The View : Leaving Politics Out of Award Shows, Jed's opinions

Jed seems to want her cake and the chance to eat it too far too often than is reasonable. However on the topic of Streep's GG award speech last night, Jed took a clear stance by letting everyone know she was not in favor.

Jed cited her opinion that its inappropriate for a celebrity to voice their political beliefs at such venues.

For a celebrated actor of Streep's caliber, although it didn't require a large degree of courage for her to speak her mind, it nonetheless was refreshingly kindhearted and generous of her to do so. Her remarks on diversity aside, the point she made concerning her disgust for Trump's bullishness and disrespect needed to be voiced for the millions of us who don't have such a stage.

Speaking out on how unfit such a person like Trump is for the office of Presidency isn't a Liberal/Conservative/Partisan stanceit's a human dignity/decency stance.

Really? Is it ok for me to go to work and voice my opinions like that, too? Or would I face being fired?

That is an AWARDS show and should not be used to express political opinions.

There are stupid people who are actually influenced by celebrities.

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Is it ok for me to go to work and voice my opinions like that, too? Or would I face being fired?

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Great point, James!

Well, except that she wasn't AT work. She was at an event she volunteered to attend. Second, it's Hollywood and they are notoriously liberal so not the local McDonald's.

Meryl was at an event at which she was being honored, and not just for a single movie but her ENTIRE career. Giving a speech is customary. She spoke. . .beautifully and bravely and with deepest concern about the state of our nation. She honed in on something that should be discussed more - the performance element in politics. Her speech made a huge impact. . .and did you note that she never said his name? Not once. The fact that no one said, "Who?" indicates just how associated Donald Trump is with bullying and misuse of power.

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Really? Is it ok for me to go to work and voice my opinions like that, too? Or would I face being fired?

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Meryl Streep wasn't at work - she was at an Awards Ceremony, where she was being honored for the work which she has done for the past 35+ years. With that honor came a platform for her to speak.

So if you should be honored for 35 years of service in your career, and a platform to speak - say what you wish. Until then, try not to make such inappropriate comparisons - you look like an imbecile.

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16

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Meryl Streep wasn't at work - she was at an Awards Ceremony, where she was being honored for the work which she has done for the past 35+ years. With that honor came a platform for her to speak.

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Uh, that is her job. We have such events, too, where people are recognized for excellence. Should I then be allowed to express my political opinions there? No, and no one else should, either.

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So if you should be honored for 35 years of service in your career, and a platform to speak - say what you wish. Until then, try not to make such inappropriate comparisons - you look like an imbecile.

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I have seen people honored for their life service to a company. I can't remember one using that to denigrate a political opponent. Instead, they invariably took that one opportunity to thank the people who they worked with and the company and maybe their family and friends.

Meryl Streep did what you liberals always do and show your absolute intolerance. Your arrogance is truly remarkable, especially considering you have done nothing but lose support nationally since you were given a chance to show you were actually capable of living up to your words. Instead of showing SOME humility, you double down on your arrogance like total morons.

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Uh, that is her job. We have such events, too, where people are recognized for excellence. Should I then be allowed to express my political opinions there? No, and no one else should, either.

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Her job is being awarded for 35 years of acting in films? That's her JOB?

No, dear fool, that's considered an honor - not a job. Nor are the events at your workplace your 'job' either. I don't think it's in any job description one must be rewarded for 35 years of serviceI doubt it very much.

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I have seen people honored for their life service to a company. I can't remember one using that to denigrate a political opponent. Instead, they invariably took that one opportunity to thank the people who they worked with and the company and maybe their family and friends.

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So what?

It's their moment in the spotlight = they can do whatever they wish and whatever they feel comfortable doing. If they want to thank co-workers, go ahead. If they want to just thank family members - go ahead. If they want to talk about their honeymoon or the birth of their first child - go ahead.

If they want to be like Streep, and talk about how disgusted they feel from what they are observing in today's world (where people of power can humiliate a disabled man), and stand up for the industry which is awarding them that night - bravo to them!

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Meryl Streep did what you liberals always do and show your absolute intolerance.

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I know you mean INTELLIGENCE in the above sentence, not intolerance. Intolerance is what made Trump president today - being intolerant of those who don't look and act like him. He's all yours - not my president.



"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16

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Her job is being awarded for 35 years of acting in films? That's her JOB?

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Yes, acting is her job. Did you think she was being rewarded for her rap music?

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No, dear fool, that's considered an honor - not a job. Nor are the events at your workplace your 'job' either. I don't think it's in any job description one must be rewarded for 35 years of serviceI doubt it very much.

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It's in honor of her job. And people in all kinds of jobs get such lifelong recognition. They don't then stand up there and rip the incoming president apart with a bunch of lies about how he is going to deport ALL non-Americans.

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So what?

It's their moment in the spotlight = they can do whatever they wish and whatever they feel comfortable doing. If they want to thank co-workers, go ahead. If they want to just thank family members - go ahead. If they want to talk about their honeymoon or the birth of their first child - go ahead.

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Sure, they can take the opportunity to be a whiny brat. But I haven't seen any that weren't gracious in the moment. Streep decided to be a typical whiny liberal. See, such recognition is for a specific reason. They didn't recognize her for her contributions to politics.

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If they want to be like Streep, and talk about how disgusted they feel from what they are observing in today's world (where people of power can humiliate a disabled man), and stand up for the industry which is awarding them that night - bravo to them!

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Trump is the president. You lost. And you are losing every day. Obama lost you over 1,000 Dem seats since 2009. With this post, you lost a little more. With Streep's speech, you lost a little more. At some point, liberals will hit such a low point of support, and then what will you do? Who else can you pander to? You've pandered to every one from illegals who commit violent crimes to terrorists who commit even more violent crimes. What else is there? Your ideology became such a JOKE that no one really takes you seriously any more. How do you conflate your ideas of promoting feminism and yet not criticizing sharia law? Liberals would be diametrically opposed to even the moderate Muslims. Instead, you are silent because you want to pander to them. And then you are silent about illegals committing horrifying crimes. People do pay attention to that and realize at some point your entire ideology makes no sense.

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I know you mean INTELLIGENCE in the above sentence, not intolerance. Intolerance is what made Trump president today - being intolerant of those who don't look and act like him. He's all yours - not my president.

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I would rather have Trump and a strong America than Obama and a weak America. Have you noticed the BILLIONS in investment dollars companies now are pouring into America. That's not for Obama. That's for Trump, who wants to make America business friendly. When America is strong, there are jobs and people are able to contribute to America beyond being on welfare and taking food stamps. I am all for welfare and food stamps but not for able bodied people who simply want to sharpen their X-Box skills.
Why would any sane American support illegal immigrants? The answer? No sane American would support it. Liberals support illegal immigrants. You can connect the dots yourself using the transitive properties.

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Really? Is it ok for me to go to work and voice my opinions like that, too? Or would I face being fired?

That is an AWARDS show and should not be used to express political opinions.

There are stupid people who are actually influenced by celebrities.

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Err this was not work. She was not on the clock for a movie being paid to do a role. She was accepting an award. And last I checked, there were no guidelines for what you can and cannot say at an award ceremony. One thing that wouldn't acceptable an award speech is her mocking a handicapped kid.

Ershe was being rewarded for her job as an actor, Kepler.

Uh right! So the same rules don't apply as between when you're on the job and off the job. How many people here have to explain this to you before you get it? Here! Let me give you an analogy to help you understand what we're trying to say. Often, at banquet ceremonies for jobs where people are celebrating promotions, you can find employees of the job drinking alcoholic beverages, kissing their wives, talking about their family lives, and even teasing each other. None of this would be accrptable while on the clock in an office setting. Whu?! Because different rules apply as between job protocol and celebratory occasions of your employment place.

Well said, truetexian.

Film has ALWAYS been very political. Meryl Streep is the rare actor able to fully realize both a woman in Auschwitz and the first female Prime Minister of England. Her moment, her platform. She used to to the most humane effect.

Ron Howard has tweeted this afternoon, calling out Trump for his hypocrisy. His final tweet: Trump was a reality tv star spouting criticisms of a president & reinforcing the Birther Lie. but now celebs should b muzzled?

No American should be censored and the press should not be censored. Because Meryl spoke out, others are finding the courage to do so as well.

Why is Jed and her ilk wanting to limit speech? I don't understand that POV. People win awards and are given time to make a speech and should be able to use their time to express whatever they want. Who is she to determine what that person can and cannot say?

Exactly, Barbas.

Just because Jed doesn't want to hear it doesn't mean Meryl can't say it.

I appreciate that award winners use their speeches to thank agents, directors, actors, etc. Yes, at some point, it gets a little monotonous, but it's their moment.

It was SO refreshing that Meryl chose to discuss something that impacts every American. I'm grateful to her.

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Speaking out on how unfit such a person like Trump is for the office of Presidency isn't a Liberal/Conservative/Partisan stanceit's a human dignity/decency stance.

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Absolutely.

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Why is Jed and her ilk wanting to limit speech? I don't understand that POV. People win awards and are given time to make a speech and should be able to use their time to express whatever they want. Who is she to determine what that person can and cannot say?

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Well remember, members of the right are only for free speech when the free speech that's being expressed is offensive to everyone they are not. Let's just be clear on that. And Jed of course is a closet conservative.

For once it would be nice to watch something without politics being spoken about. Even though I am for Trump, I don't want to think about it 24/7 or have it interfere with every TV show I watch. I find that a turn off no matter who is in office.

Guess I'll have to watch the cooking network more frequently.

It's going to be a fun and interesting 8 years!

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It's going to be a fun and interesting 8 years!

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8 years my ass. I doubt the electoral college and Russia will be allowed to play dirty against majority American votes twice in a row.

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For once it would be nice to watch something without politics being spoken about. Even though I am for Trump, I don't want to think about it 24/7 or have it interfere with every TV show I watch. I find that a turn off no matter who is in office.

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Exactly.

This wasn't some meaningful "truth to power" moment. It was an over-pampered, out of touch play-actor revealing not only how clueless she is when it comes to everyday America, but also how classless she is in attempting to transform an awards ceremony into a political rally for 2016's sore losers.

It shouldn't be asking too much for celebrities to allow those who buy the movie tickets, and who help put designer clothes on the backs of these unappreciative cretins, the chance to enjoy the glitz and suspense of an awards ceremony without being lectured.

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Exactly.

This wasn't some meaningful "truth to power" moment. It was an over-pampered, out of touch play-actor revealing not only how clueless she is when it comes to everyday America, but also how classless she is in attempting to transform an awards ceremony into a political rally for 2016's sore losers.

It shouldn't be asking too much for celebrities to allow those who buy the movie tickets, and who help put designer clothes on the backs of these unappreciative cretins, the chance to enjoy the glitz and suspense of an awards ceremony without being lectured.

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Uhhh "those who buy the movie tickets" aren't all moronic Trump supporters and Republicans, correction! And just because someone buys your movie tickets doesn't mean you don't have the right to your own opinions. If that's the case, then you need to stop being here expressing right-wing beliefs as I'm sure some of your customers in your business are Democratic. You are in an online media setting before a lot of people.

I have supported World Wrestling Entertainment for 2 decades of my life and found out that Vince McMahon and his wife, Linda McMahon, were right-wing. They were even trying to get positions within the Republican Party as a political leaders of it years back. Guess what! You never once saw me boohooing to how dare they have and express their political positions when myself and many other Democrats have put money into their pockets, buying their wrestling pay-per-views and paying tickets to see their live programming. It's just like Whoopi said last week, this is all quintessential Republican boohooing that your party is well known for. Republicans like to sit around and boohoo like there's no tomorrow.

There's an excellent remedy for that. As far as I know most remotes come with a mute, off and buttons to change the channel.

We shouldn't have to mute or change the channel on an awards show to avoid a political speech. It is not the venue. I watch the Golden Globes to see fashion, celebrities and who takes home the globe; not who takes home the presidency.

I felt it was completely disrespectful to the Cecile B. Demille (sp?) award to not only not stay on topic but to invite political beliefs under his umbrella award. When Ms. Streep sheds her affluent lifestyle and lives and listens to Middle America for a time, then perhaps she would have some credibility. I think she believes she actually is some of her characters.

The Golden Globes is hosted by the Hollywood Foreign Press. Trump has trashed the press. I found her speech very appropriate in this setting because she was defending the people who honored her with the award.

Bingo, yobets!

Trump wants to be able to bash and trash with no consequences. Boy, is he about to be in the wrong job.

It's their event and if political speeches are allowed then that's their right. I'm trying to understand why you think you don't have a choice in what you watch. The Golden Globes has a right to have their own agenda and if it doesn't match yours then you're free to not watch.

Yes exactly, which is why I gave up on watching award shows years agoa bunch of overpaid, self congratulatory dimwits who are paid to read other people's words. They actually are legends in their own minds. They think because they can ACT like intelligent characters that they actually ARE intelligent.

I don't want to hear about their politics or their phony a@@ "concerns" for America as they pontificate from their Hollywood mansions while riding limousines and wearing designer gowns.

Yeah it's "their event", they use TV to give themselves awards and accolades. Good for them, talk onto people who actually give a sh#t about your self important opinions and judgements, exactly why I take full advantage of being "free not to watch."

Facts are not liberals strong suit. Rhetoric is. Thomas Sowell

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I don't want to hear about their politics or their phony a@@ "concerns" for America as they pontificate from their Hollywood mansions while riding limousines and wearing designer gowns

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Minus the Hollywood locale, you do realize that describes the lifestyle of the Trump and many other political families? Wealthy people run this country. I'm not sure why it's okay for a reality tv star to become President, tweet whatever the hell he wants, but Meryl Streep crosses a line by giving a speech at an awards show.

Yes I AM aware of Trump's wealth. He's way richer than Meryl Streep. No argument there!! But Meryl Streep was not getting an award for running the country. When Steven Spielberg calls Trump and asks him to star in his next movie, then I'll shut up about celebrities lecturing the rest of us on politics.

Hollywood actors are paid to ACT, not ACT like they know more than Americans who pay their salaries by watching them put on costumes and playact.

I like movies, I just don't like to be lectured by Hollywood leftards. At an award show, and they do love to give themselves awards, they should accept the many accolades which they heap on themselves, give a thank you speech and at least pretend to be humble.

It's no problem for me since I stopped watching award shows years ago. Sometimes I liked watching the winners, but the award shows became one teeth clenching moment after another for me waiting to see WHICH of their "oh so important" political opinions they were going to grace us with.

Can't decide which one is my favorite. When there's a shooting, they scream for tighter gun control and then go home with bodyguards to their gated mansions and high tech security.

When Al Gore makes another global warming film, they lecture America on how we "must save our planet" and then they drive in their stretch limos to their air-conditioned mansions before they jet off to their movie locations.

And after they get finished worshipping the most corrupt candidate to run for President and the skirt chasing adulterer that she is married to, they lecture us on Trump the "meany" and shed phony little tears. Gag me.



They certainly can believe what they want and blather on as much as they want. But an award show is hardly the proper venue. It's about entertainment, not trying to prove that you are relevant or so smart. I don't need a lecture from another spoiled Hollywood actor.

As for Trump, his resume is a tad longer than "reality star." He seems to get that a lot, another attempt at denigrating him. Whatever else he has done, he knows how to win. He took up politics two years ago and beat a career politican like a gong. Anyway, there are NO Constitutional requirements to be a politican to run for President. You only need be thirty five, a natural born citizen and a resident of the USA for the last fourteen years. It's not as though our Founders held politicians in any high esteem.

But if you enjoy being lectured by overpaid actors, that's your business. But they should stick to what they do best, pretending to be other people.

Facts are not liberals strong suit. Rhetoric is. Thomas Sowell

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We shouldn't have to mute or change the channel on an awards show to avoid a political speech. It is not the venue. I watch the Golden Globes to see fashion, celebrities and who takes home the globe; not who takes home the presidency.

I felt it was completely disrespectful to the Cecile B. Demille (sp?) award to not only not stay on topic but to invite political beliefs under his umbrella award. When Ms. Streep sheds her affluent lifestyle and lives and listens to Middle America for a time, then perhaps she would have some credibility. I think she believes she actually is some of her characters.

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Here's what irks the hell out of me about Republicans. Whenever black people are trashed on our race and put down with slurs by somebody no matter what the platform and where it's done, the only thing I ever here out of the right about it is:

"FREE SPEECH"
"FREE SPEECH"
"FREE SPEECH"

"STOP BEING POLITICALLY CORRECT"
"STOP BEING POLITICALLY CORRECT"
"STOP BEING POLITICALLY CORRECT"

"WE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY WHAT WE WANT WHEN WE WANT!!!"
"WE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY WHAT WE WANT WHEN WE WANT!!!"
"WE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY WHAT WE WANT WHEN WE WANT!!!"

Now here you have a person saying something the right doesn't like to hear that condemns the mocking of a handicapped person and what do we get:

"YOU CAN'T SAY THAT!"
"YOU CAN'T SAY THAT!"
"YOU CAN'T SAY THAT!"

"NOT THE APPROPRIATE FORM TO SAY THAT, HOW DARE YOU!"
"NOT THE APPROPRIATE FORM TO SAY THAT, HOW DARE YOU!"
"NOT THE APPROPRIATE FORM TO SAY THAT, HOW DARE YOU!"

"YOU DON'T JUST GET TO SAY ANYTHING YOU WANT. IT'S DISRESPECTFUL!"
"YOU DON'T JUST GET TO SAY ANYTHING YOU WANT. IT'S DISRESPECTFUL!""YOU DON'T JUST GET TO SAY ANYTHING YOU WANT. IT'S DISRESPECTFUL!"

^uhhh, what? Grace and class would probably trump (pardon the pun) political here. She was awarded this honor for her work in the industry, not for being a political watchdog. She can say anything she wants, no one is taking away her free speech. She might have wanted to show a little appreciation for being recognized in her field which is acting in case anyone has forgotten.

I think you are the first person to Call me a Republican. I have to say it felt good. Thanks.

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Here's what irks the hell out of me about Republicans. Whenever black people are trashed on our race and put down with slurs by somebody no matter what the platform and where it's done, the only thing I ever here out of the right about it is

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Perhaps you should remove that chip off your shoulder, and you won't be so angry and bitter. Not to mention you may see more clearly that it's not Republicans as a collective group who trash your race. "Race trashing" is not a Republican vs. Democrat thing. You are delusional and brainwashed to even think that. If anything, that is what Democrats want you to believe - if you are going to single out a political party.

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It wasn't a political speech




"When they go low
We go high"

Today, Trump thinks Meryl Streep is "overrated," yet in 2015, he said this:

"Meryl Streep is excellent; shes a fine person, too."

You can be excellent and a fine person, and still be overrated. hester in her vacuum again.

It really wasn't a "political" speech. Her references merely stressed that the very strengths of our nation have come from our diversity and our empathy.
As eloquent as her speech was, Viola Davis in her backstage comments to the press spoke directly to the heart of what all of us should ask ourselves:

What does our endorsement of someone like Trump say about us?

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What does our endorsement of someone like Trump say about us?

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More than anything, it says Hillary Clinton blows chunks.

So are you saying that if not for Hillary you wouldn't have voted for Trump?

"our endorsement of Trump"????

What it says about me is that I am sick to death of Washington and its ruling political class.


What does the left's endorsement of Mrs. Bill Clinton say about THEM? That they don't mind having a president who has made millions selling influence to nations who like to push gays off of roofs and stone women caught in adultery?

Miss Davis needs to save trying to "sound profound" for her TV show when she has the use of talented professional writers and stop trying to sound so deep on her own.


If I hear one more pretentious, know-it-all Hollywood celebrity wax "deep" as if they know so much more than the rest of us, wellI may cry




Facts are not liberals strong suit. Rhetoric is. Thomas Sowell

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What it says about me is that I am sick to death of Washington and its ruling political class.

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And what they don't get is that it was Washington political class that mocked Trump and I have to believe that time Obama did it was a turning point in a lot of ways for Trump.

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What does the left's endorsement of Mrs. Bill Clinton say about THEM? That they don't mind having a president who has made millions selling influence to nations who like to push gays off of roofs and stone women caught in adultery?

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It says they are total hypocrites. It says they don't possess integrity or the conviction of their beliefs. It says they will do or say anything to attain power. When is the last time you heard liberals condemn Muslims for stoning women to death? Imagine if Christians practiced that.

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Miss Davis needs to save trying to "sound profound" for her TV show when she has the use of talented professional writers and stop trying to sound so deep on her own.

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Yeah, can't they just be gracious and stop acting like they are somehow great historical figures who need to look and sound profound whenever the cameras are rolling?

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If I hear one more pretentious, know-it-all Hollywood celebrity wax "deep" as if they know so much more than the rest of us, wellI may cry

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It is so sad to watch these people hold a mutual admiration party and act like they are the true voice of the people.
My favorite moment was the looks given by Vince Vaughn and Mel Gibson during the Meryl Streep speech. It was priceless.

And I am still waiting for the proof Donald Trump intends to deport all foreigners. Where is that?

What the heck was Mel Gibson doing there? I guess Hollywood likes him again. LOL For a while they hated him and were "aghast", so "sincerely" upset at his anti-Semitic remarks, unlike Pres. Obama's outright anti-Semtism and giving Netanyahu the proverbial finger for eight years!

I just listened to Mark Levin's (very funny) take on Meryl Streep's little speech on you tube. Pvd thinks that I AM mean. Mark Levin opened with, "Honest to G-D, go to he&&!"

He is at his funniest when he is angry, like when he is ranting about Hollywood.

Facts are not liberals strong suit. Rhetoric is. Thomas Sowell

Exactly. It makes me sick that people are actually BOTHERED by human decency Its annoying to some people. Wtf. Grow a damn conscience and empathy. Trump does not give a rats ass about anyone but himself. I dont know WHAT people dont get about that. God forbid we stand up for what is RIGHT. What some people like about Trump i will never understand. But it makes you see who those people are.

You hit the nail on the head, ghettogirl. People that attack Meryl for human decency but defend "grab 'em by the kitties"? Skewed values, to say the least.

ghettosgirl: You do understand that you are watching and listening to actors who can summon any emotion at any given time so it's not surprising that you see empathy. DT is not an actor so I believe we see the real person, lots of warts and all. For MS to summon tears for her soapbox probably wasn't a real stretch and might not have been actual tears. And, btw, you don't "see" me because I like Trump. You see the demon the media has told you I am. You can't know the causes I work for, where I spend my money or actually how much money I have to spend. You can't know most of my concerns or why I would choose DT over HC. "Human decency" is part of my make up and does not annoy me. I am offended that you believe I have no empathy and that you believe DT only cares about himself. How do you believe such a skewed picture of us without lacking empathy yourself. And, what court told you what is "RIGHT". Try making less judgements and listen with your ears and heart open. You may find a different and less hateful story.

The problem with liberal Hollywood is selective outrage,. She celebrated and defended a liberal rapist.

Why doesn't drugging and raping a 13 year old girl break her heart?

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The problem with liberal Hollywood is selective outrage,. She celebrated and defended a liberal rapist.

Why doesn't drugging and raping a 13 year old girl break her heart?

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If that's really a problem, why do you support Trump? His BFF is Jeffrey Epstein, accused child rapist, and Trump himself has been accused of raping a 13 year old at Epstein's apartment. I'm not sure why you don't call Trump out on this one.

http://heavy.com/news/2016/11/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit-sue-rape-13-year-old-girl-jeffrey-epstein-jane-doe-katie-johnson-press-conference-lisa-bloom/

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16

Trump's minions are DESPERATE if they're trying to tie Meryl Streep to Roman Polanski.

Exactly WHAT did Meryl Streep SAY in defense of Polanski? Link, please.

Years ago, we discussed Polanski on this board. I believe Polanski should have been jailed for the rape. I pointed out the the role the judge played in Polanski's failure to return to America and Storm jumped all over me, saying I was excusing a rapist. Wrongo, Stormo. Here's the same pathetic argument in another guise.

In 2013, Polanski's victim published her account of the rape and surrounding legal drama. Those attacking Meryl Streep should read it. There's NO mention of her or scores of other actresses and actors. Trying to put all of Hollywood on trial because an erudite woman (who doesn't live in California) condemned the mocking of a disabled reporter is reprehensible and, on some level, even Trump's goose-stepping followers know it. Only the bravest of them will ever be able to admit that they made a horrible mistake. Ten years from now, the lion's share of them won't admit to their children and grandchildren that they supported him.

Meryl Streep has conducted herself throughout her career with courtesy and civility. The same cannot be said of Trump.