000's models of Mercedes Benz, before they switched to Harman Kardon, which are designed around the acoustics of those specific car models... and do surprisingly well to the ears of people who constantly piss and moan about Bose. BUT I do not have Bose for my main home theater, and there are a few good reasons for that.

First, it helps to have a little background.... Bose was founded by MIT engineering professor, Dr. Amar Bose as a response to the horrid consumer speaker systems of the 1950's and 1960's. He was dissatisfied with the inefficiency of output from those systems. Bose is today the largest privately held loudspeaker manufacturer that, because it is not beholden to shareholders with quarterly expectations, can spend tremendous amounts of money on R&D.

This being said, what they do and do well is design and development of EFFICIENT sound systems... NOT accurate sound reproduction.

If what you want is accuracy of sound reproduction, then you need to look at full-range speakers. It isn't necessarily the case that higher price will produce perceptible benefit. You can buy a $140,000 pair of Westlake SM-1's but will it be proportionately better than a $2000 pair of KEF's? A lot of people spend a lot of time convincing themselves of that (usually to justify their exorbitant purchase), but just like eyesight, human hearing has a threshold of perception.

I would say that Bose is a good, inexpensive way to get big sound out of a small package... but it's not very accurate reproduction with a flat response. It just comes down to what you prefer and what you can afford.

On the other hand, if you're willing to buy used equipment you may find some mid-range systems at a bargain. Just don't get suckered into spending a fortune on speaker cables or interconnects!

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but it's not very accurate reproduction with a flat response. It just comes down to what you prefer and what you can afford.
Flat here meaning that the system itself doesn't add or remove anything to the source, ie the response is flat without any overemphasis on anything.

not that it necessarily sounds "flat", basically it's supposed to sound the way it's meant to sound.

I can just about remember the time, when 'human suspect' was a given, not an option.

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Allow me to clarify what I mean by "flat response" (in the very specific sound engineering sense of the term)

One of the characteristics of accurate reproduction is a perfectly flat response curve. One of the weaknesses of Bose systems is that, being single-driver enclosures using acoustic waveguides to increase efficiency output, they aren't capable of producing a flat frequency response curve.

A response curve is said to be "flat" when at 1 meter, the sound pressure level output of the speakers (in decibels) remains constant from the low to the high end of the human range of hearing, i.e. the A-Weighted Spectrum.



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I have a question, I think of flat being flat 20hz------------20khz. I can not find anytype of graph or spec showing what the Boze Speakers reproduce. So how does one know what one is buying ? How would one set up a 5.1 system without knowing this ? Yes I do know, one can take in room measurements. However I want to see what I am buying ! Where is the spec info for these speakers ?

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It's never published. Bose uses cheap automobile style drivers with paper cones that I recall correctly, are about $4 apiece.

The system is designed for a boost in treble and midrange, then a severe dropoff after about 80hz.

Entire sections of the frequency range are missing but don't try to tell the OP that, we've all tried.

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It's never published.
That is why there are independent researchers who test the frequency responses:
intellexual.net/bose.html
headphoneinfo.com/content/Bose-QuietComfort-2-Headphones-Review/Perfor mance.htm

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Awesome! I forgot about that link.

Thanks!

I try to stay out of this thread as much as possible. ;-)

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Interesting observation on the first link, intellexual.net...

The one Bose system they post stats on shows a sensitivity of ~85dB. That's pretty bad. Your average loudspeaker system should have above 89dB sensitivity, ideally 91-93dB.

Sensitivity tells you more about the efficiency of the speaker than the power handling and max SPL do.

Since dB is a logarithmic scale, every +3dB represents a doubling of power. So a speaker with 92dB sensitivity can output a 1kHz tone at any given sound pressure level at 40 watts that a speaker with 89dB would require 80 watts to put out. At 85dB sensitivity, it would require a little over 160 watts to equal that sound pressure output.

But I expect this kind of lousy output from any "satellite" speaker system regardless of the manufacturer. A properly designed full range system of 3-way towers generally doesn't have below 89dB sensitivity.

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This is basically what an ideal frequency response curve, tailored to the A-weighted (human hearing) spectrum would look like: http://www.tpub.com/neets/book8/0033.GIF

No speakers have this flat of a response, but that's the ideal toward which loudspeaker manufacturers should strive. Some frequency response roll-off is to be expected in steps greater than -3dB at frequencies above 15kHz approaching 20kHz.

Most human ears have decreased hearing response above 15kHz, and it continues to roll off. In younger adults it starts to fall off closer to 17.5kHz. At 20kHz, even the average teenager has such low sensitivity they can barely perceive such a frequency. That 20kHz figure you hear is just a nice round number that represents a typical absolute maximum limit beyond which nothing can be perceived by the vast majority of humans.

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the Genelec 8260A has a flat frequency response +- 1db 29hz-21khz. Add one of their heavier subs, and you're pretty much there.
I can just about remember the time, when 'human suspect' was a given, not an option.

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I have a brilliant Bose docking station for IPod and am really impressed with the sound quality. However I want the Lifestyle 48 Surround sound system, but it's above my budget at the moment. A thing of beauty! http://www.lifestyle48.com/

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I once met Anwar Bose in the company of a couple of young and cocky hardware engineers, one of whom asked him why he charged such high prices for such basic kit. His answer was 'Because I can.'

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I've got a 'Companion 3-2-1' I believe it's called (not the latest model 'companion 3') http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.buybestprices.com/ima ges/Bose-Companion-3-2-1-channel-PC-multimedia-speaker-system-black-si lver.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.buybestprices.com/Camera-Case-for-Sa msung-i8-i70-i85-CL5-L77-L100-L110-L200-L210-L730-L830-NV3-NV4-NV30-NV 40-S760-S860-SL310W-NV100HD-SL201-SL202-TL34HD-SL820-SL620-SL310-SL102 -SL420-TL9-SL720-SL30-AQ100-TX5-W310-W320-W350-W380-and-more-&usg= __crsU7TIOInQpwlrrhi6lvcEfTZI=&h=244&w=280&sz=14&hl=en &start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=Sj-YPtlmw1LJNM:&tbnh=139&tbn w=160&ei=AllRTYnsJsyChQfDlNXgCA&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbose%2Bcomp anion%2B3-2-1%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rlz%3D1R2SUNA_enGB417%26bi w%3D1659%26bih%3D725%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&am p;vpx=1271&vpy=77&dur=1410&hovh=195&hovw=224&tx=16 7&ty=66&oei=AllRTYnsJsyChQfDlNXgCA&esq=1&page=1&nd sp=36&ved=1t:429,r:7,s:0 I wasn't sure what to expect as the speakers are so small compared to the type of system I had before ( example http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5137686/c_1/1%7Ccateg ory_root%7CHome+entertainment+and+sat+nav%7C14419512/c_2/2%7C14419512% 7CHome+audio+and+hi-fi+systems%7C14419513/c_3/3%7Ccat_14419513%7CMini+ audio+systems%7C14419516.htm), but when I plugged it up I was so impressed with the quality of the sound that came out of these two little speakers and the bass that comes out of the "boom box". I still am to this day. I've got it connected to a Wave System so I can hear TV, music, radio and films etc through it.

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I've got a Bose Radio and a Companion 3 Multimedia Speaker System (Subwoofer and 2 speakers). Can listen to the radio, CDs, audio CDs. Plug it up to your Blu-Ray/DVD player. It's the best audio system I've owned.

"Time to find out..."

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...and the other you've owned are?

I can just about remember the time, when 'human suspect' was a given, not an option.

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I can't remember model numbers but the usual, Aiwa, Panasonic, Sony, Philips, etc etc.

"Time to find out..."

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all ready-sets? the whole set in one box, bought from the place that mainly sells washing machines and some "hifi" on the side?

no wonder.

I can just about remember the time, when 'human suspect' was a given, not an option.

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On the side? I don't buy my stuff off a lorry. With respect, what's up yur arse?

"Time to find out..."

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with no respect what-so-ever, it's basically just sad when people buy "hifi" from the same store that sold them their fridge a week back. and the "hifi" is a ready-set, of course.

point being, that my guess - which seems to be true - you've never heard a good entry level hifi-set so your high regard of bose is based on you having even worse sets before.

or i'm totally wrong.

about a thousand bucks at a real hifi-store would get you a decent this-is-my-first-set 2.1 system.

I can just about remember the time, when 'human suspect' was a given, not an option.

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Yeah, because Bose don't have a rep for being the dogs bollocks when it comes to audio.

"Time to find out..."

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my opinion about bose aside - it's already clearly stated on this thread - my point was that you really have nothing decent to compare your bose to.

I can just about remember the time, when 'human suspect' was a given, not an option.

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...well, this board was pretty dead, so...


I can just about remember the time, when 'human suspect' was a given, not an option.
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