Buffy the Vampire Slayer : What is wrong with the Supernatural fans?

What is wrong with the Supernatural fans?

I made a thread asking which show they liked better, Buffy or Supernatural and it got flagged and taken down. I post the same one on here and people just told me their opinions like normal people. Here what I posted.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118276/board/thread/264435379

Same one on both, words and everything.

Then I saw one fan asking if the Supernatural should come to an end and everyone got on their case and those same people were saying Buffy should had ended at 3. I asked why is it ok for you guys to say when a show should end but people can't say it about Supernatural


by albertcoleman-80708 » 6 days ago (Thu Dec 22 2016 17:40:22)
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It's definitely time for threads like this to end.


I just saw this.

by thesnowleopard » 20 hours ago (Wed Dec 21 2016 21:32:37) Flag ▼ | Reply |
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Buffy should have ended after season three.

The Historical Meow http://thesnowleopard.net


Why it's ok for you to say when a show should end but everyone else a troll?





and I get this.


I can say, with my friends, in my house, "hey, I think The Walking Dead/The Vampire Diaries/Supernatural/Game of Thrones has gone pretty long, and I kind of wish it ended" and it's ok. But if I go to the FAN BOARD of any of those series and say the same? I'm being a troll. Because the INTENT is to make the FANS angry, not to have a real argument about writing quality.


So it's ok to say it to fans in real life just not on a fan board. That doesn't make any sense. It comes off to me like it's ok for us to put down other shows but no one better not say anything about Supernatural.

Then there this creep that keeps replying to me even after I put them on ignore. I don't know what there saying but they keep following me where ever, I go even on here like a stalker.

I dealt some bad fanbases but this seems to be the worst.

Anybody else had this problem?

Edit By the way SkeksisGirl is the stalker. I don't know what it's saying just flag and report don't talk to it. Whatever it's saying is a lie. You can go through my posts to confirm this.

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By the way SkeksisGirl is the stalker. I don't know what it's saying just flag and report don't talk to it. Whatever it's saying is a lie. You can go through my posts to confirm this.

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Not a stalker, and your posts are pretty insulting towards the show.


If that's the case why are you following them around? There on a different board and here you are. That seems like stalking to me.

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No, you want to know what stalking is? Stalking is when they follow you physically and talk about how they know your mother is at your house when they text you the night your mother shows up to visit, know what food you eat, where you shop, where you live. That is stalking.

Looking at the post history of a two day old account of someone who just wants to start a fight between two fandoms on a public message board is not stalking.

Learn the difference. For the record, the first paragraph has happened to me, and it's scary as all hell.

So please don't claim I am stalking him when I am not. This idiocy about "oh, they are on another board I'm on, they're stalking me." is BS.

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Sorry that happen to you. I've been in a situation that was like that before.

I saw some guy standing outside by house and he was standing there just looking at my house for an hour, then walked away. A week he later did the same thing. He came back two days after that and I called the cops but he walked off before they got there. I haven't seen him since but freaked me out.

Anytime I hear someone talking about stalking I take it seriously no matter who it is.

That being said if this a guy a trouble maker why keep following him around? He's not even on the same board anymore just ignore him.

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Most the time when people are saying they are being stalked on the IMDB, they are using it in the wrong context. I had one guy dox me because he didn't like my opinion of Batman V Superman while I was getting legitimately stalked.

Also, no. The OP is still on the SPN board arguing with several people, then putting us on ignore when we call him out on his BS.

I'm here because I am a fan of both shows, I have the scripts to the entire series of Buffy, some scripts for Angel and some for SPN. I've met several actors from SPN, Buffy, Angel, Firefly, Dollhouse, and Cabin in the Woods. I named two of my cats after Dollhouse characters and my 14 year old Cockatiel is named Spike.

The last thing we need is this jerk trying to start crap between the two fandoms.

And yes, while I am not a fan of Buffy the character, I still like the show and pretty much everything else Joss has done since. Hell, I see James Marsters about every other year since 2004. He's awesome.

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Also, no. The OP is still on the SPN board arguing with several people, then putting us on ignore when we call him out on his BS.


If he has you on ignore then there really no point in talking to him anymore. He's just going to do what he wants and not care what you're saying and if you keep following him people will start thinking you're the trouble maker not him. So just ignore him and he'll get bored when there's no one left talk to, then disappear forever.


my 14 year old Cockatiel is named Spike.


That's so cute. I'm going to get try and get two cats next year and name them Spike and Angel. 😃


Hell, I see James Marsters about every other year since 2004. He's awesome.


I heard nothing but good things about him and Spike my favorite character on the show. So cool you got to meet him.

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Spike used to have a white faced mate named Angel. She kept plucking him. My cats are named Topher and Echo.

As for the OP. He's spreading lies about me and my friends. I'd rather set the record straight instead of him instigating a war between fandoms on IMDB.

I think he's a sock.

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Spike used to have a white faced mate named Angel.


That's so cute. 😍

I can't wait to get my cats next year. I have a dog named Joyce. Hope they all get along.

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Hopefully they will. My mom's dogs bark at Echo all the time, but they aren't sure what to do about Topher who will come in and eat their food.

"Silflay hraka, u embleer rah!"

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In addition to the above I would like you to look at what the OP is saying about me:


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by albertcoleman-80708 » 1 hour ago (Sat Dec 24 2016 22:38:13)
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By the way SkeksisGirl is the stalker. I don't know what it's saying just flag and report don't talk to it. Whatever it's saying is a lie. You can go through my posts to confirm this.


How can he claim I am lying after he ignored me from my first reply to him on the other board. Also, calling me an it is dehumanizing. Which shows that he just wants to turn people against me. Here is what happened:

Someone, Max, made a SPN need to end post, 3 days after one guy who was extremely insulting and rude finally left. One of the long time posters on SPN called him out on it. Albert popped into the thread and this was his first post on that thread:

Re: Is it time for Supernatural to finally end?

by albertcoleman-80708 » 2 days ago (Thu Dec 22 2016 17:40:22)
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It's definitely time for threads like this to end.


I just saw this.

by thesnowleopard » 20 hours ago (Wed Dec 21 2016 21:32:37) Flag ▼ | Reply |
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Buffy should have ended after season three.

The Historical Meow http://thesnowleopard.net


Why it's ok for you to say when a show should end but everyone else a troll?


His whole reason for posting was to attack Snowleopard for something she said about a show off air 13 years. So, another poster who has been attacking a lot of people for still liking SPN decided to attack Snowleopard more. To which Albert, who has just made the account that day said he was going to put people who he felt were hypocritical, without really seeing his own BS on ignore.

So I stepped in and said this:

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by SkeksisGirl » 2 days ago (Thu Dec 22 2016 17:56:52)
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Oh gee. We call assbutts out on being assbutts... how evil of us.

As for your question about Buffy... SPN over Buffy, because Buffy was a self absorbed abusive bitch. I watched the show for almost everyone aside from Buffy.

And actually there were times that the writing for Buffy was pretty damn bad. Especially in season six, Riley-Stu comes to mind when he showed up with his perfect wife.

But, you won't care, because you're already talking with other trolls.



And yes, Albert is being an assbutt. He is going on an SPN board to scream how much better Buffy is than SPN. If someone came on here and made a thread about how much better SPN is than Buffy, you guys would react the same as we did.

He's looking for confirmed bias, and when he doesn't get his way and gets called out on his behavior, he attacks and ignores.

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That seems like a lot of drama lol. I would just put him on ignore but that's just me. I get wanting to call someone out but after a while it gets tiresome. He'll get bored and go on to the next board, eventually.

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Albert is actually mild. Should see what's left of the last guy who wanted SPN to end. He was getting into real hate speech and lewb BS. ::Rolls eyes.::

You follow James on Facebook? Been watching his Vidiots channel?

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You follow James on Facebook? Been watching his Vidiots channel?


No. I've been meaning to get on that. What's on his Vidiots channel?

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Mainly him and Mark being goofballs it seems. But next time I see him, I'm so bugging him about his Playstation VR.

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I'm so bugging him about his Playstation VR.


My friend showed me that on his phone the other day. Pretty funny.

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You see him on Torchwood? He's VERY proud that his character pissed people off on that show.

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Yes I have. Love that episode. Too bad they didn't use him for the whole series lol.

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Yeah, he would have been a nice addition to the show.

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He could have been torchwood, Spike. A character that starts out a bad guy but slowly turns good. And falls in love with Jack, of course, lol.

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I just wanted Spike to show up on Firefly.

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Now that would a pretty cool crossover lol.

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Rumor has it, that if the show went on long enough, Spike would be at a bar, bitching about how nothing changes.

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That would have been so cool.😍

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Firefly having more than one season would have been cool.

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Because watching something that bad gives you brain damage lol. All kidding aside I liked supernatural better at first but the seasons got really bad after a while so I quit watching. I just got done with Buffy for the first time and loved it. You're better off staying away from the fans of supernatural. Most of them seem insecure and hate people questioning the show.

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Actually, the SPN fans are sick and tired of people making "This show should end because I no longer like it" threads, like the kind he is talking about.

He's also calling people hypocritical for stating opinions like Buffy should have ended after season 3, 13 years after the show was over and done with.

There is a major difference between wanting a show that was still ongoing to end because you no longer enjoy it, and looking back at a show that has been off air for years and feeling that x season was its peek.

For the record, I can see why someone would feel that season 3 should have been the end point, and I was watching Buffy during the original run. After Joss left the show to Marti Noxin, it got pretty bad. And it was widely discussed on the old alt.tv.Buffy boards back in the day.

Hell, a lot of the same debates between fans during Buffy's hey day are there for SPN (Buffy/Angel vs Buffy/Spike for BTVS and Wincest vs Destiel for SPN in example. And there were people who felt that Buffy should have ended with season 5 before the network switch. So, it's actually a lot of the same.

As for us questioning the show, you must not see the official episode threads and the debates that have gone on where a lot of the people on the board actually do question the show.

But that is not what the OP is doing. What the OP is doing is trying to stir crap up be pitting Buffy vs Supernatural. And a lot of old Buffy fans are fans of SPN. Hell, Amy Acker, Amber Benson, Charisma Carpenter, and James Marsters have guest starred on SPN. Not to mention Mark Sheppard who worked on Firefly and Dollhouse is a regular along with Tahmoh Penikett from Dollhouse was a reoccurring character.

Also, Christian Kane is friends with Jensen Ackles.

So, there is a lot of crossover actor wise between SPN and Buffy, and the need to go "this show is better" is just BS.

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Going to a shows page and putting down the show is in poor taste and should expect backlash. In fact that's what most people who do such things want, so they can say "oooh fanboys........". I've seen it enough here, where people come on and say "Charmed was better than Buffy" or similar comments, and of course get the same reaction. It's kind of silly to me to complain about a show, saying it should end or when it should have, but it's worse to do it on that shows page than it is to do it on a different shows page. I mean it's worse to say "Buffy sucks" on the Buffy page, than it is to say it on the supernatural page and vice versa.

I'm not a fan of Supernatural, but the whole "This show should end" is stupid. Don't like it, don't watch it. Rather than wanting it to end so that others who do actually enjoy it, can't. It's like saying "I don't like carrots, so the grocery stores need to stop selling them".


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Exactly, now while I now prefer SPN over Buffy, which I said why in the other thread this Troll made, it doesn't mean I was claiming Buffy should have ended while the show was still ongoing. Also, SPN started two years after Buffy ended. There was never a need for the shows to compete, and hell. We got SPN on the WB BECAUSE Buffy and Angel did so well.

The OP specifically tried to start crap between two fandoms on Christmas and is acting like a victim because the SPN fandom called him out on his BS. And yes, we came here, but guess what, some of us are also fans of Buffy. So we have just as much right to be here as this troll.

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Going to a shows page and putting down the show is in poor taste and should expect backlash.


Agreed but there nothing wrong with discussing when a show should end. Many shows become jokes because the networks keep them going only for the money and don't care about how bad the quality is.


Rather than wanting it to end so that others who do actually enjoy it, can't.


I get that but I don't get why it can't be discussed? If you disagree fine but people want to shut down the conversation before even starts.

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People can bitch about what they want to bitch about when they want to bitch about it. Watching a show go on past its prime is painful for some people to watch and hear about they can be upset about declines in quality if they want to be. Sometimes you want a show to end on a high note when everything is good and in order if the show is still so wildly popular that it can stay on the air anyway then why should it matter if others are disagreeing with you? Do you not still get to watch your show? Whats the difference whether you are looking back at a show after it has finished airing and saying it should have ended or discussing it as it airs? Either way everyone could agree that Buffy for example should have absolutely ended after season 6. The people who were complaining about it while it was airing are not more or less because some time has passed.

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The fact that this guy is trying to start a war is the problem.

He's "upset" because someone said she felt that Buffy should have ended in season 3, 13 years after the show was over. Snowleopard, and a lot of us, are getting tired of the "SPN needs to end" threads popping up EVERY THREE DAYS. ESPECIALLY when people say that "The show needs to end because I no longer like it, but I still watch it". And get bitchy because the rest of the board tells them "Don't like it, don't watch it anymore". They want a show to stop production, which ends a crap ton of jobs for people who make a CRAP ton less than the actors.

I don't like I show, I stop watching it. Simple as that. I don't try and make about a hundred people lose their jobs because I no longer enjoy something. That's where we are coming from.

Also, the OP is whining because people on the SPN board didn't take kindly to him trying to go "Buffy is better because" and then came here to bitch that his thread got deleted.

That's the issue, and the OP is just trying to start crap because of it.

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See thats the thing you don't seem to understand talking about what you would like for a show doesn't mean you have power over it. Someone expressing dislike over a show being crappy doesn't mean they get what they want and that the viewership disappears. I know this because there are tons of show I hate that are still on the air obviously wanting a show to end doesn't mean you are taking a job away from somebody. I never understood the mentality of that don't like don't watch garbage. People express disappointment for declines in the quality of a show because they did like it and part of them still cares enough that they want to see their show treated with respect and not pimped out like an aging diseased riddled prostitute. I don't care about Supernatural at all but there is nothing sad about a show hypothetically ending after a successful 10 year run.

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When you have people posting thread after thread after thread about it, then attacking the fans, yeah, it's a problem.

As for, there is nothing sad about a show ending after whenever: I remember how people reacted when the news about Angel getting cancelled dropped. I remember seeing a truck with a billboard saying they'd follow Angel to another channel driving around town.

So, please, don't call "Don't like, don't watch" garbage. It's right. And a lot of us in the SPN board DO express disappointment to what we see as a decline in quality over the show.

But when you have this: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0460681/board/nest/264423403

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0460681/board/nest/263225956

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0460681/board/nest/263799965

EVERY THREE DAYS... it's annoying.

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You know if you don't like a show you don't have to watch it and if you don't like the board associated with the show you like you don't have to be on it either. How about trying to be a little bit tolerant and put some effort into buffing up your ignore list rather than following people back to other boards and bringing your fandom drama baggage with you?

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Um, the one that started with the drama importing is Albert. The OP of this thread. He started it, and I am defending myself since he is libeling me and is having his troll threads go after me also.

If you notice, a lot of people on here that agrees with him are either REALLY new, or completely ignore the fact that I am a Buffy fan.

So, either read the ENTIRE thread... and stop playing into Albert's fun.

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That doesn't mean you have to be here when the majority of your conversations are related to SPN and not Buffy you are pretty much doing the same thing as he is. Why not fight your battles on your own board where all of this started? Most people would agree the Op was in the wrong but you are making yourself look bad by stalking him over here and vehemently insisting that people who don't have the same opinions as you shouldn't be allowed to express them at all.

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That doesn't mean you have to be here when the majority of your conversations are related to SPN


Actually, until The_Stranggler and albert's other socks came on here, I WAS talking about Buffy with Happyspike300. But again, you and others want to ignore facts.


and not Buffy you are pretty much doing the same thing as he is. Why not fight your battles on your own board where all of this started?


Because unlike Albert, I'm not going to run to the SPN board and whine about how the mean little Buffy board is not liking me. Also, I am a Buffy fan. Like I said above, I own every season on DVD of Buffy and Angel, I have all the screenplays for BTVS, plus I've met SEVERAL of the actors for Buffy and Angel AND Joss Whedon.


Most people would agree the Op was in the wrong but you are making yourself look bad by stalking him over here and vehemently insisting that people who don't have the same opinions as you shouldn't be allowed to express them at all.


Again, it has nothing to do about their opinions, and everything to do with him trying to start a fan war and them trolling the SPN board and making the SAME damn thread every few days.

Just like you'd be annoyed if someone made a "Spike is evil and needs to DIE" thread every few days on here.

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Just like you'd be annoyed if someone made a "Spike is evil and needs to DIE" thread every few days on here


Umm people do that and they have a point he is for quite some time unapologetically evil and an attempted rapist in my opinion Buffy gave him too many opportunities against her better judgement in season 7. Just because I love Spike aside from his flaws doesn't mean people don't get to have a dialogue about him in a negative way.


Because unlike Albert, I'm not going to run to the SPN board and whine about how the mean little Buffy board is not liking me.


You act like that would bother anybody here when it wouldn't just like it shouldn't bother you that the op did it. I mean why do you care what the OP is saying on other boards? He didn't even name names to begin with until your revealed yourself. You do realize almost nobody has said anything to the op because he isn't replying back and forth like you are right? Who would just talk to dead air?

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Umm people do that and they have a point he is for quite some time apologetically evil and an attempted rapist in my opinion Buffy gave him too many opportunities against her better judgement in season 7. Just because I love Spike aside from his flaws doesn't mean people don't get to have a dialogue about him in a negative way.


But is it the SAME thread multiple times in a few days spawning? I know that I am sick and tired of dead horse debates on the SPN board and I was very much over the Angel vs Spike debate back on Alt.TV.Buffy back when the show was airing.

There's a difference between having a dialogue about the character, cause I could discuss Spike with you for weeks, and then making a thread, never giving GOOD reasons (unlike your reasons for not liking Spike which are legit), and then either never coming back, or going very insulting with their replies.


You act like that would bother anybody here when it wouldn't just like it shouldn't bother you that the op did it. I mean why do you care what the OP is saying on other boards? He didn't even name names to begin with until your revealed yourself. You do realize almost nobody has said anything to the op because he isn't replying back and forth like you are right? Who would just talk to dead air?


The OP is libeling me and others, I don't like people slandering and libeling me and my friends. I've had people try and do it before, along with Doxing me because of idiotic crap. The OP wants a fight, and I will defend myself from the lies. If anything, you're feeding into him more than I am.

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Oh, so because something doesn't annoy you, it means it doesn't annoy anyone?

Fair, you dislike Spike enough not to care if there are threads about killing him every two or three days. Let's then try a different one. What if someone came with a Joss Whedon promotes rape thread every two days on the clock? Not talking about Buffy, but about how Joss Whedon is an evil anti-feminist, facts be damned.

EVERY three days. And the OP of each thread swore that no, there hasn't been any discussion on the subject on the board EVER. And when people pointed out that no, it HAS been discussed, that OP went to whine to the, say, Avengers board, about how horrible Buffy fans are.

I am pretty sure someone here would want to set the record straight.


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I don't think the Avengers board would be very welcoming of a "Joss promotes Rape" person... being that Joss Wrote and Directed the only two Avengers movies out at the moment.

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You haven;t seen the avenger's fandom on tumblr... MAN, they're vicious against Joss..

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Lemme guess... the scene with Natasha and Bruce in Avengers 2?

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YOu DO realize that you are berating the person who is TELLING people that if they don't like the show in question (SPN) they don't have to watch it? And that the ones who BROUGHT the drama here are the people you're defending?

Because SG is a BIG Buffy fan,. She has had great conversations about Buffy here and in other places. But the people who are whinning about SPN fans here are people who have only shown to say... that fans are evil. THAT's it. No comments on either shows, except "I want SPN to end right now and all fans are idiotS", nothing that actually shows they're fans of either.

So why are you berating SG instead of the other two?

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Wait, are you TRYING to start a war between Buffy and SPN fans? Because man, you are being pretty obvious.

It's funny how you took out ALL the arguments I made before about how it's different to talk about a theoretical series end after said ending, and then how it's different with FRIENDS that you know and thus, can gauge reactions better, as opposed to fans, in a fanboard.

Expecially funny that you say we can't "put down" SPN when SPN is in the LIST of shows I say it's ok to say "I wish it ended" if you're among friends. (OR in the board where every detail of the writing is nitpicked to hell and back)

And of course, you dehumanize and insult SkeksisGirl BECAUSE she is fed up with crap like this and called you out on it. Of course you libel her (following people on one board is NOT stalking), and de-gender her in an attempt to make yourself better.

Also, PRETTY funny that you come to the fandom that is still having arguments about what constitutes consent when talking about "bad" fanbases.

(Disclaimer: I love Buffy. Was president of the local fanclub for three years in a row. Still think the arguments about seasons 6 and 7 got way out of hand)

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I don't know if this is a troll post, but I gotta say SN boards are tough. I haven't been there in quite awhile but I was called a troll just because I criticised the brothers, God forbid. I loved the show, but when you can't make a legitimate criticism without getting ambushed, there is something wrong. It was the same here years back, Spike fans ruled the boards and I was getting into too many arguments for preferring Buffy with Angel
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