Star Trek: Voyager : Possible Borg Plot Hole? Please help…

Possible Borg Plot Hole? Please help…

My understanding is the borg discovered humans when Q sent the Enterprise D into the delta quadrant to scare them. They then tracked humanity back to the alpha quadrant (leading to Wolf 359).... but if this is the case, how did 7 of 9's family know of the borg seemingly 10 years earlier? On top of that, it's mentioned in passing many times throughout Voyager that Klingons, Cardassians, Humans, and other species were assimilated off of ships. My question is... how?

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Seven's parents were like UFO hunters. ie crazy ideas that no one took them seriously and they just up and 'disappeared', going into deep space until they found the Borg. They'd gotten hints of the Borg from even earlier interactions with them (like Captain Archer's run in with the Borg in ST-Enterprise.)
I doubt the Borg found any of the Hansens of any interest.

What got the Borg's attention was the Enterprise suddenly able to fly off in excess of Warp 9.9 without the technology to do so. it turned out to be Q, not the humans, so the Borg were less interested after BoBW.

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The El Aurians (Guinan's people) were conquered by the Borg and many of those who escaped eventually came into contact with the Federation. They would have informed the federation and Starfleet of the Borg's existence.

This in turn would have lead to rumours etc.

The Hansons happened to believe that these rumours had some substance to them and petitioned Starfleet to fund their research to investigate the Borg (Starfleet declined since they were just rumours) so the Hansons did it on their own and headed to the Delta quadrant (with a kid... doh!).

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these answers are great... but what about the passive talk about other assimilated humans throughout the series? How were Klingons assimilaed, cardassions, etc etc? Only the federation fought at wolf 359 so Humans, Bolians, Vulcans, etc would be possible... but the non federation species? And people before that battle?

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The Borg were in the Alpha Quadrant before Q sent the Enterprise to the Delta Quadrant. In the last episode of the first season those Romulan and Federation bases that were missing had been assimilated by the Borg. So it's possible that the Borg encountered other Alpha Quadrant species during that time as well.

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Every Trek series since the first has made minor adjustments to the timeline. They did it like a game of Jenga. Carefully so as not to destroy the timeline. Even as an Original Trekkie I always found it acceptable and understood the necessity.

That is until Abrams came along and screwed the pooch... over and over again.



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I Don't know if it was cannon or not, but I remember reading somewhere that Zack Ephrom spent 10 years after the events of first contact trying to convince, everyone he met about the borg. They all laughed it off so he gave up.

I guess the federation decided the borg were wild rumors until Someone met the borg and lived to tell about it. The federation did declare voyager lost after 14 months of radio silence. instead of assuming they were thrown across the galaxy by a powerful being. what would posses them to believe a all powerful cybernetic race were assimilating everyone they meet.

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You mean Zefram Cochrane?

First Contact


I Don't know if it was cannon or not, but I remember reading somewhere that Zack Ephrom spent 10 years after the events of first contact trying to convince, everyone he met about the borg. They all laughed it off so he gave up.

This is where the Enterprise crew (Picard et al) screwed the pooch. They had metal chassis of the Borg Queen after she died, and all the databases of what was known about the Borg as well as ship's logs. They should have uploaded all of this to Zefram Cochrane and left him with the remains of the Borg queen as evidence so they would have a 200 year head start.

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They may have considered that violating the Prime Directive. Archer, ENT, was faced w/ a very similar situation! They were thrown bk in time 165 yrs. T'Pol (of all ppl) suggested warning Earth, in the late 1990', of an attack on Earth almost 165 yrs ahead of time! Archer declined! "No! We'd be contaminating our own history." Despite that there was 7 million casualties.

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I always wonder, where are Odo's species, when the Borg are ravaging?

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My belief is that it began with the "Star Trek : Enterprise" episode "Regeneration". Their desidre to inviestigate thsi species on the in-universe 200th anniversary of the events of that episode led to them tracking the transmission that tave them certain insights that led to their fate.
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