The Haunting of Julia : Pre-Heimlich - SPOILER
Re: Pre-Heimlich - SPOILER
unfortunately, it still happens all the time
Re: Pre-Heimlich - MAJOR SPOILER
Heimlich first published his findings about the maneuver in 1974, but it only really became widely known about in the 1980's. In the movie it can seem a odd but the book it explains it a bit differently. Kate didn't die from asphyxiation, she bled to death after Julia tried an emergency Tracheotomy, this ties in with Olivia Rudge. Both were Magnus Lofting's daughter (Olivia by Heather, Kate by Julia) and both died after being stabbed by their mothers. Julia spends most of the story believing it was Magnus who killed Kate while trying to save her. Her acknowledgement of the truth is the final piece that allows Olivia to act through her. When Olivia kills Julia daughter kills mother (Julia was in effect her step-mother) and this forms the "Full Circle" of the title.
Huh..?
Did I miss a part of the movie? You're saying that Magnus had another daughter with the old woman in the crazy home?
I'm not a control freak, I just like things my way
I'm not a control freak, I just like things my way
Re: Huh..?
I think that was only in the book, not the movie.
"I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus."
"Didn't he discover America?"
"Penfold, shush."
Re: Pre-Heimlich - SPOILER
Totally disagree with you. I've watched someone choke and nobody knew what to do. I went to help, not knowing or understanding anything of Heimlich (but, strangely, was doing the right thing). I had the victim pretty much sorted, but then the hysterical mother charged in, assaulted me with a whack to the head, knocking me out of the way, verbally abusing me, and almost killing her son in the process. He survived, fortunately.
People *beep* up. As I am sure you have... 'cause you sure did in your idiotic post.
People *beep* up. As I am sure you have... 'cause you sure did in your idiotic post.
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Re: Pre-Heimlich - SPOILER
Fair play to you Cinedude. But in the heat of a moment people can panic or just freeze and the fewer people around the greater the chance that no one will know what to do. Much the same thing happened to me when I was a kid in the mid 70's and choked on a piece of chicken at a family dinner. Over a dozen people were there including my Dad who was a first aider had no-one had any idea about Heimlich so it was just good luck that as he was holding me and slapping my back he slipped on my spilt milk. As he fell his arm tightened around me causing much the same effect or I wouldn't be here to type this...
Re: Pre-Heimlich - SPOILER
This may sound strange but, I've heard (in some hysteria cases) that you have to ask permission first. It's just what I've heard.
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And I was refering to a cinematic moment, not one of true life. People have compassion, as I am sure you don't...given your idiotic response to a Mother's reaction at her child in distress.
Re: Pre-Heimlich - SPOILER
I agree with the OP. Even if you ignore the Heimlich Maneuver, the way they went about it was absolutely moronic.
Re: Pre-Heimlich - SPOILER
Even if you ignore the Heimlich Maneuver, the way they went about it was absolutely moronic.
I rather agree. How did Julia think CUTTING OPEN her daughter's throat was going to NOT make her bleed to death?! She's not a licensed medic, how did she know she wasn't going to slice her carotid artery??
Something along the lines of the Heimlich maneuver would seem like common sense; squeezing up behind one's diaphragm would make sense wouldn't it?
"I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus."
"Didn't he discover America?"
"Penfold, shush."
Re: Pre-Heimlich - SPOILER
Actually, in the 70s a Tracheotomy, cutting the windpipe, to restore breathing was the standard practice for medical and emergency personel in these sorts of choking incidents if you couldn't pull out the obstruction or pound on their back hard enough to dislodge it.
Contextually, the parents did the right sort of things, but they failed.
I'm old enough that I actually lived through that time, I remember stories of dinner table tracheotomys.
Contextually, the parents did the right sort of things, but they failed.
I'm old enough that I actually lived through that time, I remember stories of dinner table tracheotomys.
Re: Pre-Heimlich - SPOILER
I agree that there were (and still are!) 'field' trachs done. But the same literature that tells of these practices warns that they MUST be done by qualified personnel...and often even paramedics are not considered qualified!
I once read where a medic got in trouble for performing one in what he considered an emergency, but he didn't radio in for 'authorization and instruction'.
"I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus."
"Didn't he discover America?"
"Penfold, shush."
Pre-Heimlich - SPOILER
"She's choking, what do I do?"
"Stick your finger down her throat!"
Given this beginning you can't help but spend the rest movie viewing the grieving Julia as a dillweed and a simpering fool.
That said the soft focus lens does Mia Farrow justice. If this type of cinematography is something you enjoy, tune into "Haunting of Julia." But if it is a good script and a great yarn you are looking for in a "haunting" movie, pray someone around you knows the Heimlich because this movie is certain to leave you gagging.
C