Religion, Faith, and Spirituality : The Bad Samaritan
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How he was not charged I do not know. Even more, Berkely could remove him even without the criminal charge. He certainly was indifferent to the crime.
Still, don't family members do stuff like this all the time?
It seems like I get pushback all the time when I state that I would turn my kids in if they committed a crime.
If I were you, I'd wanna be me too.
Still, don't family members do stuff like this all the time?
It seems like I get pushback all the time when I state that I would turn my kids in if they committed a crime.
If I were you, I'd wanna be me too.
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I don;t necessarily think he's a sociopath. A ton of people are concerned only for themselves, but I do question what he did was legal despite what the people in the video states.
He was an accomplice the moment he saw the girl being assaulted by his best friend. This was not a Samaritan situation because it wasn't between strangers. He knew the assailant and was clearly OK with the actions.
That's what bugs me about the situation.
If I were you, I'd wanna be me too.
He was an accomplice the moment he saw the girl being assaulted by his best friend. This was not a Samaritan situation because it wasn't between strangers. He knew the assailant and was clearly OK with the actions.
That's what bugs me about the situation.
If I were you, I'd wanna be me too.
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He knew the assailant and was clearly OK with the actions.
I think that's why people think he was a sociopath. He knew his best friend just raped and killed a 7 y/o and had no empathy for the victim.
This was not a Samaritan situation because it wasn't between strangers.
He was a stranger to the girl.
After I saw this on 60 minutes, I wondered why the girl's father was taking her to a casino at 3 am.
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The love of stranger would not normally trump the love of family or friend. That was the underlying circumstance. He was a party to the crime specifically because he knew the assailant and helped him get away with it when he walked out of the bathroom after the assault began.
He was a stranger to the girl.
If he were a complete stranger walking into the bathroom and seeing the scenario, I may see things a bit more like the DA, but not when his friend is doing it and he continues his night with the friends after learning the kid was murdered.
The story of the Good Samaritan was not based on the same situation. The Samaritan did not have the opportunity to stop the crime. It's a one on one scenario of what to do after the event happened.
As an aside, the Dad is a horrible person too.
If I were you, I'd wanna be me too.
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I see your point, but he was called a Bad Samaritan because he could have come to someone's assistance when they needed it.
I do agree with your point he should have been charged as an accessory during and after the fact because:
- He did nothing to stop the situation while it was happening.
- He helped him to cross state lines after the fact.
- He failed to go to the police to inform them of the crime.
I do agree with your point he should have been charged as an accessory during and after the fact because:
- He did nothing to stop the situation while it was happening.
- He helped him to cross state lines after the fact.
- He failed to go to the police to inform them of the crime.
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And I agree with this, it's just that when family or friends are involved, I'm not thinking it's sociopathic in nature even though I do think it's criminal behaviour.
I see your point, but he was called a Bad Samaritan because he could have come to someone's assistance when they needed it.
If I were you, I'd wanna be me too.
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What a sick puppy! "I couldn't do anything."
UC Berkeley teaches we're all animals, anyways. Might as well act like it, too.
He heard his friend say, "I'll kill you," but walks away and does nothing?! Then says, "I didn't think he was going to kill her!" (No, just rape her!)
This System has got to go! No 'bandaid' is gonna' work.the whole of it is gangrenous, and has to be chopped off!
From the murderer, Strohmeyer:
""I am not a monster, a pedophile, a delinquent, a sociopath. I was not a predator waiting to snatch this child from her family. I am not that different from other people's sons or brothers or nephews or cousins. What happened to me could happen to other kids."
http://www.reviewjournal.com/john-l-smith/decade-later-callousness-what-killer-did-7-year-old-hasnt-faded
That's been twenty years ago! I'd never heard of it.
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UC Berkeley teaches we're all animals, anyways. Might as well act like it, too.
He heard his friend say, "I'll kill you," but walks away and does nothing?! Then says, "I didn't think he was going to kill her!" (No, just rape her!)
This System has got to go! No 'bandaid' is gonna' work.the whole of it is gangrenous, and has to be chopped off!
From the murderer, Strohmeyer:
""I am not a monster, a pedophile, a delinquent, a sociopath. I was not a predator waiting to snatch this child from her family. I am not that different from other people's sons or brothers or nephews or cousins. What happened to me could happen to other kids."
http://www.reviewjournal.com/john-l-smith/decade-later-callousness-what-killer-did-7-year-old-hasnt-faded
That's been twenty years ago! I'd never heard of it.
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Then you dispute the assertion (taught not only at UC Berkeley, but at every college and public school) that man is an animal, specifically a mammal?
UC Berkeley teaches we're all animals, anyways.
Others might be able to see something you couldn't: that Cash's attitude resembles, in microcosm, your own (that is, the Watchtower's) view of the harm that others do.
What a sick puppy! "I couldn't do anything."
In the past, you have said that it's wrong to place any blame on Jehovah for doing nothing to stop Satan from perpetrating evil. As the WT says, "It is Satannot Godwho causes people to suffer." So according to you it's wrong to point any fingers at God.
You're so quick to condemn Cash for standing by that you fail to see that you are demanding more of him than you do of your own god. You assign Cash blame for doing the very same thing for which you hold your own god blameless.
You (the WT) decry the badness in this world, but believe in doing nothing to try to lessen it and just wait for God to finally step in to do something. So, don't criticize Cash for being a living example of such a philosophy in action.
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Yep, this world's got to go! It needs amputation surgery.
""There's rarely anything as sad as being willfully ignorant." Anonymous
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""There's rarely anything as sad as being willfully ignorant." Anonymous
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So, while I respond directly to what you say, you can make no answer to my comments. That's typical with you.
But (since it's typical with me) I will still answer what you say.
Amputation is a last resort for a doctor who tries other measures first, like antibiotics, to save the limb. Any doctor who resorts to amputation before taking other available measures would be grossly incompetent.
And, according to the WT, your Jehovah will depose all the world's governments and resurrect the billions of average people who have already died throughout the centuries. He is going to have those resurrected people see for themselves a new world, a "paradise in progress", and give them the choice to cooperate and join in or go back to death.
But (according to the WT) God won't try the same treatment on the billions of average adults and children now living by letting them also see for themselves and make their choice. Instead he will jump right to the last resort and "amputate" them from this world into eternal destruction. For some strange reason, your god can't establish his rule on earth unless it also includes the permanent deaths of billions of average people and their kids.
In the Watchtower, God is an incompetent doctor who will resort to amputation when less radical means are available to him.
As for your quotation.
But (since it's typical with me) I will still answer what you say.
Just like Watchtower analogies, yours is also flawed and misleading.
Yep, this world's got to go! It needs amputation surgery.
Amputation is a last resort for a doctor who tries other measures first, like antibiotics, to save the limb. Any doctor who resorts to amputation before taking other available measures would be grossly incompetent.
And, according to the WT, your Jehovah will depose all the world's governments and resurrect the billions of average people who have already died throughout the centuries. He is going to have those resurrected people see for themselves a new world, a "paradise in progress", and give them the choice to cooperate and join in or go back to death.
But (according to the WT) God won't try the same treatment on the billions of average adults and children now living by letting them also see for themselves and make their choice. Instead he will jump right to the last resort and "amputate" them from this world into eternal destruction. For some strange reason, your god can't establish his rule on earth unless it also includes the permanent deaths of billions of average people and their kids.
In the Watchtower, God is an incompetent doctor who will resort to amputation when less radical means are available to him.
As for your quotation.
I agree. And I'm content to let anyone reading this exchange judge for themselves which one of us has provided the display of willful ignorance.
""There's rarely anything as sad as being willfully ignorant." Anonymous
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So, I guess you see Society in general fixing their problems and getting better, huh?
Tell someone in Sudan that. Or any of the 1.25 billion people starving right now! Or anyone experiencing injustice.
You don't want God's Kingdom to rule, so be it. You don't like 2 Thessalonians 1:6-9 which, BTW, is the Bible, not "WT theology" that's fine, too. It's gonna be all about attitude, tempered by Jehovah's mercy and love. That's why there's a preaching work going on today. Jehovah knows every detail with everyone, whether they're unaware, willfully unaware, misled, or just stupid. And He and His Son will judge accordingly.
You protest too much. Still, I hope someday you'll gain Jehovah's approval. Even Paul changed.
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Tell someone in Sudan that. Or any of the 1.25 billion people starving right now! Or anyone experiencing injustice.
You don't want God's Kingdom to rule, so be it. You don't like 2 Thessalonians 1:6-9 which, BTW, is the Bible, not "WT theology" that's fine, too. It's gonna be all about attitude, tempered by Jehovah's mercy and love. That's why there's a preaching work going on today. Jehovah knows every detail with everyone, whether they're unaware, willfully unaware, misled, or just stupid. And He and His Son will judge accordingly.
You protest too much. Still, I hope someday you'll gain Jehovah's approval. Even Paul changed.
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This, first. I explained to you twice in the past why I use that term. I suppose I must again. Many will disagree over whether the Bible really teaches what you say it teaches. But there is no disagreement that we are talking here about what the Watchtower teaches. So I will use the term that both of us (and others) agree on, Watchtower teachings.
BTW, is the Bible, not "WT theology"
Not particularly. Trying doesn't guarantee success. (And, from what I said, a thinking person wouldn't draw your inference.)
So, I guess you see Society in general fixing their problems and getting better, huh?
Here's how stupid that conclusion is: It is as if you came to my door and said, "I have good news! Next Monday, for five minutes, it will rain dollar bills in your yard!" And then when I answer, "That makes no sense, so I don't believe you", then you respond with, "Sounds like you don't want the money". See the stupidity?
You don't want God's Kingdom to rule
Does the WT feed Jehovah's Witnesses this stupid notion that people who reject their message do so because they "don't want God's Kingdom to rule"? Are JWs fed this notion to keep them from considering the REAL reasons the WT and its message are not to be trusted?
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keep them from considering the REAL reasons the WT and its message are not to be trusted?
Lol.
Matthew 7:21, ".the one doing the will of my Father." Who is Jesus' Father? And what is His will? Where can you learn about Him and His will? I know, and so do about 8,000,000 others. About 5,000 every week begin 'walking with Jehovah' (Micah 6:8), and doing His will by preaching to others.
The "REAL reasons"? We love Jehovah, we love people. And the message we offer brings comfort to them, and strengthens faith in God and His Word.
I hope you "live long and prosper."
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It's really striking how often you point to JW numbers, as if you really believe that it's some kind of evidence that the Watchtower is the true religion, and as if there isn't a long list of religions and cults making similar claims of increasing membership.
I know, and so do about 8,000,000 others. About 5,000 every week begin 'walking with Jehovah' (Micah 6:8), and doing His will by preaching to others.
One would think that the understanding that increasing numbers can never be evidence of truth should be ESPECIALLY CLEAR to members of a church that teaches that Satan is omnipresent and trying to mislead all those he can.
But you don't understand any of that. You constantly point to Watchtower numbers as if it's evidence that they're right.
Have you forsaken any attempt at basic reading comprehension? I didn't say the "REAL reasons" that JWs go door to door. I said, "the REAL reasons the WT and its message are not to be trusted".
The "REAL reasons"? We love Jehovah, we love people.
Maybe you deliberately misapplied my words. "The real reasons the WT and its message are not to be trusted" is not a topic you want to see explored.
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I don't think you want to explore them. It's Jesus' sayings that can help a person discover the truth and who has it. You think Jesus' vitally important statement, "doing the will of my Father," is ambiguous? That it's some cryptic message? It's very clear, when you examine what the Scriptures reveal about him, his work, and what Jehovah desires for people (for them to learn about Him and change). It requires preaching to others. And of course those who are preaching, are also generally 'keeping themselves without spot from the world.' James 1:27. (We certainly don't get involved in killing our brothers, or even our enemies [which you always seem to laugh off, although Jesus had a reason for saying what he did at John 13:34,35].)
Prove me wrong. To do that, you'd have to attack the veracity of the Scriptures. I don't think you believe the Bible is God's Word, anyways, so we're at an impasse there.
No more replies are coming from me. It's been. interesting. Have a good life.
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Prove me wrong. To do that, you'd have to attack the veracity of the Scriptures. I don't think you believe the Bible is God's Word, anyways, so we're at an impasse there.
No more replies are coming from me. It's been. interesting. Have a good life.
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First you try to change what I said about "REAL reasons" and misapply my words to suit yourself, and now you immediately try to do it again with something else I just said. I said, "The real reasons the WT and its message are not to be trusted is not a topic you want to see explored".
I don't think you want to explore them. It's Jesus' sayings that can help a person discover the truth and who has it.
How that's put into action is open to interpretation, and there is not a Christian church anywhere that, just like the Watchtower, isn't prepared to make their own case on how they fulfill that scripture.
You think Jesus' vitally important statement, "doing the will of my Father," is ambiguous?
You brought that up not long ago. Then I pointed out that there are other Christians who would consider Jehovah's Witnesses as "worldly", and that JWs keep apart from the world to the extent that their leaders tell them to, just as other Christians follow their leaders' directions.
generally 'keeping themselves without spot from the world.'
You never answered me. Same pattern from your first post on this thread: ignore, change subject, repeat.
No one has to "attack the veracity of the Scriptures" to show that the Watchtower organization is untrustworthy. Over time, numerous examples have been seen on this board. (And other posters have noted how you evade and head for the hills.)
Prove me wrong. To do that, you'd have to attack the veracity of the Scriptures.
I have never laughed off your claim. On the contrary, I have said that the WT has no thought out position about killing that can withstand questioning, and that their prohibition on joining the military is only a means of maintaining exclusive loyalty among their members.
(We certainly don't get involved in killing our brothers, or even our enemies [which you always seem to laugh off
You have ignored questions on this before. But if you think you're ready to answer them now, just say so.
The Bad Samaritan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Strohmeyer#David_Cash
It's amazing what some people do.