Elisabeth Hasselbeck : Whats So Wrong With Being A Conservative?

Nothing as long as you still believe in the right of the people. The Repbulicans today are NOT Conservative! They are right wing thugs that are as dirty as the Democrats. Anymore being a Congressman/woman or Senator is all about the posh retirement plan, staying in as long as possible, speakers fees, and book deals. These people are getting rich and aren't doing what we tell them to do at all! I'm talking about BOTH parties people! People used to have honor and step down after two terms for new ideas and new people. Now, all the want to do is stay in forever and rack up more money! Then they pat us on the head and try to tell us THEY know better what is good for US! I think they have remembered that the Constitution starts with "We The People!" I'm personally sick of both parties at this point! They are both dirty!


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Everything.

LOL.

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nothing. i don't mind smart conservatives.

but she just believes what mommy and daddy tolded her.

no original thoughts.

"tolded?"

Change that to "told."




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dude you don't understand.

my parents educated me.

her parents "tolded" her.


have you never heard a little kid say, "my mommy tolded me not to do that!"

it was HUMOR.

I am very pinko.

I am for lower taxes for the middle class. higher, higher taxes for companies which in the 1950s paid 23% of their profit in taxes and now 7%. Less taxes on earned interest.

I am for less government spending on a stupid war. And go ahead and cut the dept of education totally. just get rid of it. and take away the NEA 100%, fine by me. but up spending for the working poor. Fight the war on terror by leaving Iraq, focusing on more troops in afghanistan. if we need to nuke iraq later, FINE!

"nothing. i don't mind smart conservatives.
wow, you sound open minded. anyone else agree with me that the Republican and Democratic parties are both equally screwed up?

Haha. Yeah they're both screwed up. Both parties waste so much time fighting each other and criticizing each other to the point where nothing is accomplished. Democrats and Republicans really aren't any different from each other: they both have scandals, lie, care only about their careers, etc.


"Ever has it been that love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation"

Conservatives are generally narrow minded and have no desire to have any kind of open dialogue on an issue.
There is allot wrong with being a conservative. Do you want a world in which you can't read or watch or listen to what you want? Where you are told what to do with your own body?

They would have us back in the dark ages. We would all have to live like Elisabeth does or worse! That is what is wrong with conservatives.

They are generally, homophobes, racists and elitists. They would censor eveything.

You have to be watchful of extremism. Those on the extreme right would make America into a Christian version of Iran while the extreme left would make America into a Neo-Marxist, Politically Correct hell hole.

its just funny how someone who's middle name is 'del padre' is a conservative.

I'm going to play Devil's Advocate, should conservatives be "re-educated?"

I meant that for the person above me but they didn't answer.

How about just educated.

Way to generalize. It's people like you that keep perpetuating lies about conservatives. Are some conservatives like that? Definitely. Should everyone assume that all are like that? Nope. Funny how freedom of speech is fine for you but not okay for conservatives. Way to support the Constitution!

And by the way,

I am conservative.

I don't hate gays (just the ones who think they deserve special treatment just for being gay).

I don't hate non-whites (anything I say defending that point will inevitably be ridiculed so I won't bother).

I don't hate non-Christians.

I hate abortion and support the death penalty. When was the last time a fetus committed a triple homicide?

I don't hate single women who raise kids alone (although in this age of contraceptives, why is it still a problem? Also, wouldn't the father be more to blame for abandoning the kids?)

I am only pro-censorship with regard to things which threaten public safety (a loose definition which needs to be dealt with on a case-by-case basis).

I am pro-wire tapping (not "taping") when the situation warrants it (no pun intended. Again, if the rules are clearly defined, there should be no problem).

I am not pro war. I am pro defending ourselves. Incidentally, all of your liberal idols like Pelosi, Gore, Kerry, Reid, Durbin, and Clinton are all on record for saying the same things Bush has said about Iraq (before the invasion of course; they've since claimed they never supported the actions in Iraq. Gotta love it). I'll try and find the video compilation as it's quite humorous.

Try not to shoot your mouth off when you clearly are operating out of blatant ignorance.

Spoken by a true intellectual. I regret saying anything at all as you've proven to me that you lack any capacity for coherent thought (and no, that's not ad hominem, it's an observation I can back up merely by quoting your own statements).

But for the sake that there may be a part of you that does believe in reason, I'll address your points.

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Hello by me not shooting off my mouth is censorship.

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Speaking out of ignorance is an abuse of freedom of speech. It's akin to screaming "fire!" in a crowded theatre when there is no fire. I'm more than willing to consider someone's opinion provided there is some semblance of intelligence behind it.

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AND BY THE WAY LIFE DOESN'T BEGIN UNTIL YOUR A$$ is paying rent.

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I ass5b4ume you're utilizing hyperbole in an attempt to be sarcastic. If we were to take that statement at face value it would imply that you see nothing wrong with child killers and child rapists (hey, the kids aren't paying rent so they're not people according to you).

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Special Treatment for gays they don't want special treatment JUST EQUAL treatment. They want to fail at marriage just like you!

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I repeat my statement: I have no problem with gays. I should have clarified that I meant equal treatment (I thought that sentiment was implied. Guess not). Just out of curiousity, have you done any research into the topic of gay marriage? As in have you looked at countries where it's allowed and checked the percentage of gay marriages that have lasted longer than a year? You might want to try that. However you say that they want to fail at marriage "just like me." Yes, there is a high divorce rate. But then if you consider that we live in an age where there are no standards (if we're to believe liberal rhetoric), why bother with marriage at all since it's an outdated institution advocated by conservatives?

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Excuse me but the IRAQ was is an unjust war. They were not a threat to us. If you think they were then your stupid just like Elizabeth.

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Again, a statement of this type merely solidifies my point that you lack the capacity for coherent thought. I'll re5b4peat myself since you didn't notice this in my first post: Pelosi et al said the same things Bush said before (and even during the first two years) the invasion in Iraq. All of them said that Iraq was a threat. Al Gore even said in the '92 elections that the GHW Bush administration was deliberately ignoring the ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda. He also said that Bush ignored the fact that Hussein had nuclear weapons and WMDs. Don't believe me? Let Gore tell you himself: http://www.youtube. com/watch?v=9JE48XHK G64&eur l=http%3A %2F%2Fblackinformant %2Ecom%2Fsearch%2FAl_ _SP_TAG__%2520Gore%2F. If you don't want to sit through that whole video (which you probably should watch, but don't take my word for it), here's a shorter one: http://www.youtube. com/watch?v=0h6gehCP vpk&mod e=related &search=. Oh yeah, Bill Clinton launched cruise missiles at them. Remember?

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Now go to church and pray now!

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Ah yes. I forgot that all conservatives are God-crazy drones who don't ever think for themselves. I go to church and pray because I want to. Not to annoy liberals and not to look "reverent." I might remind you that whatever religion you are, presumably you support my fre2000edom to express my religion (you are a liberal after all and that's what liberals constantly preach). Atheism is a religion too if you define religion as a belief system held by an individual. I support you 100% if you're an atheist, but only on the condition that you understand your own perspective (so many atheists I meet merely assault me with emotional tirades instead of logical arguments).

Do me a favor if you reply: address my points logically. If you're unable to do that, there's no possibility of a discussion (it will deteriorate to pointless verbal sparring).

Of course nothing is wrong with being a conservative. American liberals show their complete lack of tolerance of someone with a different point of view on a daily basis. American liberals don't want to allow anyone to think differently from them. They are a sad, little-minded group.

consevatives are the same playboy. Thats why I consider myself an independent. A party that will win very little but retain individuality.

I don't have a signature.

There is nothing wrong with being a conservative unless you are a liberal. Then everything a conservati111cve does is evil and mean spirited. I always look at liberals as they spew hate and and wonder how anyone can believe that Republicans are the evil party. I will never give money to any party even though I am a person of strong conservative values. I believe that Democrat Politicians will do the right thing about 1% of the time. At least with Republicans you have a 50/50 chance of them doing right or trying to until the Deamocrat cloud the issue and start lying about grandmothers starving or poisoning the air.

"Your" a moron, that's why "your" conservative??

Priceless.

There's nothing wrong with being a conservativeif you're into that kind of stuff.

It's quite well known that conservatives are more known for their money, rather then their brains. I mean wasn't it a bunch of conservatives that blocked efforts to place a new global warming bill before for a final senate vote?

Republicans seem to have a mind of their own, and not in a good way, when it comes tot the issues. They see their way or the highway, oppressing voices and beliefs along the way. Conservatives think that everyone should be molded into this little box way of thinking.

Democrats, or liberals, if you must, tend to encourage original thought. They're a breath of fresh air after eight years of republican control.

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NOTHING! That is why there is chocolate and vanilla, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Elisabeth is smart and articulate, it is only the people that don't agree with her that think otherwise.

The only thing I have against some conservatives is that they are in everybody face with there way of doing things. This country is made up of all kinds of people and many different types of faith. That isn't going to change. They bring up this thing about the country being founded on Judeo Christian principles. It's hard to tell if that's true or not but that was then and this is now. The word is full of different people and I do think the conservatives are more guilty than liberals in realizing that.

You guys keep talking about people on the extremes of things. Ones on the far left and far right don't respect anyone else's opinions, especially if they are different from their's. They will go above and beyond the call of duty to censor b68people that they don't agree with and will even go as far as to threaten their life. They are very intolerant people and will rule with an iron fist and bring about a lot of repression if they ever got into power.

Well said dgfan. As an addendum to your point, I also hate it when one of these extremists labels anyone who opposes them as an extremist (projecting to the nth degree). Then the people who never think for themselves get sucked into all the lies and half-truths.

There's nothing wrong with having conservative views, there's something wrong with memorizing conservative views. I just try and treat people the way I would want them to treat me and, apparently, that makes me a liberal.

Conservatives don't want anybody to have any other views. They want us all to be the same and I have a problem with it. Diversity in people will never change so we all need to learn how to live with our different views.

I don't think I could learn to enjoy gay bathroom sex and tax evasion. It just doesn't seem responsible.

Then don't have gay bathroom sex and pay your taxes.

Right. Don't be a Conservative. That's what I said.

Wow, there is a lot of antagonism in politics, isn't there? Ironic, since I thought that unity and respect for people were important values for BOTH sides of the political spectrum. Or is being liberal or conservative more about hating the other sides' differing values than working for a better syste for everyone? If this is true, I think politicsall parties representedis losing its purpose.

correction: I meant system for everyone, not syste. Sorry!

The more extreme a person is the louder, more angry, and more hostile/threatening they will be towards anyone else that they don't think believes exactly what they do.

Good point. But does this mean we are nicest when we are the most mediocre? I'm still trying to figure that out. We need to stand for something, or else we can never really do anything worthwhile in 16d0life. But what to stand for?

There's a big difference between standing for something and believing that those that don't think just like you do are evil and maybe even shouldn't be alive. Most very extreme and radical people think that way.

I'm glad I don't know any extremists in that case. Do you know many personally?

Sooner or later you will come across one. Just make the rounds on IMDb and you will find some. People like that love to be heard so message boards are their bully pulpit.