Near Dark : Finding it hard to understand the great deal of appreciation for this.

Finding it hard to understand the great deal of appreciation for this.

Whilst not, in my opinion a bad film. I think it has generated a lot of overh-hyped praise. The problems I had were; the acting (with the exception of the excellent Paxton, Hendrikson and whoever plays the young vampire)I found Caleb and Mae very uncharismatic protagonists and the performances were weak. A lot of reviewers cite the chemistry between the two but I cant see this at all. I also found some scenes or sequences were poorly executed such as Mae killing the truck driver, this was almost devoid of any tension or build up, and the actually kill lacks any punch. Also whilst the bar scene was admittedly excellent I felt that Jesse's seduction of the waitress before her death was relatively unseductive, if this aspect hadve been ramped up I felt that the scene wouldve gained a lot more gravity. Cinematography was fine overall, impressive use of night, shadows and the neon seediness of the soutern setting is portrayed well. The score by Tangerine Dream is one of the highlights for me. The films premise and general tone was also interesting and I greatly prefer this to The Lost Boys.

Like I said, this is not a bad film at all and it certainly has a few good things going for it, but perhaps someone could explain how and why this has gained cult status and what its fanbase find so great about it.

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I just watched it for the first time based on score and cast....pretty disappointing. I'm sure when it came out it was good and nostalgia is a helluva drug for many....but to fresh eyes in 2013 this film was far from a 7.0 rating.

More like 4/10.

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You guys are kidding, right? I mean, you're kidding?

It's ATMOSPHERE is tangible!

It's the tone and feel of the movie that lingers. You didn't get that feeling? That it crawled right up your spine?

The score, the flawless performances, the beauty of the cinematography, come on, what did you want?

Near Dark is an EXPERIENCE. You have to give in to it.

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"Let me do it Jesse, let me tap dance on Niall93!"

****"Some folks call it a sling blade I call it a kaiser blade hmm hmm!"****

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I got the feeling for the first 20 minutes or so....And yes, the score is nice but other than that I failed to see what was so great about it either. It didn't help that there was no vampire make up either. I love 80's horror films but this one didn't do anything for me, sadly.

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Well actually almost every movie since the turn of the century has been *beep* so based on your remarks, you are one tasteless bastard. Go watch your Entourage in 4K and leave the real movies to someone else.

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I'm watching it as I type...I am in the middle of the bar scene..and I am wishing that Blade would show up and waste all of these trailer park trash vampires...they have no style.

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I'm writing this very late. Things were very different in the 80s, and movies like Twilight didn't exist yet. Probably everything about Near Dark was rumors,but it was so perfect for me.

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I also don't get it either, the self-destructive way the "family" is portrayed I don't see how it is possible they lasted 150 days, let alone 150 years. They have all the time in the world, no reason to rush in and get revenge a couple of hours before sunrise. The cure method is also stupid.

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Agreed. The dumbest group of vampires known to man. You'd think vampires that have been around for even a year wouldn't make the same mistakes these decades and centuries old vampires make. There was just so much stuff about this movie that didn't make sense. Why did the small vampire want the little girl so badly? I know Mae betrayed him. But he had millions of other women and girls he could have turned that would have stayed with him. Why try so hard for the little girl?

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My 22 year old son and I started watching "Near Dark" last night. At about 45 minutes, we both came to the conclusion that this was boring us to tears. I'll give it 4/10, only because I didn't give the whole movie a chance to see whether it deserved a 2 or 3. We DVRed it off of HBO. We stopped watching, deleted and watched Buster Keaton in "Seven Chances" (9/10) instead.

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My 22 year old son and I started watching "Near Dark" last night.

Were you too busy making out to pay attention?

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Poorly Lived and Poorly Died, Poorly Buried and No One Cried

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The problem most people have with this movie is that it is not the your typical horror movie.

People see bill paxton andmost likely think "man he is bloody this is gona be bloody good.
And then they find thems elf in what i like to cal atmospheric horror, it is slow paced and it is more about characters then the horror.
Yes the movie is slow paced and to me the end made little sence.
But the characters are well crafted, they are evil but there is an underlying theme to them.
They were vampires although that word is never used.

HomAr ( people always seem to get it wrong he spells his name with an a and not an e) was a sad creature, he felt misunderstood, he was a 40 year old man in the body of a child. Even he wanted to have s*x people wouldnt becuas of the way he looked. he had turned mae as a sort of sister thing, someone who would also turn old in a young body, but when caleb got turned that dream shattered, and finding a young girl around his looking age would give him just that. Seeing the places they went to to feed he never met a child his "age" as it was late in the night and most slept around that time. that is why there is a obsession , he had within reach something he longed for.

In most movies vampires are thrilled they will live forever but Homar did not feel that way as he was misunderstood by the rest in the group.


Yes caleb and mea their chemistry did not reallyw ork for me either and caled is kinda scary when he parks the car and makes her kiss him.

But for the rest i think that homar thing and the underlying kinship they have is what makes this movie so enjoyable, it is not the your avverage vampire movie, they could have been a family of mass murders and not just vampires that kill .

what doesn't kill you hasn't been done properly.

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HomAr ( people always seem to get it wrong he spells his name with an a and not an e)


Nope. It's Homer with an E. That's the way he spells it, that's the way it's written in the ending credits.

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The problem most people have with this movie is that it is not the your typical horror movie.

People see bill paxton andmost likely think "man he is bloody this is gona be bloody good.
And then they find thems elf in what i like to cal atmospheric horror, it is slow paced and it is more about characters then the horror.
Yes the movie is slow paced and to me the end made little sence.
But the characters are well crafted, they are evil but there is an underlying theme to them.
They were vampires although that word is never used.

HomAr ( people always seem to get it wrong he spells his name with an a and not an e) was a sad creature, he felt misunderstood, he was a 40 year old man in the body of a child. Even he wanted to have s*x people wouldnt becuas of the way he looked. he had turned mae as a sort of sister thing, someone who would also turn old in a young body, but when caleb got turned that dream shattered, and finding a young girl around his looking age would give him just that. Seeing the places they went to to feed he never met a child his "age" as it was late in the night and most slept around that time. that is why there is a obsession , he had within reach something he longed for.

In most movies vampires are thrilled they will live forever but Homar did not feel that way as he was misunderstood by the rest in the group.


Yes caleb and mea their chemistry did not reallyw ork for me either and caled is kinda scary when he parks the car and makes her kiss him.

But for the rest i think that homar thing and the underlying kinship they have is what makes this movie so enjoyable, it is not the your avverage vampire movie, they could have been a family of mass murders and not just vampires that kill .


2 things:

1. You need to learn how to spell
2. Why the hell are you censoring the word "SEX" (s*x) like it's a vulgar word? What are you some sort of prude or something?


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I saw this on VHS a few years after it was made. It was a unique concept for a horror movie(Outlaw hillbilly vampires, whoda thunk it?)but an enjoyable one. But the problem I had with it was none of the vampires had FANGS. Vampires have to have fangs. It was a low budget movie obviously but so low budget that the producers couldn't have gotten some cheap ones for the actors and effergripped them on?
Still, it was a Kathy Bigelow directed film so it came out pretty good.
I just watched part of it tonight and I'm sorry to say that Adrian Pasdar is the victim of retro-typecasting. I was thinking Nathan Petrelli(Heroes) as a teenager.

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Yeah it's trite as feck, I think it's one of those movies that you had to have seen when it was fairly new to appreciate for nostalgic reasons in this day and age... Comparing this with Lost Boys is like comparing Justin Bieber with Michael Jackson

I'm gonna refuse you an offer you can't make

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it started out great but went down pretty hard, i would have liked it more if the story concentrated more on Caleb and Mae's relationship






so many movies, so little time

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To an extent I understand what the OP means, and I love this movie. My guess is the OP is under 35 and watched it bc he heard great things about it, but like he said, it was good but not cult status. For me, the best way to explain it is to say back when it came out, there were no vampire movies like it. You had your Dracula vampires, and Salem's Lot ones, but the Lost Boys may be the only thing close to it at the time. People were hungry for a new type of vampire movie where they were cool and different I think. You also have the group who was originally drawn to it like myself bc of the number of people who were in Aliens. And there is always something cool about liking a movie that wasn't a block buster that you thought was cool and could recommend.
And last, I also attribute it to that local restaurant you had and loved growing up. It was only in your town and everyone loved it there. So when a friend from out of town comes, you want to take them there and you are expecting them to rave about it and love it like you do. To your dismay, they say it's good. Nothing great and certainly not bad, but not the life changing experience you wanted them to have. Part of what you love about it you realize, is not that the food is amazing, but it's the memories and experiences you had there that helped make you love the restaurant so much. The food is good but it's the total package of memories that no one can experience in one visit. I have had this experience many times when I have recommend Near Dark. And the younger the people are, the more they seem to not understand the hype. I have no longer tried to convert people to Nesr Dark. I recommend it, but my expectations that anyone new watching it will appreciate as much as I do is pretty much gone. And I actually understand why. But for me it will always be a special movie.

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I agree. Its not a bad movie, but I don't get the praise for it either.


Poorly Lived and Poorly Died, Poorly Buried and No One Cried

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Just watched it for the first time. It got off to a really good start, loved the idea of it and then...

Well, some of the acting was bad, the special effects were lacking, but above all the movie is riddled with things that do not make any sense.

The moment Mae said she's gonna be around for a billion years and then almost died because she forgot that morning is coming really painted a good picture of how much the entire group would last with their behavior.

The night changed into day in an instant several times when it was appropriate and some vampires seem to catch fire way way way more easily than others if it helps the plot.

It is way too badly made to be compared to Lost Boys, but still doesn't evoke B movie fun, nor does it have the atmosphere of Fright Night. It has a lot of potential, but fails to live to it due to all the shortcomings. Done right, it would've been great, but this way... a generous 6/10 from me.



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I just finished seeing the movie for the first time on Jan 24th 2017 a moment ago and while it's decent enough for a viewing it's not a movie ill re-watch and that's what ultimately makes or breaks movies in the long term. i gave it a 5/10 (Thumbs Down).

the best movie from the director by far is... Point Break (1991) (8/10 ; which makes it within my Top 63 movies).

even amongst the vampire genre the best by far is... Interview with the Vampire (1994) (8/10 ; within my Top 63 movies). my second choice would likely be... Byzantium (2012-2013)(6-6.5/10) which happens to be from the same director as Interview with the Vampire.


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I can see where it might not be everyone's "cup of tea", but I do place it near the top (actually in the top 5) of my favorite movies. I love the cast, the tone, the music, pretty much everything about it. I have the poster framed and hanging in my living room. :)
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