Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi : It's really going to hurt…

Once Luke and Leia are killed off along with Han since that's obviously how they want to make way for the new generation. Since Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Padme made up the prequel trilogy and they're all dead, it only makes sense that they'll do the same to the other trio. Luke, Han, and Leia were the team that made the original Star Wars flower and their happy ending left behind a legacy of pride and joy for the heroics that sucked us into the saga. It hurts now knowing that smiley celebration in ROTJ has gone to shame that I kind of wish they didn't start the story all over again to make way for their end. The whole purpose of Luke was to redeem his father and bring the ways of the Jedi back to the galaxy so that the Force would be in balance again which his nephew has now ruined and will inevitably bring his heroic legacy to an end along with Leia. It's probably better to see the new trilogy as non-canon since ROTJ was the end of Lucas' story for the saga and that end still feels pretty final whenever I revisit Jedi so that the trio's certain doom won't rub in.

People suffering over a children's movie, yawn so pathetic.

Men are truly a bunch of pussies these days.

Back in MY day we would get angry, not sappy. Being sad is what little girls do.

Where is the rage ? Where is the hatred ?? Where are the BALLS ???

You sound insecure. Nobody cares about your pseudo-macho BS.

Space Balls?

Hans death is poorly executed. If you're making this article based on that supposed "leaked script" those deaths are very well executed and serve a very large purpose to the Saga. I'm not saying Han's death didn't, because it did and it will continue to do so, it was just rushed to Harrison Fords comfort.

I think that Luke and Leia's death will leave a very large emotional impact on the audience and I think people will be sad and even angry. I fully do expect to hear reports of someone raging or screaming in the theater, maybe even walk out in anger. These things happen and an emotional effect like this will occur somewhere as some people have loved these characters for 40 years.


That being said these deaths will play a role in this generation of heroes. I think it'll effect Ben the most weather that script is real or not. I've always suspected he's a bit of a "Mama's boy". There's so much foreshadowing with his denial of his family and him constantly masking himself. I think his return is already set in stone. I would be amazed if Ben Organa-Solo is the "Another Hope" that was mentioned in the OT. George Luca's actually stated in an old interview that the other hope isn't Leia as most fans assumed, but rather a character from a planned sequel trilogy. If Luke failed in died that other character can't be Luke's kid. So we could assume it's possible that it's Leia's kid as Leia's death seemed unlikely in the OT. Which makes our assumptions only half wrong should this be true. Of course this is purely speculation on my part :)

Rushed to Harrison Fords comfort? You pulled that right out of your ass.

Harrison Ford signed on to the Force Awakens original script which had his character survive the film, and Poe die instead.
JJ and Kasdan did a re-write and asked Harrison if he would be ok dying in the film instead of Poe so the passing of the torch moment would make more sense.

Watch the behind the scenes before making stuff up.

We both know you're Daddy was suicidal and wanted to die for a long time now. The grand prophet George Lucas wouldn't let him die by a pathetic Stormtrooper in Return of the Jedi! So Disney wrote a new trilogy about family slathering family and you stabbed daddy!!!!

Harrison Ford despised always being associated with Star Wars and the fans kind of ruined it for him. I wouldn't be surprised if he pushed J.J. for that, though that doesn't mean he won't show up again in another film as a cameo in a flash back. I don't see him doing another leading role though. I just don't.

As for Poe, I knew about that and honestly that would have been boring. Also I find it hard to believe they would hire Oscar Isaac to kill him off in a single scene without having much depth. That's not who Oscar Isaac is, plus he wasn't a cameo. That being said I'm glad he'll get to go with the Resistance and they're doing great with his origins in the comics tracing back to his parents :)



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On Endor in Jedi, Luke tell's Leia she needs to hear from him if he doesn't make it back from his confrontation with Vader, that she is the only hope for the alliance, his sister and that in time she will learn to use her powers as he did.

Not sure what Lucas meant or said then about Leia not being the other "hope". Clearly this changed from Jedi to The Force Awakens.

Harrison Ford never stipulated his character be killed-off in the script for TFA and wasn't a contractual obligation either he has stated.

Poe Dameron was originally Wedge Antillies but actor Denis Lawson declined to return and a change was made making him a new character Poe whom did die originally on crash to Jakku.

Jar Jar Abrams made changes when Oscar Issac said he had died in last four movies he'd done and didn't want to play that again. So they had him re-appear at Resistance base in last third of film to lead the attack on Starkiller base.

JJ still felt it was necessary for some one to still die and he and Larry Kasdan came up with the idea for han to have a confrontation with his son and be killed to give Ben'Kylo's part a story-arc and they advised Harrison of the script change to which the actor had no problem with and felt it was a good farewell to his part and freed up the other character's of Leia and Luke and co to move forward in the continuing story.

Hope explains



Nothing is as it seems, nothing is just one thing and nothing is ever just over there;

These Kathleen Kennedy produced movies will never belong to the Star Wars, it doesn't feel like SW movies, it's soulless, has no logic and consistency, the plot is a mixture of scenes from the OT patched together without any sense, like we need a cantina scene, a death star scene, a yoda scene, a landspeeder scene etc
THe problem is that because of these movies, we'll never get to see real sequels. Mark, Ford and Carrie Fisher will never be there to make the sequels even if they wanted, that's why these movies are so infuriating.

i thought you said TFA was a rehash ? now your saying they don't feel like star wars movies ? have you actually seen Rogue One and TFA

Just because they rehash all their plot elements from the OT means they did it well. They did very badly, so much like it feels like a parody film.

How is it a parody film when they are 2 completely different stories ? A quest to find Luke vs a quest to return stolen Death Star plans to the rebel alliance ?

The haters are so immature, like a bunch of cry babies that can't stand the fact that people liked the movie

I loved Rogue One, but even more than a year after The Force Awakens opened have not come to like it any more or warmed to it since.

TFA was not a good movie and rehashed far to heavily from A New Hope for my liking but I was very surprised and delighted with the stand alone Rogue One and now have high hopes for the Han Solo movie.

How ever I remain cautious and reserve judgement for EP VIII - The Last Jedi to see if it bring's something new and original back into the Star Wars episodes and doesn't just retread from the classic OT as Jar Jar did with The Force Awakens.



Nothing is as it seems, nothing is just one thing and nothing is ever just over there;

I thought you said TFA was a rehash of a new hope? now your saying it doesn't feel like a star wars movie ? have you actually seen rogue one and TFA

Just do as I did and put him on ignore.

One thing is being critical and have opinions about a movie and move on. Other thing is posting in every thread rehashing the same boring things. (oh the irony)

Spoiler alert: Everybody dies someday.

Indeed, how very true.




Nothing is as it seems, nothing is just one thing and nothing is ever just over there;

Well clearly they have to kill off the Leia character now (unless they recast which most people seem to be against). And obviously Han is already gone.

But with that being the case, if I were them I would really re-consider killing off Luke. There's no reason why he couldn't become a Yoda-like figure in future movies for future characters.

BUT if they do kill him off they better send him out in a bad ass moment.

To me ROTJ never felt like the end. Since Timothy Zahn that i read a lot of comics and novels that kept the spark alive.

Many of those stories were amazingly good, with many new fan favorite characters like Mara Jade, Jacen, Jaina etc. The Yuzaan Vhong invasion was a monumental new direction.

So, i'm more that used to have the story continue. It's at the same time a shame and a blessing that everything published be it comics, novels tv shows movies is actually Canon and part of the continuity.

A lot of people criticized disney for doing that but with the story group I start to feel that a lot of thought is put into everything. In the old EU, great as it were, things were a lot loser and sometimes they had to do a lot of retcons wich i always disliked.

I have almost all the Dark Horse comics (single issues and a few trades) and almost all the novels. I have a standing order for many years in a local comic shop. I'm quite enjoying the comic run from Marvel, it seems more tight than DH wich could be all over the place (but almost always great).

This is a great time to be a new Fan or an old one that always was bothered by the non canonical issues.

You should give it a try in the new expanded material.

We're all going to die someday.

Keep in mind, these characters aren't dying. They've been dead a long long time. Even Rey and Finn. This is a story that happened a long time ago.

LOL !

True this ^ .




Nothing is as it seems, nothing is just one thing and nothing is ever just over there;

You know What? The Reset Button Awakens was so jumbled and in media res, Han's death is just about the only thing I remember about it, so it's easy for me to ignore. As far as I'm concerned, Han, Luke and Leia all lived happily ever after after the final shot of Return of the Jedi irised out.

The anthology films are a different story, however. Rogue One actually served to enhance the original trilogy for once. They have potential.


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