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Am I the only one that thinks Susan was right?

Curing brain diseases and saving future generations was worth the risk. They should have just built a safer facility.

I've seen this movie a long time ago but I just remembered this questions was bugging me when I saw it.

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Agreed. It really annoys me when they set up the story in a way that completely rules out the possibility of the end justifying the means. Easiely worth the risk, but the only strange thing is that there infact were a risk to it. (Then again, it wouldn't make much of a movie if everything went as planned :) )

But it is a usual tendency in movies like this to make the lowbrow people heroes, and the scientists villains.


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Apparently they wanted to make her more sympathetic, but the test audience weren't having any of it.

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They did do good at keeping makos healthy in confinement. I do think degenerative brain disease destroys a lot more people than their mako mutants could ever do.
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I understand, and could agree if the genia pig had been her. She put a lot people in jeapordy. I think she lost sight of the prize, her intelligence.

she loved poetry and romance, but she hit the glass ceiling at birth

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Why have the facility in the ocean anyway? It wasn't a nature research project it was a shark harvest. They should have had it on shore, kept sharks in big tanks at 1/100000000th the cost.

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yeah, if this had been in marine world, even with all the little kids it would've been safer.

My only explanation is that they were doing illegal research. When I first saw the film I thought it was so they could do it in international waters, but I don't think that's the case.

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I never thought she was that bad.

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Me either, I wish the studio would've kept the original ending where she lived.

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I'm glad to see this thread. I was always on Susan's side but everyone else I watched it with hated her.

It's a sad thing that your adventures have ended here

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I think you guys are missing the point. What she was trying to accomplish was amazing, and ground-breaking.

But she was irresponsible when she broke laws/ethics by genetically tampering with the sharks. It is like playing with fire.

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Like the villain says in Tomorrow Never Dies, the line between genius and insanity is measured only by success.

Had her research produced a cure, she'd have been feted as a hero at every scientific conference in the world, no matter how unethical her methods of genetic tampering. Instead, as you say, she comes across as irresponsible because her work got her colleagues killed.


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Hell is paved with good intentions (Saint Bernard of Clairvaux).
As my parochial school nun teachers told me when explaining the quote above: a well intentioned fool is every bit as dangerous as an evildoer because his good intentions blind him to the terrible consequences of his actions.

God is subtle, but He is not malicious. (Albert Einstein)

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I'm pretty sure that for 99 percent of people (including your parochial school nun teachers), if their loved one was suffering from Alzheimer's and a cure developed through unethical testing was suddenly presented, they're not going to refuse it or condemn it because of the nature of the testing.

(Maybe your nuns and Albert Einstein should explain why God allows Alzheimer's to exist in the first place.)

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i thought the quote was

"The Road to Hell is paved with good intentions".

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HELL IS FULL OF GOOD WISHES AND DESIRES
St Bernard de Clairvaux
After St Bernard's time, the wording was altered by such people as Samuel Johnson.
Hell itself, not just the road to it, being paved with good intentions definitely has more bite to it. Think of Nicholas II of Russia, who had the perfectly worthy intention of passing on to his son a working effective imperial govt; instead all he did was to destroy it utterly.

God is subtle, but He is not malicious. (Albert Einstein)

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The sharks getting smarter was a hard thing to anticipate, & foresee, therefore less probable than the more likelihood of it just doing nothing. I hated the part where the serum was lost, because it asked us to believe it was unconscionable for Suzane's research to succeed, or for any good to come of it.
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Susan morally was doing very bad things

genetically tampering with animals is cruel and unacceptable in many ways
for one it's rather twisted to mutate a shark, or any animal for that matter, to try and create some kind of cure. it's allowed on some animals today but laws are getting stricter to force humane conditions

it was obvious that the experiments and testing was likely breaking many laws

while there was a good goal, there was a lot of naive experimenting done that could potentially endanger many many people (and did)

things should be left relatively speaking in their natural state. surely the message the film portrays (although trust me I know this is a popcorn action film where they don't care) is that when you alter the basic nature of things bad things can happen

she was inconsiderate to the people around her and very short minded as far as thinking ahead.
if the mutated sharks were let loose, with their brain and violent capabilities they could have effected an entire ecosystem. all ecosystems in our planet our dependent on one another and this could have had massive effects

Susan was wrong for many reasons for these experiements
she is so focused on creating a cure that she does not stop to think about the other problems she may create


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I totally agree on the "sharks escaping would be a disaster" thing that's why I said they should have build a safer facility but as for the leaving things in their natural state you couldn't be more wrong. Humans didn't achieve all we have today by leaving things in their natural state. We would still be dying of the simple flu today is we followed that rule.

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I agree.
Ethically she was wrong, but she was right morally. The stuff she was doing didn't seem that invasive, especially compared to what's already going on in the world and considered ethical, and especially considering the benefits. The same people who condemn her probably praise a lawyer who does something ethically wrong to get a "bad guy" put in prison.
People don't like gray areas; they just want to see someone as good or evil, but it's never that simple.

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The same people who condemn her probably praise a lawyer who does something ethically wrong to get a "bad guy" put in prison.



Umm that's not comparable.















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Ummm it's comparing ethics and morals.

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With a name like The_Diva101 I'm honestly not surprised you clearly have no idea what you're talking about because they actually are very comparable.

Say a cop arrests someone who he knows is a serial killer or child molester, he knows he's completely guilty but can't provide enough evidence to prove it so he goes free, the cop plants false evidence in the guys house like a bloody knife with his fingerprints or a kids shirt with blood on it or a bunch of printed out pictures of child pornography, house gets searched, evidence found, guy gets locked up.

Morally he did the right thing because the guy was guilty, ethically he did the wrong thing because he manipulated things to turn out the way they did.

Morally, Susan was doing the right thing trying to find a cure for an uncurable brain disease and doing whatever was necessary to get it.

Ethically, Susan was doing the wrong thing because she was manipulating the genetics of not just one, but three living creatures.

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Now you have to resort to middle school insults? lol pathetic.

















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Speaking of middle school, did you get held back? Because all the middle schoolers I know are actually capable of telling the difference between an insult and something that's not an insult. Pointing out the fact that someone has little to no idea what they're talking about is not an insult.

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I didn't see this before, but thanks for posting this. You explained it way better than I had the patience to, and I'm glad someone else understands what I was talking about.

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Do you view animal abusers as evil?

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Irrelevant.

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No it isn't, if you don't view badness as back and white then shouldn't that apply to everyone? I've seen quite a lot of people excuse something bad if it harms people but not animals, so I'm just asking. Otherwise it seems hypocritical.

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Yes, it is, dude. There is no benefit to animal abuse, so your question is irrelevant and it shouldn't even have to be explained.

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I think she means it's not right to just view people as bad regardless of what they do.

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Then you both didn't understand the original comment.

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I did, I was just talking about Yvonne's comments.

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Then why are we even having this conversation?

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People act like she was a monster but she wasn't.
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