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But why is mcu ashamed of comics civil war wasnt like the comics
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Cause the comic storyline stunk.
If you read it you'd know this.
If you read it you'd know this.
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Sorry there very much ashamed
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How? If the original story stunk then they have every right to change it.
And no, you can't say "cause comics civil war did this".
And no, you can't say "cause comics civil war did this".
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Iron man 3 civil war both arent like the comics sorry they are so ashamed
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They are, though.
Moreso than Nolan.
Moreso than Nolan.
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Maybe to someone ashamed of comics
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Can take criticism, but when it has misinformation within the first few sentences, how do they expect people to take it seriously? Wouldn't need saving if not for the Avengers? Sure, New York would have faired much better against the Chitauri without the Avengers, who apparently summoned Loki (anyone who watched the first 10 minutes of Avengers knows he used the Tesseract). I agree with Ultron, because again, anyone who watched AoU knows that one was Tony's (a little bit of Bruce's, a little bit of Wanda's) fault.
Lack of female solo movies? I'll agree with that point. Even with Captain Marvel coming up, its taken too long.
Almost every main character has the same personality? That one is just *beep* Is that person actually saying Steve, Tony, Natasha, Bruce, Thor, Peter, Scott, Wanda, Bucky, Nick Fury, all have the same personality?
Bad villains? Sure, it has a lot of them, but to say that every movie has them is false. Loki, Winter Soldier, Zemo, Pierce, are at the very least decent, if not good villains.
A lot of people would be willing to agree with the fallbacks of the MCU, and things it could ammend to make it better, if this list stayed objected, but it reads as a salty fanboy (like the OP is, he rated every MCU movie a 1/10) who can't even stick to the facts.
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Lack of female solo movies? I'll agree with that point. Even with Captain Marvel coming up, its taken too long.
Almost every main character has the same personality? That one is just *beep* Is that person actually saying Steve, Tony, Natasha, Bruce, Thor, Peter, Scott, Wanda, Bucky, Nick Fury, all have the same personality?
Bad villains? Sure, it has a lot of them, but to say that every movie has them is false. Loki, Winter Soldier, Zemo, Pierce, are at the very least decent, if not good villains.
A lot of people would be willing to agree with the fallbacks of the MCU, and things it could ammend to make it better, if this list stayed objected, but it reads as a salty fanboy (like the OP is, he rated every MCU movie a 1/10) who can't even stick to the facts.
"George, you can type this *beep* but you can't say it."
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Criticism is one thing, blatant BS is another. The article falls under the latter category, since it's clear the author has either not bothered watching the MCU movies or not paid attention at all while watching them.
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No it doesn't. It just got you butthurt because all criticism of the MCU makes you butthurt.
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I don't mind criticism, as long as it's properly argued and based on having actually seen and understood the films. This guy says all the origin stories follow the same pattern, then explains said pattern, and it doesn't apply to most of the origin stories. He also complains about "inconsistencies" (Stark's armor in Iron Man 3, Banner's relationship with the Hulk) that are actually explained in the films, which he'd know if he bothered paying attention.
There are plenty of factual errors and basic misunderstandings of the sort in the article, which invalidates the legitimate points he does make.
There are plenty of factual errors and basic misunderstandings of the sort in the article, which invalidates the legitimate points he does make.
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Except that half it was true, and the other half actually is BS.
Ultron was Tony's fault? True.
They need more female solo movies? True.
A lot of bad villains? True.
ALL the villains are bad? False - Loki, Zemo, Winter Soldier
SHIELD summoned Loki? False - Loki used the Tesseract. Hence why people may believe whoever posted that didn't ACTUALLY watch the movie, or they didn't pay attention.
Avengers only cause problems? False. New York was not their fault, and they saved NY.
Almost every main has the same personality? This one has BS written all over it. Again, either they didn't watch or didn't watch properly.
This is why it isn't "butthurt" (and holy *beep* can people stop saying "butthurt"? What a *beep* stupid word) to disagree with some of it, because its littered with fallecies.
"George, you can type this *beep* but you can't say it."
Ultron was Tony's fault? True.
They need more female solo movies? True.
A lot of bad villains? True.
ALL the villains are bad? False - Loki, Zemo, Winter Soldier
SHIELD summoned Loki? False - Loki used the Tesseract. Hence why people may believe whoever posted that didn't ACTUALLY watch the movie, or they didn't pay attention.
Avengers only cause problems? False. New York was not their fault, and they saved NY.
Almost every main has the same personality? This one has BS written all over it. Again, either they didn't watch or didn't watch properly.
This is why it isn't "butthurt" (and holy *beep* can people stop saying "butthurt"? What a *beep* stupid word) to disagree with some of it, because its littered with fallecies.
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Also, they won't kill off the main characters? That's true for every single major franchise
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To some degree (its certainly not popular to do so), but I'm willing to concede this point. QS is the only thing remotely close to a major character death that we've gotten so far, I wanted Rhodey to die in CW, and I'm hoping for some big deaths in Infinity War (yet the one main character I don't want to die is the one I have a feeling WILL die).
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The writers explained the Rhodey thing: if he had died, the conflict would have ended then and there, and the audience would have sided with Team Tony.
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Yeah I know they explained it, but I just kind of wanted someone to die, you know? Anyway, it didn't bother me that much. But if no one dies in IW THEN I'll be annoyed.
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Meh, I'm kinda annoyed by the whole "They need to kill off someone to raise the stakes" complaint. And even if someone were to die, people would go "Who cares, he'll be back in the next one" (people are still saying Quicksilver will be resurrected in Infinity War).
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I think there are bigger ways to raise the stakes, especially in the MCU (I think being trapped in another dimension, plane of existence, time loop, galaxy, without getting back and alone, are all worse than death). But going up against Thanos? Its just realistic (you know, within the movie) that someone will die. Not all of them are invulnerable, or have increased durability. Thanos is much, much stronger than them, or any other enemy they have came up against.
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Max loves the low-stakes MCU where all the heroes are invulnerable.
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No, but you love talking out of your rectum, apparently
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You got triggered HARD! That's because you know what I'm saying is true.
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No, I merely stated a fact. You frequently make inaccurate or downright false statements, and support rubbish like the article AnneHathaway_Fan linked to in the OP.
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Opinions that are different than yours aren't "false statements," you butthurt Marveltard. Man, you just can't let this go, can you? Hurts your butt too much to see people criticizing the MCU.
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We're talking about the article building up complaints on things that are factually wrong. No opinions, no interpretation, just misrepresenting of what actually happens on screen.
If I talked about how the tornado scene in MoS sucks because of the tornado being a result of Clark sneezing and anyone corrected me on it, would they be "butthurt DC *beep*"?
If I talked about how the tornado scene in MoS sucks because of the tornado being a result of Clark sneezing and anyone corrected me on it, would they be "butthurt DC *beep*"?
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Funny you say that, since Marvel Zombies like Max frequently lob BS "facts" about MoS/BvS at DC fans.
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A lot of triggered and butthurt Marvel Zombies here. Can't take ANY criticism of the MCU.
True.
DC fans hear complaints about their movies every day. The MCU gets just a little shade thrown its way and the fanboys break down in tears.
True.
Max loves the low-stakes MCU where all the heroes are invulnerable.
The MCU is definitely low stakes, but not because the so-called "heroes" are invulnerable. The so-called "heroes" are actually weak, but it's low stakes because the villains are so weak.
The Chitauri had no superpowers and were so weak that all it took was 1 nuclear missile from the US military to defeat thousands of Chitauri. Compare that to Doomsday, who was hot with a nuclear missile and still couldn't be stopped. And Ronan the Destroyer was supposed to be a big, bad destroyer of planets, but he turned out to be just another weak MCU villain who was defeated by something as stupid as a Dance-Off.
MCU's so-called "heroes" are weak and could never battle a strong villain so MCU has to make their villains really weak in order to make their so-called "heroes" look strong and "heroic".
Opinions that are different than yours aren't "false statements," you butthurt Marveltard. Man, you just can't let this go, can you? Hurts your butt too much to see people criticizing the MCU.
True.
Marvel Zombies like Max frequently lob BS "facts" about MoS/BvS at DC fans.
True.
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Y'know I'm still waiting to hear from you on how Hayley Atwell and Krysten Ritter are only known for their Marvel work and nothing else and how Gal Gadot is A list.
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I'm not a Marvel "zombie", Dennis. By the way, your promise to stop trolling didn't last long
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I agreed to stop trolling on the premise that you and your butthurt Marvel Zombie brigade would stop as well. You guys didn't, so neither did I.
I stopped for a solid month. You clowns couldn't stop for 5 minutes.
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You support an article that is filled with factual errors. So yes, your stance on the MCU qualifies, at least in part, as false statements. Maybe if you grew up, got a job and stopped trolling you'd realize that
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The MCU has problems. This isn't fake news, Marveltard Max Pedophilo.
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The writers explained the Rhodey thing: if he had died, the conflict would have ended then and there
So Rhodey survived only because it was convenient for the plot, which is full of plotholes anyway.
the audience would have sided with Team Tony.
So rather than let the audience decide, they wanted the audience to side with the tyrant Captain America.
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If Rhodey had died then the audience would've sided with Iron Man then and there, creating no option to decide on who root for because of the fact that Team Cap's actions cost the life of fellow Avenger.
And no, they didn't want all members of the audience to be totally in favor of Team Cap, they wanted the audience to decide on their own, and without relying on cheap gimmicks to "darken" things up, like killing off a character, to illustrate how bad things were gettingOr a "Martha" type of situation which isn't really established too well.
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And no, they didn't want all members of the audience to be totally in favor of Team Cap, they wanted the audience to decide on their own, and without relying on cheap gimmicks to "darken" things up, like killing off a character, to illustrate how bad things were gettingOr a "Martha" type of situation which isn't really established too well.
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And thats the thing, half of these were actually valid points, but it was riddled with other BS that detracted from anything constructive it had to say. So all of a sudden, it was not constructive criticism, it was bitching, and bitching at things that were false. Obviously people are going to point out the things that aren't true.
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"not killing off its main characters"
lol.
lol.
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In the first movie, SHIELD actually summons Loki to New York
Umm, no. They did not summon Loki he just kinda appeared. Granted, this was not fully explained but SHIELD did definitely NOT summon him.
, while Tony Stark goes right ahead and creates a supervillain in Ultron.
Agreed, and this becomes a HUGE part of his character from that part on. What did you expect, in the comics Ultron was created by Pym so there's no difference really. A hero creates Ultron in both instances, who becomes one of their greatest villains.
Over in the solo movies, Bruce Banner literally gives his own blood to create his arch nemesis
Umm, WHAT? If you are referring to the blood that Blonksy takes from the Doc than you are not paying much attention. Banner sent that in to the Doc, not knowing it would be recreated, in order for his condition to be cured. Blonsky then took the recreated blood by threat of lethal force, which Bruce immediately wanted to destroy when he learned of its existence.
while Iron Mans technology falls repeatedly into the wrong hands.
It was literally ripped out of his chest in the first movie by his backstabbing mentor. In the second nothing was stolen from him, it is simply discovered that the original technology was not solely created by a Stark, but also by a Vanko. And in the third movie the Iron Patriot suit is stolen by supervillains for a very short time.
Thor has even started a war that spans two realms. Good work, Atoners.
Which again, is a large part of his developing character from that point on.
I'm not going to bother correcting the rest that was just one paragraph and it was mostly errors. This means there are three possible conclusions:
1) The author has no actually seen the MCU movies and is relying on wikipedia/the internet for broad strokes.
2) The author has seen the movies, but is not intelligent enough to catch the details.
3) The author is deliberately trying to troll the MCU with an article.
Take your pick.
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I ditched the MCU in 2012. Do they still have it ?
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Yes.
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the truth is too real for the mcu people to admit because they think baby character and infantile joke make up a good movie
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the truth is too real for the mcu people to admit because they think baby character and infantile joke make up a good movie
You've described it perfectly!
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Well at least MCU takes way more creative risks than DCEU or Fox or Sony.
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Sorry but it's the truth.
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Nope. Most formulaic company in the biz.
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Your so-called "most formulaic company in the biz" gave us the most varied catalog of superhero movies, showcasing different superhero characters, being the first franchise to assemble a superhero team-up movie, first ever studio to give us a superhero team vs. superhero team fight, and the first ever company to build a shared universe between their numerous cinematic movies and TV shows.
On the other hand, DC has given us mostly just Batman movies, Fox can't seem to handle anymore than 3 main characters per movie, and Sony just keeps regurgitating Spiderman.
On the other hand, DC has given us mostly just Batman movies, Fox can't seem to handle anymore than 3 main characters per movie, and Sony just keeps regurgitating Spiderman.
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All the characters are quip-machines. All the movies are action-comedies. All the same. Same formula. No risk.
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You can believe that all you want. Bottom line is, the MCU took more risks than DC, Fox and Sony combined. DC would never have the guts to make a movie with a talking racoon and wLking tree in it.
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Financial risks? Sure. Creative risks? Nah. And there is a major difference between those two things.
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You mean, a creative risk like laying down multiple solo films before teaming them up for one big ensemble movie? How bout the creative risk of getting B and C grade comic characters and giving them their own movies? Or maybe the risk of getting a guy who wears wings on his helmet, yellow boots, travels through rainbow bridge, speaks in old english getting him and trying to make him relevant to the modern general crowd?
And on DC's side they keep making Batman movies. You want to convince me Marvel is afraid of taking risks you're going to have to come up with better arguments.
And on DC's side they keep making Batman movies. You want to convince me Marvel is afraid of taking risks you're going to have to come up with better arguments.
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