Paradise Lost: The Child Murders at Robin Hood Hills : WM3 GUILTY

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What the supporters of the WM3 do not understand is that all 4 documentaries were created by a directpr who believed that they were innocent. Right off the bat he made these films with the notion that they were innocent. They are not. It was just presented In that fashion. People make comments such as Theres a little thing called DNA evidence, of which there was none. And that my friends is a blatant lie. The attorneys defending these monsters didnt present all evidence. There were semen stains on one child. I wonder why that was never submitted in court, along with a million other incriminating pieces of evidence. They were never brought to light or for a more honest explanation were inadmissible in court, or just merely buried. There are so many unanswered questions and so many people involved in these crimes its unbelievable. From the first time I saw damien echols , just by looking at him and into his eyes even through a television screen, I KNEW he was pure evil. Misskelley was a scared low intelligence child who just went along with what was happening and admitted / confessed over and over to police, friends and fellow inmates. One inmate who sent a letter to the authorities begged to keep Misskelley behind bars because of how psychotic he really was. Baldwin worshiped Echols and would NEVER betray him, so what he did was deny deny deny, just like damien. In and out of hospitals all his life for psychotic tendencies echols proclaimed that his only goal in life was to be famous. And now he is. The fact that celebrities that didnt even know him or the other two killers came forward and raised money to get that out make absolutely zero sense to me. This wasnt like Peta entering a slaughterhouse and saving animals. That would warrant such support but not when 3 babies are brutally tortured and murdered. In my opinion all of those STUPID celebrities are just as guilty for getting them out of jail. Lorri echols doesnt have a brain In her head either and if you even watch him in interviews he never shows emotion, not a smile, a laugh or any sign that is he human. He planned on murdering children and bragged about it. He also intended to do it again and there were witnesses who testified that they heard him say these words. They are not innocents wrongly accused. They are murderers who were released by a damn alford plea and get to live on with their hero like titles and pity from everyone they meet. Michael Moores parents should be the ones locked in a room with them and be able to put them to their deaths in anyway they see fit. There was evidence, TONS of evidence. It was just kept from us. When the despicable wm3 die they will rot in hell and Michael Moore, Christopher Beyers, and Stevie Branch will finally be free.

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There was a partial palm print found at the scene that did not match Damian, Jesse or Jason, nor did it match any of the officers/detective at the scene. The police pretty much just ignored the partial palm print.

There was deception on the part of the prosecutor, especially with regard to the knife as the informant who advised him of the knife advised him that Jason's mother threw it in the lake the previous year before the murder. At trial he presented it as if it was his idea to search the lake where he accidentally found the knife.

There's just too much reasonable doubt that it is simply mind boggling that they were convicted in the first place.

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Jesus Christ on a pogo stick, you are either insane or have spent too much time on Non boards to make statements like this. Let's go down the list.


What the supporters of the WM3 do not understand is that all 4 documentaries were created by a directpr who believed that they were innocent.


Are you referring to the Paradise Lost series? If so, there are 3 films in the trilogy. Or are you also lumping West of Memphis into this list of yours as well? So let's take a step even deeper to your own insanity.

Paradise Lost 1: Directed by Joe Berlinger & Bruce Sinofsky
Paradise Lost 2: Directed by Joe Berlinger & Bruce Sinofsky
Paradise Lost 3: Directed by Joe Berlinger & Bruce Sinofsky
West of Memphis: Directed by Amy Berg

So we have three different directors who made films about the murder. Not just "a directpr who believed that they were innocent" as you put it.


Right off the bat he made these films with the notion that they were innocent. They are not.


I disagree. I believe the first Paradise Lost film goes into more detail about the investigation and shows a favorable side for both nons/supporters. As for their guilt, that is just your opinion.


It was just presented In that fashion. People make comments such as Theres a little thing called DNA evidence, of which there was none. And that my friends is a blatant lie.


There was DNA testing done on hairs found AT the crime scene (except for the negroid hair, which was "lost") and none of it matched the WM3. So what was the other DNA found?


The attorneys defending these monsters didnt present all evidence. There were semen stains on one child. I wonder why that was never submitted in court, along with a million other incriminating pieces of evidence.


Quick lesson in law, defense attorneys do not present evidence. The prosecution does, they would have been the ones to drop the ball, not the defense. Also, please cite to me the coroner report or anything indicating semen stains on one child (I know exactly what you are talking about and you are wrong. You are talking about one of Jessie's confessions claiming that Damien or Jason used a pair of pants or a shirt to clean themselves up with). Which was never found to be the case.


They were never brought to light or for a more honest explanation were inadmissible in court, or just merely buried.


The prosecution had such a weak case, they would have jumped at any evidence that they could have had to implicate the 3. Hence why they went with a "satanic sacrifice" angle, hoping that the theme would convince the jury to overlook any physical evidence.


There are so many unanswered questions and so many people involved in these crimes its unbelievable.


Yes, like how did the police lose so much important evidence on this case? Why did the WMPD not interview Terry Hobbs at all after the murders? Why did the WMPD not go after the two boys who failed polygraph tests, knew the victims and fled to California within days of the murders? The list goes on and on!


From the first time I saw damien echols , just by looking at him and into his eyes even through a television screen, I KNEW he was pure evil.


Good God, I hope you never serve jury duty.


Misskelley was a scared low intelligence child who just went along with what was happening and admitted / confessed over and over to police, friends and fellow inmates. One inmate who sent a letter to the authorities begged to keep Misskelley behind bars because of how psychotic he really was.


You are partially right. Jessie is an idiot. He did confess multiple times to the crime. But not a single one of his confessions collaborated with the murders. That is why the first confession you hear the cops keep leading him to the right answer, which he completely get's wrong. He never confessed to friends or fellow inmates nor did an inmate write a letter begging to keep him locked up. This is just the voices in your head telling you this crap.


Baldwin worshiped Echols and would NEVER betray him, so what he did was deny deny deny, just like damien.


Wow


In and out of hospitals all his life for psychotic tendencies echols proclaimed that his only goal in life was to be famous. And now he is.


His whole life? Why don't you go back and research how many times he was put in the puzzle factory and how long each stay was.


The fact that celebrities that didnt even know him or the other two killers came forward and raised money to get that out make absolutely zero sense to me.


You do know that just about every celebrity who supported Damien/Jason/Jessie visited them in jail, right? There are countless interviews out there discussing just that.


This wasnt like Peta entering a slaughterhouse and saving animals. That would warrant such support but not when 3 babies are brutally tortured and murdered.


I have a child about the same age as Christopher, Michael and Stevie. Believe me, what those three went through is disgusting and completely terrible. BUT I do believe a greater miss-justice is keeping 3 other kids locked up for the rest of their lives for a crime they didn't commit.


In my opinion all of those STUPID celebrities are just as guilty for getting them out of jail.


The celebrities didn't pull a late night escape on the prisons. They helped bring the case out to the masses. People who never would have heard of it found out about it due to the help of countless celebrities.


Lorri echols doesnt have a brain In her head either and if you even watch him in interviews he never shows emotion, not a smile, a laugh or any sign that is he human.


You lost me. Are you talking about Lori not having a brain in her head and that she is emotionless or are you losing your train of thought and switching over to Damien? I can explain one reason Damien wasn't smiling when he was released, his teeth were completely rotten. Death Row inmates get limited medical attention because the prisons do not feel the need to do much other than keep them alive. Do a quick search for him now, his teeth are fixed and he is smiling.


He planned on murdering children and bragged about it. He also intended to do it again and there were witnesses who testified that they heard him say these words.


Lol, you forgot to include the part in that statement where the interviewee told the cops that he saw Damien levitate. So yeah


They are not innocents wrongly accused. They are murderers who were released by a damn alford plea and get to live on with their hero like titles and pity from everyone they meet.


Once again, completely your insane opinion.


Michael Moores parents should be the ones locked in a room with them and be able to put them to their deaths in anyway they see fit.


Ah, I take it you picked the Moores since Pamela Hobbs and John Mark Byers both believe they are innocent, right?


There was evidence, TONS of evidence.


No there wasn't.


It was just kept from us.


No it wasn't.


When the despicable wm3 die they will rot in hell and Michael Moore, Christopher Beyers, and Stevie Branch will finally be free.


Where do you come up with this?

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clearly you have too much time on your hands to pick apart my post sentence by sentenceI got bored real quick and just stopped reading lol

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That's because you're dumb and you talk without thinking contrary to this guy who actually have argumentative and structured reply to all your painful to read nonsense (have you ever heard about paragraphs?)

Worst than your poor writing style is how it's because of people like you that innocent people are being jailed, or even killed by the death penalty, real murderers happily commiting more crimes because police and jury were fool enough to convict someone else, and victims not revenged.
Thanks

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For you information, I was curious, so I looked them up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Memphis_Three.

I cannot ascribe to their guilt or innocence because I wasn't at their trials, but the police tactics and the trials trouble me deeply. I do not think truth and justice were served, but my belief is based on the HBO documentary and Internet "evidence," which is not evidence at all. I would have had to be at the trials to come to a belief of guilty or not guilty.

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If your response is true, then tell me where "all over" is located on the Internet, where you have specifically read the ACTUAL court records that discuss his psychiatric records/reports and hospitalizations.

I am belaboring this issue to get the point across that heresay means nothing, a defendant's appearance means nothing, a defendant's past means nothing IF it is disallowed by the sitting judge, the medias's skewed opinions AND MEER SPECULATION by the media AND citizens mean nothing when, in THIS country, there is the search for truth and justice.

Therefore, I am only trying to get the truth, when you say this information is "all over." If any information of this nature did not come from court records, unless you yourself heard it from the defendant's mouth, I will discount it. And even if the defendant told you things of a horrific nature, I would question his state of mind.

Yes, what happened to those three little boys should never have happened and is unspeakable, horrific. But what if, in the rush to solve these crimes and convict someone, the real perpetrator or perpetrators got away to continue such brutal acts? This gives me pause and makes me shudder.

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arkayenether
21 hours ago (Fri Apr 25 2014 13:41:52) Flag

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Ok well you're an idiot.

Semen stain: that was tested, and it belonged to one of the fathers (or stepfathers, I'm not looking it up, because I feel like you should have to do the reading now).


Oh look another poster who has no idea what they are talking about and makes false claims while calling others "idiot". Too funny, I stopped reading that post after the first statement.

@BelleCBelle
If you are interested you can find most of the case documents here: http://callahan.8k.com/index.html

My advice is to research yourself and not take anything written by posters as fact. So much misinformation out there, which is pretty pathetic of those who do it in order to strengthen their cause of supporting three convicted killers.

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Thanks. I only want the truth, which the HBO documentary did not provide. I will look at the web address you cite.

People, keep an open mind!

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arkayenether
3 hours ago (Sat Apr 26 2014 14:44:38) Flag

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I admit I was wrong about that part. That being said, one mistake invalidating the entire statement? Wow, I bet you do great research


I clearly do better research than you.

Ok now that you edited out your bs claim from your original post let us take a look at the next thing in your post.



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arkayenether
1 day ago (Fri Apr 25 2014 13:41:52) Flag

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Sat Apr 26 2014 14:46:33
Ok well you're an idiot.

Misskelly confession: He was coached into the confession by the police, which happens all the time, and as far as "confessed over and over"source on him confessing again since then?


Ok let me oblige you with this one.

August 19, 1993 http://callahan.8k.com/wm3/jm_stidham_8_19_93.html

December 10, 1993 http://callahan.8k.com/wm3/jm_wilkins_stidham.html

December 15, 1993 http://callahan.8k.com/wm3/jm_ofshe.html

February 5, 1994 http://callahan.8k.com/wm3/jmpc.html

February 8, 1994 http://callahan.8k.com/wm3/jm_2_8_94_statement.html

February 17, 1994 http://callahan.8k.com/wm3/jm_feb17.html

February 21, 1994 http://callahan.8k.com/wm3/jm_crow_phone.html

I guess his own lawyer coached him too while he was alone with his client?


The website he linked you to is just as biased as supporters are. If you want to see the actual documents, then go see the actual documents. Not a website created by people desperately trying to save face after nearly two decades of being wrong.


Nope, wrong again. The website I linked is neither non or supporter. It is in fact a database of all the official documents, most of which were scanned or copied from the WMPD.

If you are going to defend convicted child killers why not take your own advice and actually research the documents yourself before advising others and calling people idiots. Might help you look less the idiot.

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What an absolute idiot.

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Well, I guess passions run high, but I don't get infantile behavior. Anyway, I am very impressed so far with the Callahan web-site. Those sure are actual documents. I know because having worked as a trial paralegal for many years, I know what the various documents would look like. Also, if you read the information and links on the board, the site is not pro or con the defendants.

There would be a tremendous amount of work required to falsify such an enormous body of work, and for what purpose? Oh please, I DON'T want to read responses from conspiracy theorists.

Human Rights: Know Them, Demand Them, Defend Them

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I hope you know that this statement invalidates the rest of that entire wall of text.

"From the first time I saw damien echols , just by looking at him and into his eyes even through a television screen, I KNEW he was pure evil"

"Nothing says "OBEY ME" like a severed head on a fence post."

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ssshhhhh

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Lmao!!! Yea real convincing when you say you can feel evil through a TV screen. Fk off you ignorant tard.

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They're not fooling everyone.

Hey, look at that! She's not crazy, she's being chased by a cheetah!

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I've always believed they were guilty. I just rewatched this documentary and nothing has changed. It's true that the direct evidence was weak and maybe not enough to prove their guilt 100%, but you can tell that not even the defense attorneys believe these three were innocent. They never strongly deny their involvement, are caught lying multiple times with failed polygraphs, and display clear violent tendencies even in the documentary.

This case is typical of many that get media attention where an ignorant public views limited evidence through a distorted lens and then wrongly assumes it knows better than all the police, judges, and jurors that sat through all the evidence. With the story being that Ecchols was being picked on because he was "different", this only drew out a certain crowd that was emotionally invested in defending him. This biased their view considerably.

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Motive and DNA evidence linking them to the crime please?


Michael Moores parents should be the ones locked in a room with them and be able to put them to their deaths in anyway they see fit.


Why ONLY Michael Moore's parents? Because Mark Byers or Pamela Hobbs wouldn't do what you want?

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Proof of motive isn't required by any court.
Plenty of people in prison convicted on purely circumstantial evidence,a court does not require exclusively DNA evidence to convict a defendant.

Hey, look at that! She's not crazy, she's being chased by a cheetah!

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It's exactly the same as 'Making a Murderer'

- Known scumbag is obviously guilty and as such is pursued by law enforcement and found guilty in a court of law
- Shameless filmmaker produces incredibly biased documentary leaving out crucial information
- Idiot public completely swallows it whole

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It's a bit different though.

Making a murderer had her body on his land, along with her vehicle on his property, her being at his place and the guy was a scumbag.

None of that was true with the WM3 case.

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It is true though that Echols was/is an established total mental case with sick fixations and behaviour that match the murders precisely, including an interest in sacrificing children for the devil, that he had no alibi, that a family said they saw him in the area at the time, covered in mud and that misskelly confessed on multiple occassions not just in one allegedly coerced situation as purported by the docos

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Agree with everything you said.

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2015/05/prweb12701214.htm

Hey, look at that! She's not crazy, she's being chased by a cheetah!

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I agree with every word you have said.
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