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It is understandable, "Valley of the Dolls" is on Encore right now.
You can't help but feel bad when you see Sharon on the screen.
It is still one of the most horrific murders that I can think of.
You can't help but feel bad when you see Sharon on the screen.
It is still one of the most horrific murders that I can think of.
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I didn't get to do my usual ritual of watching some of her movies like I do also on her birthday. but when I woke up that am and saw VOTD on, it was perfect..
hopefully i can cherish her memory this weekend and watch some of her movies.
hopefully i can cherish her memory this weekend and watch some of her movies.
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I feel it tooand I'm nowhere near CA! I just always think of them around this time of year, Sharon especiallyso close to having her baby. She was THE most beautiful woman I've ever seen, no one since has come close to her, in b68my eyes. She is forever remembered and hopefully will never be forgotten. I was lucky enough to visit her grave last year, and it's really stayed with me
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I'm glad we were all thinking about Sharon (Encore channel too!). The memory of that beautiful creature takes some of the sting away at not having her here anymore.
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I think of all of them in the evening of Aug. 8th. They were having such a normal nightgoing out to dinner, then relaxing at home and then.it's too awful to think about. God bless them and their loved ones.
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I always remember this. I, too, wish it could've been different. Of course I feel sorry for all the victims, but for some reason or another, I feel for ST. That little boy would now be 41 years old. He suffocated inside her. And that just angers me so much because it wasn't fair. Animals like that should have to die exactly the same way. But no. Old Charlie enjoys his "retirement" off the backs of Californians, racking in money and has a freakin' fan club. The insanity of it all. And that Susana Atkins wanted out to die in peace. Oh my God! She should've been hung and quartered like they did criminals in the middle ages. All of them should've been dealt with but I know they will when they face the Lord. Wonder what they'll say to him.
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It is outrageous that both Krenwinkle and Van Houten earned degrees while in prison. And that Krenwinkle counsels other prisoners.
Gee, I had to pay for my education. And if I was in prison I certainly wouldn't want to be counseled by anyone who did what she did.
The only thing CA did right about this group was keeping Atkins in prison. I was afraid they were going to let her ou16d0t to die.
Who cares if she was too ill to be a threat to anyone, you don't get a pass after you do what they did.
They should have all been put to death.
Gee, I had to pay for my education. And if I was in prison I certainly wouldn't want to be counseled by anyone who did what she did.
The only thing CA did right about this group was keeping Atkins in prison. I was afraid they were going to let her ou16d0t to die.
Who cares if she was too ill to be a threat to anyone, you don't get a pass after you do what they did.
They should have all been put to death.
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Now that the day has passed (partially uneventful), I guess I can say what is on my mind about it: I HATE THAT DAY!!!
I hate that I was born on that day and year. I hate that my very first birthday began with a bad omen. I hate that nearly every year it rains (once there was a hurricanesurprisingly, no one but me and family showed up for the b-day party), or it's the hottest damn day on the books. I hate that my sister died on my 5th; that my grandfather died on 17th. I hate that I always want to hide under a rock and pray for the next 24 hours to pass ASAP. I hate that I anticipate Friday 13th more than Aug 8th. I hate that I was born on that day. I hate that the first day of my life was the last of a woman who didn't deserve to die. I hate that I was born. I hate that day. I hate it. I hate it. I HATE IT!!!
To put it in a nutshell: if I could go back in time, I would have traded places with Paul Richard in a heartbeatokay, I'll have to rethink that, because he wouldn't have deserved my family. But I still wish I could go back and change things.
And for those wondering about my rant, I was born 0745 08 AUG 1969.
House: Hey I can be a jerk to people I haven't slept with. I am that good.
I hate that I was born on that day and year. I hate that my very first birthday began with a bad omen. I hate that nearly every year it rains (once there was a hurricanesurprisingly, no one but me and family showed up for the b-day party), or it's the hottest damn day on the books. I hate that my sister died on my 5th; that my grandfather died on 17th. I hate that I always want to hide under a rock and pray for the next 24 hours to pass ASAP. I hate that I anticipate Friday 13th more than Aug 8th. I hate that I was born on that day. I hate that the first day of my life was the last of a woman who didn't deserve to die. I hate that I was born. I hate that day. I hate it. I hate it. I HATE IT!!!
To put it in a nutshell: if I could go back in time, I would have traded places with Paul Richard in a heartbeatokay, I'll have to rethink that, because he wouldn't have deserved my family. But I still wish I could go back and change things.
And for those wondering about my rant, I was born 0745 08 AUG 1969.
House: Hey I can be a jerk to people I haven't slept with. I am that good.
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Not to be nitpicky, but Paul would've been 42, not 41. It's hard to believe, it makes you wonder what he might've been doing with his life. Of course, I wonder what they all might've been doing now.
Flash, we need to chat sometime, it's good to see you here again.
Flash, we need to chat sometime, it's good to see you here again.
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I think Aug 11th would have been Abigail's 68th birthday. Leno would h5b4ave been 86 Aug 6th.
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Maybe don't think of the personal tragedies that are associated with that date for you, though I know it must be hard, but think that perhaps has one soul left this world, you were brought in to remember the beautiful memory of that person.
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FlashShe didn't die on the 8th!!! She died on the 9th of August. Have you been hating your birthday all this time without knowing that? OMG I'm sorry. Did no one point this out to you? They should have. Sorry for all your pain and sorry. My neice's birthday is 9/11. My friend's b'day is June 12 when OJ Simpson slaughtered his wife and her friend. My b'day is Oct 25 when Susan Smith drove her little boys into a lake and let them drown. New Year's Eve is when Rick Nelson was killed in a plane crash. Something bad happens every day and we can't do anything about it. Try to be happy on your day. Don't hate it. Find a reason to celebrate life. Jesus loves you!
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Funny I was in Tampa Florida on night of the 8th in a big house (one floor) on a large grass filled property similiar to hers and was left alone that night with my baby as my family went out to eat. I was very uneasy and couldn't help but feel frightened.
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Actually, she died the night of 8 Aug. Officially, the day is not over until 6 am when Hawai'i hits midnight. And there have been too many weird things that have happened on that day for me to EVER like it. I hate it. I despise it. I loathe it. NOTHING anyone tells me will EVER get me to like, appreciate, or respect that day. The only great memory I have is when I flew from the States on Aug 7 to Australia and landed on the 9th because we crossed the ITL and the 8th NEVER existed. I think I did a happy dance stepping off the plane in Sydney.
And since there was no "official" documented time of death, they usually go by when the body was discovered.
No matter what, that day is cursed.
House: Hey I can be a jerk to people I haven't slept with. I am that good.
And since there was no "official" documented time of death, they usually go by when the body was discovered.
No matter what, that day is cursed.
House: Hey I can be a jerk to people I haven't slept with. I am that good.
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Officially, the day is not over until 6 am when Hawai'i hits midnight.
WTH? She was in L.A. She died on the 9th. Look, it was awful. AWFUL, it makes me sad and angry and a little scared that humans can do this evil, but you didn't know her. The fact that you hated your bday all your life because a little known actress and her friends met a grisly end is a little weird. Ppl get v invested in things like this .. but you didn't know her. The whole case has been sensationalised over the years. The hard truth is that a bunch of psycho druggies broke into a house and killed the occupants in as sick a manner as they could. These killers are not anything special, they don't deserve to be viewed with fear. They are locked up and old now. HA! They will all die behind bars. Ppl glamourise these idiots and i think it is a disservice to the victims. They were just unlucky. It wasn't fate. It was bad luck.
You say you have other reasons to hate your bday and yeah it sucks that you were born on a day when a horrid thing happened, but evil things happen every day.Your bday just happens to mark a v famous crime. Maybe stop dwelling on their death and concentrate on making it a nice day. Do you have friends? Go out with them. That day is already the worst day in the world for the victims families, what give you the right to think of it in the same way. They have no choice except to live with this life sentence - you have a choice and you are choosing to let a stranger's death ruin your bday. Really - get a grip!
The important thing is not2stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. Einstein
WTH? She was in L.A. She died on the 9th. Look, it was awful. AWFUL, it makes me sad and angry and a little scared that humans can do this evil, but you didn't know her. The fact that you hated your bday all your life because a little known actress and her friends met a grisly end is a little weird. Ppl get v invested in things like this .. but you didn't know her. The whole case has been sensationalised over the years. The hard truth is that a bunch of psycho druggies broke into a house and killed the occupants in as sick a manner as they could. These killers are not anything special, they don't deserve to be viewed with fear. They are locked up and old now. HA! They will all die behind bars. Ppl glamourise these idiots and i think it is a disservice to the victims. They were just unlucky. It wasn't fate. It was bad luck.
You say you have other reasons to hate your bday and yeah it sucks that you were born on a day when a horrid thing happened, but evil things happen every day.Your bday just happens to mark a v famous crime. Maybe stop dwelling on their death and concentrate on making it a nice day. Do you have friends? Go out with them. That day is already the worst day in the world for the victims families, what give you the right to think of it in the same way. They have no choice except to live with this life sentence - you have a choice and you are choosing to let a stranger's death ruin your bday. Really - get a grip!
The important thing is not2stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. Einstein
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Well, THAT was by far the rudest thing I have ever read. How dare YOU presume to know why or how someone feels on any given day?
Although I do agree they died after midnight on the 9th California time, doesn't mean that it's ok for you to say something so cold and callous.
I hope some day Flash, you can enjoy your birthday for the day it is to you, not what it represents to the world.
But for you, Recessionista, to say she shouldn't be upset, just because she never met Sharon, is NOT right.
My brother passed away the day after John Lennon's birthday and although any day to lose someone you love is hard, it would have been harder to think about his death being the day John was born.
I suppose that's wrong in your eyes too, but big WHOOP!!!!! We humans are made with feelings and if a certain person feels close to someone or empathy with someone whether they ever met them or not, is their choice.
If you don't, well, good for you, but it doesn't mean that no one else can or does.
Although I do agree they died after midnight on the 9th California time, doesn't mean that it's ok for you to say something so cold and callous.
I hope some day Flash, you can enjoy your birthday for the day it is to you, not what it represents to the world.
But for you, Recessionista, to say she shouldn't be upset, just because she never met Sharon, is NOT right.
My brother passed away the day after John Lennon's birthday and although any day to lose someone you love is hard, it would have been harder to think about his death being the day John was born.
I suppose that's wrong in your eyes too, but big WHOOP!!!!! We humans are made with feelings and if a certain person feels close to someone or empathy with someone whether they ever met them or not, is their choice.
If you don't, well, good for you, but it doesn't mean that no one else can or does.
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LMFAOOO!!! Your reply was hilarious! Thanks for the laugh
THAT was by far the rudest thing I have ever read.
Seriously? You have never read anything RUDER, ANYTHING?
How was anything i said cold or callous? I told the guy to get a grip because he nearly has a nervous breakdown every yr on his bday because it just HAPPENED to coincide with a famous crime? He doesn't know Sharon. I have every empathy in the world for Sharon, but it doesn't mean her death should have any tangible effect on my life. That is just crazy thinking.
And sorry dude, I lost a brother too and i can tell you that i wouldn't give a sh!t what celebrity had a bday on the day he died. I am kind of too wrapped up in missing my brother, not thinking about the randomness of the bday of a singer i never knew. What kind of world are we living in that we equate the loss of celebrities in any way with family members
You both need to get on with your lives, deal with your own losses - of ppl you actually KNEW, and treat this case in an appropriate manner, not as something that effects your life 42 years later.
This is not me minimising what happened to those ppl, it was the worst and i feel badly for their families. But you have to sort out your priorities and get some perspective, seriously!!!
The important thing is not2stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. Einstein
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You LOVE being rude don't you
Oh and btw, the main reason I am the way I am is, the loss-in one form or another-of:
1 father
1 stepfather
2 mothers
2 brothers
numerous aunts and uncles
a cousin I was extremely close to. Not to mention other family members.
Let's see how funny you think this is.!!!!!
I could go on, but let me just say, it's my love of Beatles music and other music I listen to, in addition tv shows i watch that keep me sane when i miss my family to much.
You say you suffered loss. i sincerely doubt it, but for your sake I hope no on238e extremely close to you and if you do, maybe you might think things a little differently
Oh and btw, the main reason I am the way I am is, the loss-in one form or another-of:
1 father
1 stepfather
2 mothers
2 brothers
numerous aunts and uncles
a cousin I was extremely close to. Not to mention other family members.
Let's see how funny you think this is.!!!!!
I could go on, but let me just say, it's my love of Beatles music and other music I listen to, in addition tv shows i watch that keep me sane when i miss my family to much.
You say you suffered loss. i sincerely doubt it, but for your sake I hope no on238e extremely close to you and if you do, maybe you might think things a little differently
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Well, I sincerely doubt you suffered loss - see how that works? I can say that too :)
the irony of you calling me rude. LOL
idiot. Get a grip, enjoying somebodies music and gaining comfort from it is not the same as treating a celeb's death as if it was a family member and letting it ruin your bday to the point of nervous breakdown. Y'all need to see a psychiatrist if it effects you so deeply!!! Crazy fools
The important thing is not2stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. Einstein
the irony of you calling me rude. LOL
idiot. Get a grip, enjoying somebodies music and gaining comfort from it is not the same as treating a celeb's death as if it was a family member and letting it ruin your bday to the point of nervous breakdown. Y'all need to see a psychiatrist if it effects you so deeply!!! Crazy fools
The important thing is not2stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. Einstein
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And you are 2000a rude insufferable moron.
HOW DARE YOU????
You are the idiot
TROLL!!!!
HOW DARE YOU????
You are the idiot
TROLL!!!!
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I know you realise I am right and are now acting in such a defensive and hostile manner due to feeling embarrassed. That is OK. Just try not to make this incident effect your life. Best of Luck, Rusty!
The important thing is not2stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. Einstein
The important thing is not2stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. Einstein
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Have to say I agree with Recessionista on this one. People get SOOOO into celebrities, etc; they need to really get a grip and concentrate on LIVING THEIR LIFE. I heartily agree: Sharon and her friends' death was BEYOND horrible, it's hard to think of a murder that's more horrendous. But you need to really try to get your own life into perspective; you can mourn for Sharon and friends, but at the same time, life has to go on. Like someone else said, there are tragedies happening every single day-which is presumably somebodie's birthday. Try to live your life, not bring it down with bad thoughts and feelings I am THE biggest Sharon fan, and try to collect everything about her (I have a few scrapbooks) but I try not to think of her sad death and concentrate more on her beautiful life and what she accomplished in it.just my opinion.
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Phew! Glad to see there are rational folk on here. I honestly think ppl like that need help. There is something missing in their psyche that allows them to rationalise and distance themselves from events like these. Flash even wants to give up his own life for Sharon's baby? *Alarm bells*
I think you have it in perspective. Sharon was not v famous, she became so legendary from her brutal7ec death. That is the hard truth. It just feels wrong that ppl like Flash and Rusty are letting the crime dictate their lives. It is almost like they feed off of the gruesomeness and use it as an excuse to hate their lives. Some ppl will always be interested in grisly tales like this, but some take it way too far.
I;m not saying this to be mean to them i just feel that nobody has called them out on their stupidity their whole lives. There is a difference in remembering a celebrity and giving them a thought or 2 when you see it is their anniversary, but dedicating your life to it is whacked!!! Honesty 101!
The important thing is not2stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. Einstein
I think you have it in perspective. Sharon was not v famous, she became so legendary from her brutal7ec death. That is the hard truth. It just feels wrong that ppl like Flash and Rusty are letting the crime dictate their lives. It is almost like they feed off of the gruesomeness and use it as an excuse to hate their lives. Some ppl will always be interested in grisly tales like this, but some take it way too far.
I;m not saying this to be mean to them i just feel that nobody has called them out on their stupidity their whole lives. There is a difference in remembering a celebrity and giving them a thought or 2 when you see it is their anniversary, but dedicating your life to it is whacked!!! Honesty 101!
The important thing is not2stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. Einstein
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ABSOLUTELY! I ditto everything you just said, Recessionista. Like I said before, YES it was horrific and I'm not trying to take anything away from that, or downplaying it. Butttt.you have to get things into perspective, you cannot live your life in that constant state. It's exhausting for one. And for another, what does it get you? You can't go backward and change anything. To me, I like to celebrate Sharon's life and think of her that way. It's healthier and more productive in the long run ;) Yes, I say some psych help 101 is needed, stat!
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It just feels wrong that ppl like Flash and Rusty are letting the crime dictate their lives. It is almost like they feed off of the gruesomeness and use it as an excuse to hate their lives.
Excuse me, but I do NOT let the crimes dictate my life nor do I feed off the gruesomeness of the crimes.
I just happen to think it is beyond horrible that a 26 year old mother to be's life is over at the hands of a band of nomads who could have made themselves so much more than they became.
I come to this board to read info on Sharon, the living breathing woman, NOT to be insulted just because I happen to grieve for her not being able to have her child and grow old with her children and grandchildren.
Also, if my grieving for a father that I barely remember, is impossible for you to comprehend, well bully for you. Maybe you got to grow up with yours and take him for granted constantly. Well, sorry I can't do that. Mine's been six feet under the ground since three weeks after my 6th birthday.!!!!!
And yeah, I DO RESENT THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY!!!!
So sue me!!!!
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Since I opened the can of worms, I guess I owe a thorough explanation for my comments. Thank God (yes, I said the G-word!) for unlimited characters.
I have ALWAYS hated my birthday. LOOOOOOOOOOONG before I knew what had happened that day, I have always detested that day for a reason I can't put my finger on. Just as some people hate/fear/loathe/detest/avoid Friday the 13th for no other reason than it's a "bad luck" day, I have had the same view of Aug 8th. My unborn sister died on my 5th birthday. Of all the deaths that have occured over the last 42 years, that is the one I will never get past. That had nothing to do with Sharon - I didn't even know who Sharon was when I was five. Somewhere along the line, I got to hear that it should have been me instead of Casey, who died, and with the way things turned out with the events in my life (some way too horrid to relay to a complete stranger) and the parents I got in the lottery of life, I wondereed if maybe they were right.
It nearly always rains on that day. Some call it a blessing. Perhaps, but a hurricane? A couple more? Yeah, I stopped inviting people to a party that was not going to happen or was going to be rained out half way thru. Besides, why subject innocent people to my family?
Death is attracted to that day. I knew that my grandfather was going to die on my 17th. I didn't want a party that day, but my parents told me I had to. When the call came two hours before the guests arrived, I got in the car and ran. I was told that what I did was rude and I had an obligation to cut the cake. I was also threatened with physical punishment if I didn't show up. Why the party couldn't be cancelled was beyond me but I showed up. I got to hear how my grandfather would have wanted me to be happy. WTF? The man hated me! He was probably gloating! Right around that time I started putting two and two together and Sharon's murder was just another brick in the wall.
Now, there have been some good things that happened that I cannot ignore and I embrace: Dustin Hoffman shares my day, and Princess Beatrice was born (what a wonderful 19th b-day present!), and the Cubbies turned on lights in Wrigley Field (that one is still debatable and I joke that by doing that, they extended their curse by another centuryand they are proving me right!).
The hardest thing I ever had to do was being pregnant on that date. San Antonio hit a high of 69 degrees that day! Don't believe me, look it up! Then it rained.
My son nearly died from an asthma attack on my 30th b-day. I had a small dinner party planned, and this time, instead of following my parents' example, I cancelled the damn thing and got my son to the ER. Screw the party. Screw my guests feelings. Screw that day.
When that day comes around, I go on with life. I am usually working, so I don't get a choice to opt out of everything for 24 hours. I trudge along and wait for the hours to tick by and then breathe a sigh when it's over. It doesn't mean that depression doesn't grip me.
My ex was killed on Mother's Day. Guess what? I don't celebrate Mother's Day either. That's my perogative and right as an American. I celebrate all the other days. I joke that I should have Father's Day, and considering my grandfather was born on the first one, I chuckle at the irony. But hell, I'm a grandma now, so screw MD and FD - I can celebrate Grandparents' Day!!! There is a silver lining!
Do I wish I could trade places with Paul Richard? Not in the sense that I would have been the one in Sharon - I think he would have been a more productive member of society. But you know what? I would have traded places with my ex in a heart beat that horrible morning. Maybe he would have been a better parent. Maybe things would have turned out different. Maybe.
There are people who will avoid 9/11. They will hide, turn off their phones, draw their drapes, and mourn. Some do it on Christmas. Others on Mother's Day. Some do it on Friday 13th. That is their right. Aug 8th is MY day to feel how ever the hell I want to. If I want to beat my chest and cry in anguish, that is my right. Not every bad thing in the world has happened on that day, I never said that, but enough to mda0ake me say "Mmmm, maybe it's best to avoid this thing all together".
I respect your right to tell me to get a grip. Maybe you meant it with kindness, or maybe with total bitchinessI don't know. Honestly, I don't care. I don't know you and what's in your heart. But in the same breath, you don't know me and what's transpired in my life, either. I appreciate your sentiment, but until you have walked a mile in my shoes, maybe you should practice what you preach. The next time you see someone saying they hate Friday the 13th, or any other day, tell them to get a grip. But you know what, it is what it is. You're a kid who probably hasn't lived much life. Don't worry, someday you will be older with experience and you'll understand things better.
Oh, did I just assume something about you? Yeah, well, that's life. Get a grip.
House: Hey I can be a jerk to people I haven't slept with. I am that good.
I have ALWAYS hated my birthday. LOOOOOOOOOOONG before I knew what had happened that day, I have always detested that day for a reason I can't put my finger on. Just as some people hate/fear/loathe/detest/avoid Friday the 13th for no other reason than it's a "bad luck" day, I have had the same view of Aug 8th. My unborn sister died on my 5th birthday. Of all the deaths that have occured over the last 42 years, that is the one I will never get past. That had nothing to do with Sharon - I didn't even know who Sharon was when I was five. Somewhere along the line, I got to hear that it should have been me instead of Casey, who died, and with the way things turned out with the events in my life (some way too horrid to relay to a complete stranger) and the parents I got in the lottery of life, I wondereed if maybe they were right.
It nearly always rains on that day. Some call it a blessing. Perhaps, but a hurricane? A couple more? Yeah, I stopped inviting people to a party that was not going to happen or was going to be rained out half way thru. Besides, why subject innocent people to my family?
Death is attracted to that day. I knew that my grandfather was going to die on my 17th. I didn't want a party that day, but my parents told me I had to. When the call came two hours before the guests arrived, I got in the car and ran. I was told that what I did was rude and I had an obligation to cut the cake. I was also threatened with physical punishment if I didn't show up. Why the party couldn't be cancelled was beyond me but I showed up. I got to hear how my grandfather would have wanted me to be happy. WTF? The man hated me! He was probably gloating! Right around that time I started putting two and two together and Sharon's murder was just another brick in the wall.
Now, there have been some good things that happened that I cannot ignore and I embrace: Dustin Hoffman shares my day, and Princess Beatrice was born (what a wonderful 19th b-day present!), and the Cubbies turned on lights in Wrigley Field (that one is still debatable and I joke that by doing that, they extended their curse by another centuryand they are proving me right!).
The hardest thing I ever had to do was being pregnant on that date. San Antonio hit a high of 69 degrees that day! Don't believe me, look it up! Then it rained.
My son nearly died from an asthma attack on my 30th b-day. I had a small dinner party planned, and this time, instead of following my parents' example, I cancelled the damn thing and got my son to the ER. Screw the party. Screw my guests feelings. Screw that day.
When that day comes around, I go on with life. I am usually working, so I don't get a choice to opt out of everything for 24 hours. I trudge along and wait for the hours to tick by and then breathe a sigh when it's over. It doesn't mean that depression doesn't grip me.
My ex was killed on Mother's Day. Guess what? I don't celebrate Mother's Day either. That's my perogative and right as an American. I celebrate all the other days. I joke that I should have Father's Day, and considering my grandfather was born on the first one, I chuckle at the irony. But hell, I'm a grandma now, so screw MD and FD - I can celebrate Grandparents' Day!!! There is a silver lining!
Do I wish I could trade places with Paul Richard? Not in the sense that I would have been the one in Sharon - I think he would have been a more productive member of society. But you know what? I would have traded places with my ex in a heart beat that horrible morning. Maybe he would have been a better parent. Maybe things would have turned out different. Maybe.
There are people who will avoid 9/11. They will hide, turn off their phones, draw their drapes, and mourn. Some do it on Christmas. Others on Mother's Day. Some do it on Friday 13th. That is their right. Aug 8th is MY day to feel how ever the hell I want to. If I want to beat my chest and cry in anguish, that is my right. Not every bad thing in the world has happened on that day, I never said that, but enough to mda0ake me say "Mmmm, maybe it's best to avoid this thing all together".
I respect your right to tell me to get a grip. Maybe you meant it with kindness, or maybe with total bitchinessI don't know. Honestly, I don't care. I don't know you and what's in your heart. But in the same breath, you don't know me and what's transpired in my life, either. I appreciate your sentiment, but until you have walked a mile in my shoes, maybe you should practice what you preach. The next time you see someone saying they hate Friday the 13th, or any other day, tell them to get a grip. But you know what, it is what it is. You're a kid who probably hasn't lived much life. Don't worry, someday you will be older with experience and you'll understand things better.
Oh, did I just assume something about you? Yeah, well, that's life. Get a grip.
House: Hey I can be a jerk to people I haven't slept with. I am that good.
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You have a bizaare obsession with celebrities who were born or who died on your bday. Just sayin!
No, death is attracted to every day. I bet every single person could check their date of bi5b4rth and come up with a terrible tragedy that they could use as an excuse to wallow in misery. I understand that it's a horrid day for you because your grandad and sister died that day. Totally see where you are coming from there, but you made it sound like it was Sharon's death more than anything that made it so painful for you. To be honest, if i had lost my sister and even a grandad i didn't really like, or if it was a date when my child got really sick, then the Manson murders would barely be an after thought.
To put it in a nutshell: if I could go back in time, I would have traded places with Paul Richard in a heartbeatokay, I'll have to rethink that, because he wouldn't have deserved my family. But I still wish I could go back and change things.
Totally irrational. Maybe you need counselling or something? You don't seem to have come to terms with whatever trauma your childhood did to you, and you seem to have latched onto this tragedy in order to justify your feelings. It isn't normal to get so wrapped up in a crime that has nothing to do with you. Just because it happened on your birthday doesn't make it anything to do with you. Especially because you couldn't have even known about it until you were in your teens. I could understand better if it was your 18th and you remembered hearing about it on the news and all the gruesomeness made you sad and it effected your ability to enjoy your party. I b68get that there are sensitive ppl out there, but you seem to have taken ownership of this event and use it to justify all the bad things in your life. Seriously, go to any psychologist and they will tell you that there is more to your reaction than who died on your bday
either that or you are being a complete drama queen who needs to be brought down to earth! Feel bad for her like the rest of us, say a prayer for her on your bday, but Let Sharon and the other victim's family and friends feel their personal pain of loss, you have no right to do so. Sharon Tate and her baby have nothing to do with you.
The important thing is not2stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. Einstein
Death is attracted to that day.
No, death is attracted to every day. I bet every single person could check their date of bi5b4rth and come up with a terrible tragedy that they could use as an excuse to wallow in misery. I understand that it's a horrid day for you because your grandad and sister died that day. Totally see where you are coming from there, but you made it sound like it was Sharon's death more than anything that made it so painful for you. To be honest, if i had lost my sister and even a grandad i didn't really like, or if it was a date when my child got really sick, then the Manson murders would barely be an after thought.
To put it in a nutshell: if I could go back in time, I would have traded places with Paul Richard in a heartbeatokay, I'll have to rethink that, because he wouldn't have deserved my family. But I still wish I could go back and change things.
Totally irrational. Maybe you need counselling or something? You don't seem to have come to terms with whatever trauma your childhood did to you, and you seem to have latched onto this tragedy in order to justify your feelings. It isn't normal to get so wrapped up in a crime that has nothing to do with you. Just because it happened on your birthday doesn't make it anything to do with you. Especially because you couldn't have even known about it until you were in your teens. I could understand better if it was your 18th and you remembered hearing about it on the news and all the gruesomeness made you sad and it effected your ability to enjoy your party. I b68get that there are sensitive ppl out there, but you seem to have taken ownership of this event and use it to justify all the bad things in your life. Seriously, go to any psychologist and they will tell you that there is more to your reaction than who died on your bday
either that or you are being a complete drama queen who needs to be brought down to earth! Feel bad for her like the rest of us, say a prayer for her on your bday, but Let Sharon and the other victim's family and friends feel their personal pain of loss, you have no right to do so. Sharon Tate and her baby have nothing to do with you.
The important thing is not2stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. Einstein
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Also, if my grieving for a father that I barely remember, is impossible for you to comprehend, well bully for you. Maybe you got to grow up with yours and take him for granted constantly. Well, sorry I can't do that. Mine's been six feet under the ground since three weeks after my 6th birthday.!!!!!
And yeah, I DO RESENT THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY!!!!
WTF? Who even mentioned your dad? You seriously are comparing losing your dad to Sharon Tate? Disgraceful. OF COURSE, you are going to grieve for him. It is beyond normal to carry that loss with you thru your whole life, whether you knew him well or not. NOBODY here is telling you that is wrong, so i'm not even sure why you threw that out there?
I just happen to think it is beyond horrible that a 26 year old mother to be's life is over at the hands of a band of nomads who could have made themselves so much more than they became.
Oh, and the rest of us don't? You think that because we can live our lives without letting a 40 y/o crime effect us in such a deep way, that we are the ones with a problem? I said numerous times that i empathise with Sharon and the others. You are choosing to ignore that and insinuating that my heart is cold to the tragedy. You are trying to do that because you know that my perspective is normal and your infatuation with dead celebrities is ridiculous.
The important thing is not2stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. Einstein
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to some degree, recessionista (nice name), I agree with some of your points.it's the way that you make them that makes you sound just as "crazy".if not moreso.
it's been a while since we've had a $hitstorm on this board
it's been a while since we've had a $hitstorm on this board
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How does trying to talk some sense into ppl ruining their lives because of a crime that happened 42 years ago make ME crazy? Mollycoddling them is not an option, they wouldn't listen anyway! Like I said, they seem to have been around ppl who catered to their delusions rather than ppl who will tell them they are being ridiculous.
Thanks for the compliment..
The important thing is not2stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. Einstein
Thanks for the compliment..
The important thing is not2stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. Einstein
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I think you are right but you can't reason with some people.
"Books are awfully decorative, don't you think?"
"Books are awfully decorative, don't you think?"
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I think you are right but you can't reason with some people.
Too effin true!!
The important thing is not2stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. Einstein
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Cool!!
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Recessionista, just read that conversation and I wanted to tell you that I also agree with you. There's nothing cold or rude about what you're saying. I seriously think you're one of the only rational ones in this thread!
That's pretty freaking weird to HATE your birthday just because somebody died on that day. Tragedies happen every day. My sister's birthday is January 10; that was the day that 12-year-old Shanda Sharer from Indiana was kidnapped from her home by four teenage girls and was tortured for 10 hours and then lit on fire. Another absolutely horrendous and devastating death, but do you think my sister's gon5b4na let it ruin her special day? No. Of course she's sad for the family (as Flash is for Sharon's) but it's nothing to keep you from enjoying your day.
Anyways I think I am preaching to the wrong person here LOL. My heart goes out to Sharon and her friends and their surviving families; their deaths were extremely cold and heartless. But honestly, Sharon Tate was just a human being like the rest of us. She wasn't all that great of an actress (okay, please don't hate on me. I've seen a few movies with her and she's not bad, but seriously nothing special). She was gorgeous- with make up on. Without it, to me she just looks like an average human being. Unfortunately, she achieved fame through her death. It's sad, but it's the truth. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to hate on Sharon, I'm sure she was a great person but people on this board seem to treat her like she was some sort of a perfect, angelic woman when in fact she was human like the rest of us.
Sorry for the rant- but just throwing my 2 cents in!
That's pretty freaking weird to HATE your birthday just because somebody died on that day. Tragedies happen every day. My sister's birthday is January 10; that was the day that 12-year-old Shanda Sharer from Indiana was kidnapped from her home by four teenage girls and was tortured for 10 hours and then lit on fire. Another absolutely horrendous and devastating death, but do you think my sister's gon5b4na let it ruin her special day? No. Of course she's sad for the family (as Flash is for Sharon's) but it's nothing to keep you from enjoying your day.
Anyways I think I am preaching to the wrong person here LOL. My heart goes out to Sharon and her friends and their surviving families; their deaths were extremely cold and heartless. But honestly, Sharon Tate was just a human being like the rest of us. She wasn't all that great of an actress (okay, please don't hate on me. I've seen a few movies with her and she's not bad, but seriously nothing special). She was gorgeous- with make up on. Without it, to me she just looks like an average human being. Unfortunately, she achieved fame through her death. It's sad, but it's the truth. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to hate on Sharon, I'm sure she was a great person but people on this board seem to treat her like she was some sort of a perfect, angelic woman when in fact she was human like the rest of us.
Sorry for the rant- but just throwing my 2 cents in!
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I find it bizaare, also. It's like a comedy you would see on The Simpsons, about obsessive fans. Except it's quite sad that it effects their lives.
And true about Sharon, it is her death that made her famous. In some ways those fans are giving the killers power by being so afraid of the date.
Like i said at the start of this convo, those *beep* do not deserve our fear, they were not powerful masterminds or untouchable, they were a group of tweaked out, mentally unstable losers. Sharon and her friends were deeply unfortunate that it was their house that was chosen.In the cold light of day it was a savage murder, not the Hollywood thriller see ppl it as.
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And true about Sharon, it is her death that made her famous. In some ways those fans are giving the killers power by being so afraid of the date.
Like i said at the start of this convo, those *beep* do not deserve our fear, they were not powerful masterminds or untouchable, they were a group of tweaked out, mentally unstable losers. Sharon and her friends were deeply unfortunate that it was their house that was chosen.In the cold light of day it was a savage murder, not the Hollywood thriller see ppl it as.
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Exactly, couldn't agree more. You are 100% correct that by Flash hating his/her birthday, it's just giving more power to the killers.
Ironically, I do have a friend who shares a birthday with Charles Manson. She kinda just jokes about it, I mean, what can you do? He's a horrible human being, but you can't control what day you're born on, so you might as well enjoy it. Tragedies happen every day. I can't think of a particular tragedy that happened on my birthday but I'm sure there was something. Either way, you're right, Flash is an overly obsessed fan.
Ironically, I do have a friend who shares a birthday with Charles Manson. She kinda just jokes about it, I mean, what can you do? He's a horrible human being, but you can't control what day you're born on, so you might as well enjoy it. Tragedies happen every day. I can't think of a particular tragedy that happened on my birthday but I'm sure there was something. Either way, you're right, Flash is an overly obsessed fan.
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Alicia, I like your post on the previous page. I like Sharon, but I'm not obsessed by her. I don't think she was a great acteress either. Maybe she would've become one, maybe her career would've petered out like so many of her contemporaries who were has beens by the 1970's. I also think the makeup is what made her looks really stand out. While she was pretty with or without makeup, it was the makeup that emphasized her features and made her stand out.
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It's obvious that she wasn't a great actress. Unfortunately she has become well known bc of her horrible death. I do think she was beautiful though. Even though she did wear a lot of makeup, she was beautiful without it also. Famous women who are known for their beauty always wear tons of makeup. No one wakes up in the morni5b4ng looking stunning. No oneBut its unfair to say she wasn't beautiful without the makeup.
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Did someone say she wasn't beautiful without makeup? I must've missed that. I know that I meant that the eye makeup really emphasized her eyes. It was a great acccent for them. They were the only features she really emphasized as she wore neutral tones on her lips and cheeks.
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Exactly. I agree that she had a natural beauty. She had beautiful facial features and beautiful bone structure. The make up enhanced her features (specifically her eyes) but it was not what made her stand out. Her beauty made her stand out. Make up can only do so much.
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Dearest children of the lost tribe of Bronte(two dots over that e because, heygothic writers had swag before P.Diddy invented the abbreviation):
Irrational fear is one of the most dangerous illusions a human can fetter their life with. I am only opening this letter with that line because my gut reaction to this post was"hmmmm. Either Wednesday Addams has managed to influence and inspire more slightly creepy teens and old pedophiles pretending to be teens than the world would ever credit her with, or you are just huge Sharon Tate fans who not only feel abject repulsion at the very real risk of death that comes with making movies, given all the "suicides" that successful, intelligent people really couldn't plausibly have done themselves, as well as the very great and fascinating study of the film media in general. I myself was a very successful actress a long time ago yet now I simply love actors and wish to protect them from any further senseless assassinations by sick, hateful and superstitious murderers who always get away with itexcept for these people, of course.
Lindsey Lohan is the new Sharon Tate and she could use a lot more kindness from you all in your commentary online if ever the opportunity should present itself. A girl this resilient in the face of some of the most embar111crassingly snobby, dismissive and unenlightened insults at such a young age with so little parental preparation deserves a lot more class from the people who enjoy more abundant flattery, or simply just have no balls and can't stand a girl who has them like Lilo. I was that girl myself once(some will try to pull that high school "she's not clean enough" stuff once in awhile, but that only works on really stupid people), and I really am just sick of seeing them cut her up with words in this life. Obviouslythis girl's got something more valuable than a nicer career and a stable family to keep her company.
If you are interested in joining Boudicca's Army of Fearless Americans who really want this country to be free as we were told it was back in elementary school, because hypocrisy and subtle abuse and violence done out of hatred and jealousy make this Double Eagle Leigh(alifetimeago!) more determined to crush *beep* with my baresomeone else's bare hand that needs to pay their dues to me and my family.
Living lies and telling lies just because you think getting away with it is satisfying will only make you mentally ill later. Look at the world today and you'll see what I mean. Ciao!
Irrational fear is one of the most dangerous illusions a human can fetter their life with. I am only opening this letter with that line because my gut reaction to this post was"hmmmm. Either Wednesday Addams has managed to influence and inspire more slightly creepy teens and old pedophiles pretending to be teens than the world would ever credit her with, or you are just huge Sharon Tate fans who not only feel abject repulsion at the very real risk of death that comes with making movies, given all the "suicides" that successful, intelligent people really couldn't plausibly have done themselves, as well as the very great and fascinating study of the film media in general. I myself was a very successful actress a long time ago yet now I simply love actors and wish to protect them from any further senseless assassinations by sick, hateful and superstitious murderers who always get away with itexcept for these people, of course.
Lindsey Lohan is the new Sharon Tate and she could use a lot more kindness from you all in your commentary online if ever the opportunity should present itself. A girl this resilient in the face of some of the most embar111crassingly snobby, dismissive and unenlightened insults at such a young age with so little parental preparation deserves a lot more class from the people who enjoy more abundant flattery, or simply just have no balls and can't stand a girl who has them like Lilo. I was that girl myself once(some will try to pull that high school "she's not clean enough" stuff once in awhile, but that only works on really stupid people), and I really am just sick of seeing them cut her up with words in this life. Obviouslythis girl's got something more valuable than a nicer career and a stable family to keep her company.
If you are interested in joining Boudicca's Army of Fearless Americans who really want this country to be free as we were told it was back in elementary school, because hypocrisy and subtle abuse and violence done out of hatred and jealousy make this Double Eagle Leigh(alifetimeago!) more determined to crush *beep* with my baresomeone else's bare hand that needs to pay their dues to me and my family.
Living lies and telling lies just because you think getting away with it is satisfying will only make you mentally ill later. Look at the world today and you'll see what I mean. Ciao!
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I'm really confused too. How is Lindsey Lohan the new Sharon Tate? Sorry but that doesn't make any sense.
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Lohan is hideous looking especially compared to Sharon Tate.
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"Lindsey Lohan is the new Sharon Tate"? How do you figure this? I see no similarities at all.
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