Steel Magnolias : Talk about Racist

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What if someone took an all black movie and made in white ?

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Agreed, but why on earth
remake it for tv

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The problem was that it was a made for tv movie and they tried to stay with the original script but added all sorts of modern things like Beyonce and such. The original didn't refer to anything in pop culture.


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Could you imagine a white color purple? The outrage quit remaking classics!

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There are some plots that are the same regardless of the color of the actors in them.

And there are some that could only star black folks - ones with blacks as slaves during the Civil War for example.

The only problem I have with this movie is the same I had with the first one. Shelby knows if she gets pregnant her health goes straight down the drain, but of course she "has" to give her husband a son to save their marriage. What a horrible message.

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Just to clarify, because you sound a little bitter. That decision was Shelby's alone. Her husband said in the original movie that they could adopt.

Actually in the original Shelby is

telling her mom about the pregnancy...

Shelby: Mama, I want a child.
M'Lynn: What about adoption? You've filled out all the applications.
Shelby: Mama, no judge is gonna give a baby to someone with my medical records. Jackson even put out feelers about buying one.
M'Lynn: People do it all the time.
Shelby: Listen to me. I want a child of my own. <b>I think it would help things a lot.</b>
M'Lynn: I see.

They never really explain that, but it could mean she's having problems in her marriage...although I can't imagine why.

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Shelby: Listen to me. I want a child of my own. I think it would help things a lot.
M'Lynn: I see.


Deevine1, I noticed that the music changed to a minor (tragic-sounding) key when she said that. I figured that she was referring to her own mortality & that she wanted to leave a part of herself behind. An adopted child would not be the same because the child wouldn't share her genes.

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"I think it would help things a lot."

At the time she (Julia) said it, and the way she said it, I also thought it was perhaps a problem in their marriage, that maybe Jackson was not really that enthusiastic about having a child that didn't have his genes...

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maybe if it wasn't based on a true story -- it wouldn't be so bad, but this movie was written by shelby's brother - deep from his heart and soul.. so i think they should've let it alone.

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Shelby's brother is the one that wanted it remade. So, it shouldn't be an issue.

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I don't necessarily think it's racist..... but I don't understand why they are doing a black version of this movie.

The original story is a true story about a Southern White Family. I see no need for a remake at all.... much less one where they change the characters and make them Black.

I do like all the actresses they've cast, I'm just surprised any of them thought this was a good idea.




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What if someone took an all black movie and made in white ?


How is "Steel Magnolia's" a WHITE movie. Is there some subject matter in it that meant it should have only been cast with white people. The problem is that Hollywood then and now consistently cast movies with ONLY white people when the cast could consist of any race as is the case with a show like Grey's Anatomy and House where the cast is mixed and yet still popular. So black filmmakers take stories that they like and remake them with an all black cast.

Now if a black filmmaker was to take a movie like "Gone With The Wind" and make it a black family with a white maid - then that would be racist.

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Black Women and a beauty shop. Haven't we seen this before??



Usually "remakes" are done for various reasons. Hollywood thinks they can make more money, or audiences can't identify with the original.

Since the original had a primarily White cast, I can't remember if there was even a minor role that had a Black actor. They think Blacks could identify with a movie that has a Black cast.

My guess is since this is going directly to TV, that the budget is pretty small. They didn't even use the location where the story and original film were filmed. They opted instead to shoot in Georgia.






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And I think that if this wasn't based on a true story, and the real people weren't white, this particular remake wouldn't be so much of an issue. I think that the fact that this IS from a true story is what is causing all the anger and frustration.

The Color Purple is not a good comparison for two reasons. One, the roles that whites and blacks had during that era was not equal. Switching the cast in that book/film would not be able to identify with whites' in blacks' roles. Second, The Color Purple is a fictional story. Steel Magnolias is a real story. There was a real Shelby, a real Melynn (sp?), a real Clairee and Ouiza (sp?), a real Truvy, and a real Annelle.

And that is the major problem, as I stated above.

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And there is certainly nothing comparable in the "ethnic characters changed into/played by white people" department to make all the people complaining sound like bitter children complaining about something they have been actively practicing for decades or anything...

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Argument has been done to death. What if The Color Purple had an all-White cast. What if Carmen Jones was all-White too....Jesus Christ heaven forbid someone breaks the imaginary laws of art and theater by casting Black people in roles usually taken by White people. Like, really? Meanwhile the world of fandom was dang near set on fire concerning some of the cast for The Hunger Games. Nobody cared about that. It's not like afterward they can't ever show this movie again.

So what...jeez. All-Black cast? Don't like it? Don't watch.

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I like this movie and really don't care if anyone thinks I'm racist because I like this or any movie with a predominantly African-American cast! It's not like European-Americans haven't remade things African-Americans have done and called it their own!

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The writer of the original play and movie agreed to the remake and insisted it be done with an African American cast.

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It's not like European-Americans haven't remade things African-Americans have done and called it their own!

Which things?

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Which things?


Jazz & Blues come to mind, as does beat poetry (a style which really started during the Harlem Renaissance). I'm sure there are others, too.

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Armed robbery at nearby gas station. You forgot that one.

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And why don't they advertise the majority of films in Hollywood as "the all-Caucasian cast" of ...?

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While I agree with a number of films listed on the Classic Black Films list, a lot of them that were listed as "black films" were neither specifically black nor white.

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Now that would have been something to see...Fried Green Tomatoes redone with a black cast would have worked better.


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Why not? It's not a story about color. And it's not as if the setting was important as if they remade the Sound of Music with black people.

Also, I think it's important to note that it's not a remake of the other movie, it's another adaptation of the original play. Big difference.

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How about taking an all female cast and making them male?

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What if someone took an all black movie and made in white ?


You mean like Tyler Perry's films? Have at it.

Seriously though, why would anyone want to take a black film and remake it with a white cast when they can just take cooler better movies from Asians like The Ring or Infernal Affairs which was remade with an all white cast and retitled as The Departed?

Why remake Boyz n the Hood with an all white cast when you could remake Reservoir Dogs or Inception or The Godfather or Avatar or Memento or Terminator or (fill in the blank) with an all or mostly white cast?


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they can just take cooler better movies from Asians like The Ring or Infernal Affairs which was remade with an all white cast and retitled as The Departed?

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You seem like a bit of an idiot to even bring this up. The themes in this movie are universal a mothers love, dealing with a loss and having a strong group of friends around you. This can be set anywhere anytime, race shouldn't even be an issue.








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What's "racist" about doing an African-American version of a film that had a predominately white cast? Is the plot of an old movie with a white cast, supposed to be some sacred cow? I don't give a flip if a 'Black' film is remade with White actors or a 'White' movie remade with an all-Pakistani cast. The more the merrier, we're all part of the same human family and all have a similar story to tell. Anyone angered about a movie being remade with a Black cast needs to realize that there is a whole world of non-white people out there with stories to tell of love and loss exactly like any other community, including Whites. Now, imagine that. Climb out of your bubble world, OP.

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But on the flip side, who in their right mind would believe that there were ANY BLACK southern BELLES??? HA HA HA. They were all on the plantations until the 1950's when they became MAIDS. Now, they are just GHETTO with money. My skin
s crawlin.

Wow, you're an ignorant person.

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Wow. Racist much?
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