Tomorrow Never Dies : God, what a drop in quality from Goldeneye!

Yeah, budget-wise it's a step up, but Cubby's gone and the kids are running the show now, and you can literally see the transition about half an hour in. It suddenly turns into a joke fest with terrible action scenes, terrible Bond Girls, the most generic mid-90s techno score.

And the fights! My god, the fights! GE had possibly the best fight in the series between Bond and Trevelyan on the satellite dish, and in this one Vic "Bland is just fine with me, kiddo!" Armstrong turns Bond into the biggest pansy. He literally has one move: grab the guy by the lapels and punch himwhich of course leads to him repeatedly getting his ass kicked.

"Consider him slimed."

Ugh, so frustrating this movie! Still better than Skyfall though.

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Actually the kids were running the show at GoldenEye already, Cubby was too ill. GoldenEye had better script and better fights because the script was made for Dalton, Tomorrow never dies is made for Brosnan.



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GoldenEye was the last 'classic' Bond movie I agree that it was probably written for Dalton in mind but Pierce is no slouch either. This flick suffers from its villain, Carver has gotta be the lamest ever..a guy who sells newspapers.:-|

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He was still around and somewhat involved though. (Cubby always championed Dalton and his "darker" take on the role, whereas Michael Wilson is on record as saying the light-hearted Moore films are his favorite.)

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Agreed

I would agree that goldeneye was way better.

Dude Bind and Wei Lin jumped through a separate pane of glass with a metal divider between the two panes and the twi of them were HANDCUFFED together. It's like the production crew didn't care.

The metal divider between windows is not that strong. Had they broke the frame around the windows, that would be a different story. But without the glass in place, that center frame becomes weaker. Same principle as the dividers between glass on a hockey rink.


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All the Daniel Craig bond movies are not like bond movies even worse than the movie you're stating. What a terrible movie that skyfall is.

Agreed. And yes, skyfall is juuust awful.

Terrible bond girls? Michelle Yeoh is one of the best bond girls. The girl in Goldeneye failed to create complex codes to stop the satellite.

The reason of the drop in quality was because there was huge pressure to recreate GoldenEye's success in its follow up film. The whole film was compromised from the beginning. They wanted the films release to coincide with MGM's public stock offering.

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She's a butterface who kicks a couple of guys in one scene then does nothing else of value for the rest of the movie.

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Nothing of value?

- Helps Bond on the bike (barrels, gives him another pair of eyes, etc.)
- Provides Bond with intelligence on General Chang
- Organises travel on the back of another boat.
- Provides equipment for their assault.
- Aids Bond on the stealth boat (gives him the detonators, minimising the offences, slows the stealth boat to make it an easy target for the navy, etc.)

I'd say she's one of the more helpful Bond girls Much more useful than Honey Ryder, Mary Goodnight, Aki and Domino)

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