Religion, Faith, and Spirituality : Kinda make you go hmmmm.

Kinda make you go hmmmm.










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Um..yeah, that one's a thinker, all right.


EDIT I just posted it on Facebook. Maybe someone there can offer a "logical" explanation.






"I hear no voice. The dead cannot speak."

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Watch out my man, they're tapping your lines.


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Okay..


Easiest answer:

The crew has at least two NFL fans.. one being a Atlanta fan, the other being a New England fan.. an they had brought their jerseys.




Other answer:


They pack a case of jerseys on lift off containing 1 of each team Technically 2.. as they got the "Home/Away" colors correct as well..




The answer your looking for:

The sht is fake.

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Easiest answer:

The crew has at least two NFL fans.. one being a Atlanta fan, the other being a New England fan.. an they had brought their jerseys.


That's the answer for simpletons, of which there are many.



Other answer: They pack a case of jerseys on lift off containing 1 of each team Technically 2.. as they got the "Home/Away" colors correct as well..


That's the NASA damage control answer which they came out with after people began talking about it, and if so the question arises as to how much that cost us.but who cares? Didn't they look cute floating in the space station wearing their NFL jerseys over their NASA flight suits. Awwwwwwwwwww.



The answer your looking for:

The sht is fake.


And that's the most likely answer. They tape this on earth (very cheaply) and put it on TV for the Herd. And the money goes into something else, perhaps a real space program which is top secret. You can add to that the possibility that professional football is rigged like professional wrestling..but's that's perhaps a story for another day.

Thanks again to Lenny for posting this. So far no one on Facebook wants to comment.





"I hear no voice. The dead cannot speak."

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That's the NASA damage control answer which they came out with after people began talking about it,

Evidence? The article I posted is from the day after they were pictured in the jerseys. There is even a video in there showing all the shirts. Does the ISS exist ErJen? And don't say "still collating", give a straight answer.

"Whether homosexuality causes less harm (than slavery) is debatable" - Hada

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Does the ISS exist ErJen? And don't say "still collating", give a straight answer.


The ISS officially exists.







"I hear no voice. The dead cannot speak."

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"Whether homosexuality causes less harm (than slavery) is debatable" - Hada

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You wanted a straight answer. I gave you one.

Strangely, I'm going to miss Hitler (a little) after he's gone. He added some reasonably good buffoonery to this board.






"I hear no voice. The dead cannot speak."

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I'll miss you too ErJen.

"Whether homosexuality causes less harm (than slavery) is debatable" - Hada

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Oh my god, it's all a massive conspiracy, and the ISS doesn't even exist! Thank goodness for YouTube videos setting us straight!

Meanwhile, in non-conspiracy wingnut land:

http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-020417a-super-bowl-jerseys-space.html

"Whether homosexuality causes less harm (than slavery) is debatable" - Hada

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Not only are all "national" or "major" sports leagues in the US effectively monopolies, they are rigged. They're legally "entertainment" businesses, and so are not legally bound by any guarantees of fair play. This means the latter only has to be made plausible to the audience (which they failed miserably at in the obviously rigged Super Bowl this year) so they continue to buy merchandise and tickets. I'll quote what one reddit user stated:


Of course it's fixed. Vegas makes $BILLIONS on these games. Any dummy that thinks the NFL is not fixed is retarded. I stopped watching years ago. Refs can call holding on virtually any play to kill a drive. It's WHEN they make a holding call or not that matters. It's rigged. The NFL shares 70 to 75 percent of its $10+ billion-a-year income including television/broadcast/internet rights and licensing. Ticket sales are split 66 percent for the home team and the other 34 percent shared equally among all franchises. Only luxury boxes sales (which explains the "need" for new stadiums), local advertising & sponsorships, and official pro shop sales are not shared. No other league shares as much of its income as the NFL. It's one big business folks and they are all in on the take. Most people assume the NFL is a "sport," however, they are in fact a business. Their business is *entertainment." The NFL has actually argued this fact before the Supreme Court as recently as 2010. Being "entertainment," the leagues are legally entitled to do what is needed to entertain their audience, such as the creation and promotion of certain "storylines." Despite arguments to the contrary, this makes the NFL on par with Roller Derby and Professional Wrestling. Even if somebody has proof of the game being "fixed" you can't sue the NFL because it's not an actual "sport" as we are to believe. They have the LEGAL right to fix games in the name of entertainment.



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Not only are all "national" or "major" sports leagues in the US effectively monopolies, they are rigged.
Wouldn't have pegged you for a conspiracy theorist. Oh well.


I'll quote what one reddit user stated:
Next up you'll be studying at Erjen's Institute of Higher YouTube Learning.

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Why do you care? Watch the rigged game, eat your soylent green, and enjoy your life.






"I hear no voice. The dead cannot speak."

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Why do you care?
Why do you?

Rabbit: It's rare that stupid doesn't bring douchedom with it.

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Why do you?


I care very much about people who have human souls, and I'm trying to snap them out of their brainwashed state.






"I hear no voice. The dead cannot speak."

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Ditto.

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It has nothing to do with conspiracy since to me it is obvious. I'm not asking anyone else to believe it. This year made it even more so with two 3-1 series and a 25 pt deficit "coincidentally" overcome in three of the professional sports leagues. These games are loaded with billions of dollars changing hands via gambling and commercial sales. Many of the owners of these sports team have gambling ties. Match fixing occurs all over the world and it is only more sophisticated in more advanced countries. These leagues are clearly primarily "entertainment" and all of their legal paper work binds them only to such. Also, where information comes from is mostly irrelevant to the validity of its content.



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This year made it even more so with two 3-1 series and a 25 pt deficit "coincidentally" overcome in three of the professional sports leagues.
And to argue it's not a coincidence you'd have to explain why it's happened so rarely before. Sports gambling is not a new thing, and there are tons of 3-1 series and 25-point deficit games that end just as you'd expect they would. It's not as if there haven't been plenty of painfully dull championship games and series.


Match fixing occurs all over the world and it is only more sophisticated in more advanced countries. These leagues are clearly primarily "entertainment" and all of their legal paper work binds them only to such.
In the vast majority of cases these fixings are "outed" eventually either by people involved or those investigating it. Any hard evidence of fixing in the major sports would make the career of any reporter that could uncover it or anyone previously involved that chose to spill the beans. The problem with "fixing" conspiracies is that it would take cover-ups of an enormous and unwieldy degree to pull off and there's really no incentive to do so. The NFL even lost viewership this year because most of the prime time games were duds so you think the NFL intentionally made the games dull to lose viewership and lower the price of advertisements next year?


Also, where information comes from is mostly irrelevant to the validity of its content.
There is no validity to any of the "fixing" arguments. It's all up the level of YouTube conspiracy nutjobs and riddled with fallacies like Confirmation Bias. Once they provide some hard evidence of this fixing in the form of agreements made by/between owners, GMs, coaches, players, etc., then they'll have something.

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And to argue it's not a coincidence you'd have to explain why it's happened so rarely before.

To argue it's not a coincidence you'd have to prove a conspiracy across three major sports professional organizations, and conspiracies are by their very nature, extremely difficult to prove. Rarity doesn't prove anything, but highly unlikely events occurring in such a "serendipitous" manner is more evidence for it being planned than it being mere coincidence due due to the very concept of probability.

In the vast majority of cases these fixings are "outed" eventually either by people involved or those investigating it.

How do you know in the "vast majority" they are "outed"? To even make such a claim you'd have to know how many are actually fixed and how many are outed. The mere attempt for one person to even engage in such a conspiracy quest against such monopolized mega billion dollar organizations is a death warrant for their career due to ostracization which alone serves as a sufficient deterrent, and possibly quite literally. Such entities certainly would have the enormous power and unwieldy degree to pull it off. If the NFL lost viewership this year, they still didn't lose any money since these TV and other contracts are negotiated well prior. Ratings could only impact their negotiations in the future. Also, exceptional monopolies with huge fan bases like these sports leagues don't really "lose" money. They simply don't make as much money as they could. And no one ever implied that all of these games are rigged, or that everyone, or even a major portion is involved. They only implied that they are manipulated enough to facilitate certain outcomes for entertainment purposes that taint the integrity of the product.

There is no validity to any of the "fixing" arguments. It's all up the level of YouTube conspiracy nutjobs and riddled with fallacies like Confirmation Bias.

No one is going to prove a conspiracy for reasons already mentioned.



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To argue it's not a coincidence you'd have to prove a conspiracy across three major sports professional organizations, and conspiracies are by their very nature, extremely difficult to prove. Rarity doesn't prove anything
I said nothing about "prove" I said "argue." For an event to be evidence of something you have to consider all the relevant similar events and their outcomes. So if "several 3-1/25-point deficits overcome" is evidence for fixing, then by the same logic all of the "3-1/25-point deficits NOT overcome" would be evidence of no fixing. In non-fixed sporting leagues you'd expect to see both, but the former with much more frequency; this is precisely what we DO see. "Rarity" is evidence that events that we'd expect to be rare are occurring at the frequency they should occur at. Your argument would be stronger if 3-1 deficits were overcome much more than, say, 12.5% of time (the frequency we'd expect assuming the teams are 50/50), and they don't. With a quick google I found these stats: MLB = 5/34 (14.7%), NBA 9/200 (4.5%), NHL = 20/229 (8.7%). The NBA being far less than MLB and NHL even makes sense because variance is much smaller in any game where there's more scoring opportunities. So far from looking "fixed," to make for "better entertainment," this looks suspiciously like the major sports are right in line with expected "fair" probabilities.

How are conspiracies difficult to prove? In the case of sports fixing you'd have to have massive amounts of communication and coordination among a large number of people. All it would take would be the uncovering of such documents that relates the "fixing" to all the relevant parties involved. The very absence of evidence is (in this case) strong evidence of absence.


highly unlikely events occurring in such a "serendipitous" manner is more evidence for it being planned than it being mere coincidence due due to the very concept of probability.
This isn't how probability works as it relates to evidence of causality. Rare and serendipitous events occur every moment at every casino on Earth. Try again.


How do you know in the "vast majority" they are "outed"?
Fair point there, but the fact is that many such "fixes" have been outed before, and it was hardly difficult to do so. Again, the massive amount of communication and coordination requires is going to leave a trail, and even without a trail any "fix" is relying on everyone involved to keep quiet, which is unlikely to happen the more people that are involved.


The mere attempt for one person to even engage in such a conspiracy quest against such monopolized mega billion dollar organizations is a death warrant for their career due to ostracization which alone serves as a sufficient deterrent, and possibly quite literally.
Nonsense. Any reporter that could reveal such a thing would have their career MADE, not ostracized. You don't seem to understand how sports reporting works. Further, any ex player/coach/GM/owner that decided to spill the beans would be up for major deals from interviews to books to tours. Jose Conseco's book on steroids in baseball made him millions. Sure, it made him a pariah among ex-players, but who cares? They weren't paying his checks.


Such entities certainly would have the enormous power and unwieldy degree to pull it off.
It has nothing to do with "enormous power," it has to do with the ability to maintain secrecy from the top to the bottom, which has little to do with power. You don't get more powerful than the US Government, yet Nixon got busted for Watergate.


If the NFL lost viewership this year, they still didn't lose any money since these TV and other contracts are negotiated well prior. Ratings could only impact their negotiations in the future.
No sh!t, Sherlock. So if it's "fixed" then why would they have made most of the prime time games bad so as to lose viewership and compromise future negotiations?


And no one ever implied that all of these games are rigged, or that everyone, or even a major portion is involved. They only implied that they are manipulated enough to facilitate certain outcomes for entertainment purposes that taint the integrity of the product.
And how do you "manipulate them enough to facilitate certain outcomes" without the involvement of everyone?


No one is going to prove a conspiracy for reasons already mentioned.
You gave no reasons, you gave nonsense rationalizations.

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I said nothing about "prove" I said "argue."

No one was proving/arguing anything. I even said it in my post.


So if "several 3-1/25-point deficits overcome" is evidence for fixing, then by the same logic all of the "3-1/25-point deficits NOT overcome" would be evidence of no fixing.

Coincidences don't prove anything as far as conspiracies are concerned. I said extremely rare events occurring make it more likely that some form of fixing took place to facilitate them due to the nature of their probability. And the example given didn't just point out "several 3-1/25 point deficits overcome" across many years independently within each sports league. It pointed out the even greater rarity of such rare events that independently occur in each of the sports leagues occurring in the same sports year. What do you think the probability of the said event happening would be prior to it occurring based on the statistical data up to that point? Also, it's not just a matter of statistics since they never tell the whole story. It's actually looking contextually at the teams playing and the games themselves.


How are conspiracies difficult to prove? In the case of sports fixing you'd have to have massive amounts of communication and coordination among a large number of people. All it would take would be the uncovering of such documents that relates the "fixing" to all the relevant parties involved. The very absence of evidence is (in this case) strong evidence of absence.

Why do you need "massive amounts of communication and coordination"? There aren't more than seven officials on the field in football. Why would you think they would document such activities and simply not use word of mouth? This isn't the government. And even the government engages in secrecy and has cover ups. When the NFL found the evidence of cheating by one of their teams, they simply destroyed it. They didn't allow any independent investigation into said evidence.

This isn't how probability works as it relates to evidence of causality. Rare and serendipitous events occur every moment at every casino on Earth. Try again.


So what? Each one of these rare and serendipitous events occur far more frequently (on orders of magnitudes) and have their own unique probabilities. Regardless, everyone knows casinos are rigged for the house.

Nonsense. Any reporter that could reveal such a thing would have their career MADE, not ostracized.

They would be ostracized if they ever revealed that they were engaging in such an attempt to prove it. Who said they would be ostracized after they could prove such a thing? I'm sure they still would be for just revealing it. They would need access to internal sources, gather evidence, would have to maintain secrecy, make a case, and hope no one who has something significant to lose would take it out on them. This would take an enormous effort on their part and possibly sacrifices of personal and family safety that may never be worth it.

It has nothing to do with "enormous power," it has to do with the ability to maintain secrecy from the top to the bottom, which has little to do with power.

Ummenormous power is what is used to enforce secrecy, so yes it does have to do with it. You're the one who brought up the notion of power. Governments constantly engage in secret activities that the public is not aware until decades later, sometimes never.

You don't get more powerful than the US Government, yet Nixon got busted for Watergate.

Big deal. One time in history out of all the times cover ups have occurred. Also, Nixon is one man. Anyone who thinks the president is the most powerful and untouchable man in the country is deluding themselves.

No sh!t, Sherlock. So if it's "fixed" then why would they have made most of the prime time games bad so as to lose viewership and compromise future negotiations?

Who said they made them bad? Who says they lost viewership because of the outcome of games? Perhaps they lost it to bad officiating, or to a terrible product being put on the field. How other games play out have nothing to do with particular games being questioned as to their legitimacy.

And how do you "manipulate them enough to facilitate certain outcomes" without the involvement of everyone?

Why do you need the involvement of everyone? Does a person at lower levels of an organization need to know the purpose of everything that occurs at higher levels to engage in activities proscribed by them? Officials can control games and they often do.

You gave no reasons, you gave nonsense rationalizations.

So, pray tell. How would you prove in an internet post that a conspiracy occurred?

I don't even know WTF you're arguing with me. I think these sports leagues are rigged. I didn't say all games were rigged. I think they are entertainment first, fair play next.



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No one was proving/arguing anything.
So you're not arguing that the games are fixed? What, pray tell, are you doing then?


I said extremely rare events occurring make it more likely that some form of fixing took place to facilitate them due to the nature of their probability.
No. They. Don't. This isn't how probability works. The odds against being dealt a royal flush are far, far, far smaller than a 3-1 series comeback, yet do you think ever royal flush dealt means the game is "fixed?"


And the example given didn't just point out "several 3-1/25 point deficits overcome" across many years independently within each sports league. It pointed out the even greater rarity of such rare events that independently occur in each of the sports leagues occurring in the same sports year.
Of course compound probabilities make the odds of it happening smaller, but you can literally do this with anything and come up with incredibly small probabilities. Once something's happened, the probability of it happening is 1: it doesn't matter what the probability was before hand unless you think you can make some new prediction with the information. I've seen (and made) flopped royal flushes before: probability of that happening is about 1 in 650,000. Even if you combine all the 3-1 and 25-point comebacks last year it's not that unlikely: about 1 in 38,000 by my calculations. Unlikely? Sure, but hardly amazingly so. You can go to Vegas and see smaller probabilities happen every day. I don't know why you think them all happening in the same year is MORE evidence of a fix; hell, if the people fixing them had any sense at all they wouldn't cram three all-time-amazing comebacks into one year!


It's actually looking contextually at the teams playing and the games themselves.
And? So how do you think the "context" is evidence of any fixing?


Why do you need "massive amounts of communication and coordination"? There aren't more than seven officials on the field in football.
The officials are hardly the only or even the most major arbiters of game outcomes. They played very little role in the Patriots/Falcons game. At most they made one crucial call (the holding) that knocked Atlanta out of field goal range, but that hold was not only blatant, Atlanta put themselves in that bad situation to begin with. So the only way THAT comeback would've been fixed would've been for the coaches and players to also have been in on it. The NBA Finals was a bit different with Draymond's suspension playing a big role, but even then he had clearly violated the rules multiple times so unless HE was in on it it's hard to say that decision cost the Warriors the series.

Even if it is just refs you're still banking on them staying quiet, and this seems even less likely than with players because a ref that "outted" any fixing scandle would stand to make more by doing that than by refereeing. Hell, there was even the controversy years ago about the NFL refs not getting paid enough, the league refusing to meet their demands, and how replacement refs were brought in for several weeks. So the refs were so disgruntled they sat out, yet they're getting told to fix the games on their measly salary?


When the NFL found the evidence of cheating by one of their teams, they simply destroyed it. They didn't allow any independent investigation into said evidence.
There were two cheating scandals that I know about: Spygate and Deflategate, both of which WERE heavily investigated, were major news story, and cost The Patriots money and suspensions. So unless you have something else in mind


Regardless, everyone knows casinos are rigged for the house.
Yes, but they're not hiding this fact like you claim the NFL is doing. Everyone is free to figure out the odds of any Casino game. The point is that besides this "honest rigging," the games aren't rigged for any given player, yet extremely unlikely events occur every day. See my royal flush example.


They would be ostracized if they ever revealed that they were engaging in such an attempt to prove it. Who said they would be ostracized after they could prove such a thing?
Why? If they had any evidence of said fixing they'd have no need to be ostracized. Their problem (like yours) is the complete lack of evidence. What you've offered so far has only displayed a gross ignorance of how probabilistic evidence works (and doesn't work).


They would need access to internal sources, gather evidence, would have to maintain secrecy, make a case, and hope no one who has something significant to lose would take it out on them. This would take an enormous effort on their part and possibly sacrifices of personal and family safety that may never be worth it.
All reporters have internal sources in every team in the league (assuming they cover the entire league). That they all have such sources yet none has ever received any evidence of fixing is, again, more absence of evidence being strong evidence of absence. I don't know what the "maintain secrecy, make a case, etc." has to do with it; it's not like they're detectives going undercover with drug lords. Either their sources would have access to such evidence or not. What secrecy? Tap a phone or copy a document. Boom. Done.


Ummenormous power is what is used to enforce secrecy,
The only way "enormous power" matters is if they're paying people off (and again there would be a money trail) or if they're threatening people, in which case sources could remain anonymous. People have ratted on mobsters before, you know. Far more dangerous than the NFL.


Big deal. One time in history out of all the times cover ups have occurred.
It's happened more than once. Just off the top of my head: Watergate, Iran-Contra, My Lai, and the Catholic Sex Abuse cases if we want to throw that one in there. So we have multiple government cover-ups revealed, one from the Catholic Church, and all these years with nothing in any of the major sports?


Who said they made them bad? Who says they lost viewership because of the outcome of games?
Not the outcomes but the games themselves that weren't close. If it was fixed, why not just replicate what they'd done the previous years where there was plenty of good, close prime time games?


Why do you need the involvement of everyone?
By "everyone" I mean the coaches and players, because they have, BY FAR, the biggest influence on the outcomes of games including how close they are before those outcomes. Ref influence may be in the 10-15% range, but no more than that. So to "fix" games you'd have to have the coaches and players involved, not just the refs.


How would you prove in an internet post that a conspiracy occurred?
Offer hard evidence of said conspiracy. Use whatever data you've collected to make hard predictions about next year's games. If they're being "fixed" then they should be predictable.


I don't even know WTF you're arguing with me.
I started with just saying "I never pegged you for a conspiracy theorist," and you're the one that responded by posting your "evidence" for said conspiracy. Not my fault your evidence was bogus.

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Why do you always write encyclopedic length essays that are at least three times the length of the posts you respond to? Do you even have a job?

What part of the statements in my second post don't you get?

It has nothing to do with conspiracy since to me it is obvious. I'm not asking anyone else to believe it.

This should tell you right way that I had no intentions of putting forth some defensible argument to prove a conspiracy. To even expect that someone could provide credible, detailed, arguable evidence of such a conspiracy of game fixing at the professional levels from an off the cuff post in the internet forum is simply your ridiculous assumption projected onto me in an attempt to create an argument that was never there. Not everything posted on an internet forum is an argument. I've watched enough of sports for over the past twenty years to come to the conclusion that particular games are manipulated for entertainment purposes instead of fair play, even if all the evidence I have is my own perception and a gut instinct. It is only this year that I got fed up with them. I am not required to prove it to anyone to hold such a belief. I am only required to prove it to someone to convince them of such a belief.

Also, successful outcomes of improbable results sets in the games that are prevalent in casinos are a false equivalence to the outcome of professional games due to the sheer number of how many games are played in former as compared to the latter. Of course there are going to be more successful hits of low probability outcomes if the games are played more often. Thousands of people are playing thousands of games in thousands of casinos across the US alone every hour of every single day of the year.

I started with just saying "I never pegged you for a conspiracy theorist," and you're the one that responded by posting your "evidence" for said conspiracy. Not my fault your evidence was bogus.

Yes, that's all you did, because calling someone a conspiracy theorist is an appellation of praise and not a pejorative remark.

I responded by just reiterating what was effectively stated in the reddit quote. The only two things I mentioned on top of it was the fact that many owners have gambling ties, and that it is hard for me to believe the all in one year occurrence of the said improbable events: The Chicago Cubs winning the World Series coming back from down 3-1 to for the first time in over a hundred years, Lebron James' Cavaliers coming back from down 3-1 to beat the best team in the league with the best record ever in the league with the best two shooters in the league at home holding the entire team to only 13 points in the 4th quarter, and a Tom Brady led Patriots coming back from 25 points down in a quarter-and-a-half to score 34 straight points to win his 5th Super Bowl.

Excuse me for believing that these are nothing more than convenient true Hollywood stories.



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Not that it's any of your business, but I took off today. I usually either respond to posts in bits and pieces in between working, or after work.


What part of the statements in my second post don't you get?
And what part about me responding to your proffered "evidence" don't you get? If you had just left it at that statement I probably wouldn't have responded at all.


To even expect that someone could provide credible, detailed, arguable evidence of such a conspiracy
Oh, don't get me wrong, I knew you didn't have any credible, detailed, or arguable evidence; that's why I was so surprised that you'd believe in such convoluted conspiracies despite acknowledging the lack of evidence.


even if all the evidence I have is my own perception and a gut instinct.
Which isn't evidence either. You think human perception and gut instinct is infallible?


Also, successful outcomes of improbable results sets in the games that are prevalent in casinos are a false equivalence to the outcome of professional games due to the sheer number of how many games are played in former as compared to the latter.
The only thing that lowering the number of games does is make such unlikely events less perceptibly frequent, they don't change the probability of them occurring; and the stats that I posted above about such comebacks prove they happen about as often as the probabilities say they should. That three happened to occur the same year means diddly squat, and this is why you can't infer anything meaningful from a sample size of 3; you have to look at the entire history of such comebacks, and doing so nullifies the argument. Using those 3 samples and ignoring the rest is what's known as cherry picking.

You'd benefit tremendously from a course in statistics and probability. In the meantime, this would be a good starter: https://www.amazon.com/Improbability-Principle-Coincidences-Miracles-Events/dp/0374535000/


Yes, that's all you did, because calling someone a conspiracy theorist is an appellation of praise and not a pejorative remark.
You believe in a conspiracy. You said it yourself. So what else do you want me to call you?

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Wouldn't have pegged you for a conspiracy theorist. Oh well.


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