Red Dawn : I'm shocked to see that…

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This film has a 53% Rotten rate on Rotten Tomatoes.
What the hell?

To me, I thought this would've had like a 73 or higher rate than 53.

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I'm honestly surprised it's that high. This isn't a movie that's likely to sit well with movie critics for a whole host of reasons.

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And by "whole host" of reasons, he means they're mostly effete elitests who can't stand the idea of an assertive and triumphant America. Just imagine the entirety of critic-dom being populated by Barack Obama clones.

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I'm not sure you really understood this movie if you think that's what it was trying to portray.
Watch it again, I think it'll surprise you.

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"Assertive and triumphant America"? No, ignorant, racist buffoons who think that their brand of jingoism and stupidity ought to represent the USA. When I read posts like yours I feel sympathy for Al Qaeda and ISIS.

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Somehow I doubt your sympathy for such base evil required my go-ahead.

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Too little, too late, to say the least :)

To say that he owned you would be understatement of the century.
Not that someone as brainless as you would ever understand something like that.
Do the humanity a favour and dont reproduce, ever.

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I'm honestly surprised it's that high. This isn't a movie that's likely to sit well with movie critics for a whole host of reasons.


Yeah, but you and many others are still discussing it 30 years after it came out.

I don't love her.. She kicked me in the face!!

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People still discuss Plan 9 from Outer Space, but certainly NOT because it's good. It's junk.

I suspect Red Dawn will fall into the realm of "forgotten movies" after the 80s generation has passed way. It has not aged well at all, and its storyline is weak.

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People still discuss Plan 9 from Outer Space


Never heard of it.

I don't love her.. She kicked me in the face!!

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That's because you're not very smart.

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Well, you shouldn't be (especially when it involves politics).

Nevertheless, it's a good movie.


Hey there, Johnny Boy, I hope you fry!

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Compared to what? The worst propaganda movie of the fifties? Considering that this movie was made while the US was invading Nicaragua, it is absolutely obscene.

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This movie was filmed in 1912? Wow I know they invaded Grenada in 1983. I can see your heart bleeding right through your shirt. Its a movie get over it.

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I gave it 7/10. I thought that it was pretty good.

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The rating is low because liberals are traditionally Anti-American, and this movie showcases liberal politicians as the traitors they really are.

100% Comic Book Purist, and Bloody Proud of it !

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I am as liberal as they come and think this is an awesome movie.

You can take your opinion and shove them where the sun doesn't shine.

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liberals are traditionally Anti-American


Lol what?

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LOL. What, you didn't find that funny ?

100% Comic Book Purist, and Bloody Proud of it !

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Ermagerd dem SJWs ruin everything!!!!!!1!!1

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This thread is full of craziness. It's the same *beep* with Lone Survivor and American Sniper. As long as America looks like some immortal warrior of righteousness, people will put up with crappy acting and writing. How heroic America is portrayed as no bearing on how much I like or disklike this movie.

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For sure. I think it's a pretty good movie, although when you read posts by people that didn't live through that time, you'd think the movie is awful. They just don't get it, envisioning it as some elitist nonsense. I love people that comment on things they clearly have no idea about.


I drank what?

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The only real complaint I have about the film is how most of the main characters are killed off.

You can play it out two different ways: this rag-tag group of kids bands together and successfully beats back a Soviet invasion until they get backup from the Green Berets (as mentioned in the film), or they get slaughtered after a few successful insurgent attacks.

I had no serious qualms about the scene where Powers Boothe's character and one of the Wolverines are killed on the tanks. You obviously have to remind the audience that there are serious stakes involved. But then everyone starts to die and whatever attachment the audience has developed towards the characters is ruined.

The David versus Goliath story structure is a very common one in fiction, but David has to win. Otherwise, you're just left with an empty feeling at the end. I've read that the director wanted to show the futility of war, but to shoehorn that sentiment into this film was a mistake. The Wolverines didn't need to singlehandedly defeat the Soviets, but they should have survived long enough to see reinforcements come and finish the job.

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This wasn't David vs. Goliath. I saw this movie about '84, after returning from Grenada fighting Cubans and watching soviet advisors leave on a little fishing boat. The movie was powerful to me at the time. I'd also spent time in the middle east where I saw the results of thousands of years of war, and yep, war is futile. This movie was never meant to follow a common story line, plenty of John Wayne movies for that.

It's still relevant today. I spent a few days in Tel Aviv in '83, one of which was their independence day. A terrorist bomb went off in the city and another in Jerusalem. The people were treating it like we would a major fire in the states, with a little concern. I was more than a little freaked out, because I'd never been in a city where this kind of thing went down. I remember thinking to myself that people back home will flip out when they hear about this. Of course they didn't - it's one of those things where you have to be there, and the US was still innocent. Flash forward to 2016? After killing Hussein, Gaddafi, and Bin Laden - people understand my story, because we are there.

It's why people are still talking about Red Dawn.

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I think people under 35 simply can not understand the atmosphere when this movie was released. It was very powerful then. But if you were not alive during that period it's hard to comprehend what it meant.
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